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05-20-2013 06:32 PM
tallzdatank I got it, it just goes to show that if it doesn't move you need a bigger hammer. got the new parts on, no noise! and I put on discos while I was there.
05-20-2013 03:30 PM
tallzdatank ok so I took one more look, the sway bar links are worn out pretty bad, got new ones but having trouble getting the stud out of the sway bar. ive got it soaking at the moment with pb blaster but it just wont budge, tried pounding on the swaybar where the stud goes through, its just not moving.
05-19-2013 02:34 PM
tallzdatank it wont make the noise unless I'm rolling everything looks ok as far as I can tell, but I cant see it when its making the noise, I'll take it in this week and let somebody look at it.
05-19-2013 02:30 PM
Jerry Bransford It is doubtful the steering damper is responsible for that noise. I'd have a helper turn the steering wheel back & forth while you look at the front-end to see what is making the noise or moving in a way you can tell it shouldn't. Tires on the ground. Remember the drag link and tie rod are both mounted on ball joints so they are supposed to be able to rotate but there should be no side-to-side movement.
05-19-2013 02:26 PM
tallzdatank nice, well mine didn't come with one. oh well. I put the old one on, jeep is still making the noise. turning hard right and going over a bump. any ideas?
05-19-2013 01:59 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by tallzdatank View Post
it popped outta the drag link no problem but not the stabilizer
You mean you are trying to get the stud out of the stabilizer itself? The stabilizer's stud doesn't come out, it is permanently attached. Use the tapered replacement stud that comes in stabilizer kits made for Wranglers.
05-19-2013 01:32 PM
tallzdatank it popped outta the drag link no problem but not the stabilizer
05-19-2013 12:07 PM
Jerry Bransford That bolt has a tapered fit & it is tight. Do NOT (!) try to get the bolt out by smacking on the end with the threads, that will just prove to be frustrating as that method usually never works. Not to mention it can deform the steel stud & make it an even tighter fit.

The time honored way to get tapered studs out is by using an extra-heavy hammer like a small sledgehammer to smack it HARD on the SIDE of the drag link next to where the stud passes through it. That WILL cause it to pop out if you do it right and use enough force (one hand is enough) when you smack it.

This photo shows that same technique being used to release the tie rod end's tapered stud from the same type of joint. I can use this method to remove the entire steering system within just a few minutes. If you can't make it happen, you're just not hitting it squarely with the amount of force needed. Or you're not holding your tongue right.
05-19-2013 11:49 AM
tallzdatank any help? ive got everything else put together and set just need to get the new stabilizer on.
05-19-2013 10:57 AM
tallzdatank ok got the stabilizer off the drag link, how do you get the bolt out? its flat on the back side of the stabilizer and got a tapered bolt on the front.
05-19-2013 10:41 AM
jeepers29 Jerry gave me this hint a few weeks ago. BFH on the wide part of drag link where the bolt goes thru. Took me about 1 minute of banging, then it just fell out. Works like a charm.
05-19-2013 10:36 AM
tallzdatank any ideas on how to get the steering stabilizer off the drag link? ive got everything off the jeep and need the bolt from the old stabilizer to put the new one on.
05-14-2013 04:19 PM
tallzdatank sweet, thanks man.
05-13-2013 06:50 PM
Jerry Bransford Set the toe-in first, then set the length of the drag link so the steering wheel is centered. Tires on the ground for the toe-in. Piece of cake.
05-13-2013 06:15 PM
tallzdatank got my parts today wont get to install them till Friday, if all goes well the toughest part is resetting the toe in right? ive replaced drag links, tie rods, and backend pinion systems before, but never drag link tie rod and stabilizer all at once.
05-05-2013 05:56 PM
tallzdatank thanks jerry. i appreciate it. ill drive it easy for the week. i just ordered a crown automotive full steering replacement kit. it was less than even oriellys wanted for the one piece. and i get a drag link, tie rod, steering stabilizer and new tie rod ends with all the hardware. i know crown isnt the best brand, but when i told my fiance about the problem she got worried and just went online and found it and bought it for me. gotta love the lady! i really appreciate your help in this Jerry.
also i know im going to have to do an alignment on it afterward, but im getting the tires rotated next week i think ill just have them do it while its in there, as long as i can get it close enough to drive, and i think i can.
05-05-2013 05:44 PM
Jerry Bransford It's hard to say if it is bent so badly it can't be driven, that's a judgement call. Odds are that it'd be ok temporarily until you can replace it. Few (if any) of the auto parts stores call that part a drag link, I think it's probably going to be called the right outer.

