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Today 01:13 PM
HDgasser
Quote:
Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Damn yeah I'm not all about going fast thru extremely rough terrain, I live that to the Baja guys
Funny you say that... The guy driving this car is the same guy that drives the FJ.

Baja is the SHIT!!!

Today 01:12 PM
Gunner My first trail and not my last tug.
Today 12:41 PM
calijudo
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Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
If your going to use it as a DD then 35's should be ok on nice easy trails. Twice a year on soft trails is not going to be like this crew does. Do you know what gears you have in there now?
This is what they think a soft trail is like.
Whoa. Lol yea you guys are on another level. I have 4.10 gears. Yea if I could go a while without regearing that'd be nice.
Today 12:37 PM
Moabrubi
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Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
Miller was my first trail in my little 2.5 YJ in 31's and no lockers. 1 inch lift and a stick. It was a lot tougher than in the TJ Rubi auto on 4.88's and 35's the next year. I love that we are getting all techy here. Lots of ideas floating around.
My first trail in my Jeep was up in the White Mtns in the Sierra's. I was so nervous on some of those trails that I laugh at now. I did lots of wheeling in a Rhino before but it's totally different.
Today 12:33 PM
Gunner
Quote:
Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Lol no gunner I feel like miller is a soft trail, calico is moderate to difficult
Miller was my first trail in my little 2.5 YJ in 31's and no lockers. 1 inch lift and a stick. It was a lot tougher than in the TJ Rubi auto on 4.88's and 35's the next year. I love that we are getting all techy here. Lots of ideas floating around.
Today 12:29 PM
Gunner LOL you haven't filled out your Garage info so we can just look and see what you have for equipment.
Today 12:28 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
If your going to use it as a DD then 35's should be ok on nice easy trails. Twice a year on soft trails is not going to be like this crew does. Do you know what gears you have in there now? This is what they think a soft trail is like.

Lol no gunner I feel like miller is a soft trail, calico is moderate to difficult
Today 12:27 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by calijudo View Post
Whats special about the rubi spare? My jeep has the mt bfgs. So I'm thinkin of leaving the spare for now and just gettin 4 33s same tire.
I didn't know if it was a rubicon that's all
Today 12:23 PM
calijudo
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post

Yeah the rubicon spare was why I raised the question lol
Whats special about the rubi spare? My jeep has the mt bfgs. So I'm thinkin of leaving the spare for now and just gettin 4 33s same tire.
Today 12:22 PM
Gunner If your going to use it as a DD then 35's should be ok on nice easy trails. Twice a year on soft trails is not going to be like this crew does. Do you know what gears you have in there now?
This is what they think a soft trail is like.
Today 12:19 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by HDgasser View Post
My buddy in his coilover'd FJ that was following me didn't come out so well either! He thought he knocked his alignment outta wack, and once he took to to our friends shop to get it aligned he found that he bent every control arm mount under the damn thing and is maxed out on all adjustments and barely got his alignment in the green lolol.
Damn yeah I'm not all about going fast thru extremely rough terrain, I live that to the Baja guys
Today 12:18 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by calijudo View Post
No I have a sahara. I wont be doing heavy rock stuff. But 35s still sound like a dark path unless I reinforce some stuff. So I will get 33s maaaybe lookin into 34s. Thanks man. I can't wait to get outa bed and look at my jeep in the light
Yeah the rubicon spare was why I raised the question lol
Today 12:10 PM
calijudo
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post

That's good advise from Joe. Human thrower is yours a rubicon? Only asking because the spare tire. The front D44 can handle 35s, some people have broken stock shafts when they were going through some extremely technical sections. They actually use the same size axle joints as the d30.

Normally the larger the tire and less back spacing plays hell on the flanges of JK rear axles. Not many people warranty the flanges either. I believe it's on 10 factory and RCV that do, I could be wrong though.
No I have a sahara. I wont be doing heavy rock stuff. But 35s still sound like a dark path unless I reinforce some stuff. So I will get 33s maaaybe lookin into 34s. Thanks man. I can't wait to get outa bed and look at my jeep in the light
Today 12:06 PM
calijudo
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Originally Posted by JoeBot13 View Post

Heck yeah that's awesome ... And dedication for staying up til 4am!

Do 35s cause problems? Depends on who you ask...

Some people say you can get away with 35s for a long time ... Some people say you'll snap an axle the first time out

My 2 cents; this is entirely subjectable:

If you plan on upgrading tires look at upgrading ball joints.

The higher ratio you have (lower the number) the more the engine will have to work to push those 35s. 3.8 with auto is the weakest combo power wise. If you have 3.21 or 3.73 you may not be seeing O/D or 5th gear for a while, but who cares about those anyways. The lowest you can go with a D30 is 4.88 and there is a carrier break at 3.73.

When it's comes a D30 the 35s on JKU, this is a double edged sword. The JKs hp D30 is stronger than older D30s, but it still has it's weaknesses. The taller tires improve clearance and breakover but the added unsprung weight and tire radius puts stress on the axle tubes, c gussets, and shafts. You may not break anything, but the possibility increases the bigger you go. The heavier you wheel, the more your risk of breakage increases. But that is true no matter if you drive, a baja bug or a tank. If you plan on keeping your D30 for a while you can sleeve, gusset, truss and get chromo shafts (more splines/more strength) to make a so called super 30.

Believe it or not lockers can play a factor in breakage on weaker axles and is a double edged sword again. Locked axles may build up axle wrap, and axle wrap is your enemy. If you have weak shafts and lockers, torque can build up if the wheels can't spin and will have to release the energy somewhere. Usually with a snap. Conversely lockers limit wheel spin, on open axles the torque is transferred to the free wheel, so if you have a lot of wheel spin on a wheel and that wheel contacts something solid, all