Rock Auto at www.rockauto.com has them for anywhere between $35 and $106 in the steering area of the Wrangler section.
05-05-2013 05:16 PM
tallzdatank could really use some advice on this one guys, will i destroy it trying to drive to work? can i use a cherokee's drag link? why does orielly auto not have a listing for a drag link? they call this piece a tie rod end for the right side outer.
05-05-2013 04:41 PM
tallzdatank
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http://m.4wd.com/newui/search.aspx?sku=CURCE-9701DL

how bout that? its the Currie for less than O'Reilly! still a shot to the wallet, but its gotta be fixed. thanks Jerry as always. now my final question is can I still drive it, if I'm slow and easy, for 2 weeks until my next payday? or should I keep it parked until its fixed? its my dd so I would really love to hear I can, but if its not safe I'd rather leave my baby parked at home.
nevermind I didn't read the fine print, that one only works with the Currie kit. however I do know of a 95 Cherokee in the salvage yard here, is its drag link the same? it wasn't wrecked, it had some engine problems that the owner didn't fix.so as far as I know its still good and I could get it for a song I think.
05-05-2013 04:17 PM
tallzdatank http://m.4wd.com/newui/search.aspx?sku=CURCE-9701DL

how bout that? its the Currie for less than O'Reilly! still a shot to the wallet, but its gotta be fixed. thanks Jerry as always. now my final question is can I still drive it, if I'm slow and easy, for 2 weeks until my next payday? or should I keep it parked until its fixed? its my dd so I would really love to hear I can, but if its not safe I'd rather leave my baby parked at home.
05-05-2013 04:11 PM
Jerry Bransford I'm betting placing a Drag Link Wanted ad in the parts-wanted classifieds in the various Jeep forums would quickly find someone who upgraded their steering willing to sell their old drag link. A PM to Black Magic Brakes (Blaine) would probably find a used one.
05-05-2013 04:06 PM
tallzdatank ok, I'd love to get one of those, but I'm afraid it is a bit out of my price range. is this the part I'm looking for though? O'Reilly has it listed as the right side tie rod end. but in the picture the bar looks bent too.
05-05-2013 03:56 PM
Jerry Bransford That bend isn't something you want to fix with a press since that kind of a bend has weakened it. What bent is actually the drag link, not the tie rod, the tie-rod is what bolts to it.

If it were me, I'd get a Currie steering kit which includes the drag link & tie rod as a unit. Gerald Lee at Savvy Offroad sells them at a discount.

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Originally Posted by tallzdatank View Post
also I reached up to see if it was loose or anything and I can wiggle it with my hand on the ball joints. I think thats where the noise is coming from mostly.
Rotational play around the ball joints is normal and required. What isn't normal is if they can be moved side-to-side.
05-05-2013 03:53 PM
tallzdatank also I reached up to see if it was loose or anything and I can wiggle it with my hand on the ball joints. I think thats where the noise is coming from mostly.
05-05-2013 03:44 PM
tallzdatank great, so would that likely be the cause of such a noise? ive never bent a tie rod before. also whats a good place to get a quality one going to be? unless it could be straightened on a press or something.
05-05-2013 03:40 PM
Jerry Bransford Yep that looks bent to me. This is how the tie rod should look like, pay no attention to the broken axle stub shaft ear.
05-05-2013 03:20 PM
tallzdatank
may have bent something, not sure.

so I was out wheeling this morning and came over a bump, nothing large but a noticeable bump and heard a thud sound after reaching the other side. I got out, looked underneath and didn't see anything out of place or broken at first so i just started driving home. on the way I heard the sound again, on larger bumps, especially when turning. it seemes like either left or right will make the noise but only on a bump. I got home and looked again much more closely and noticed a bent tie rod. I have known some cars to have a bend in them from the factory, and I'm not sure if the tj is one of them.
I hope these pictures help, can you guys tell me if it looks bent? passenger side.

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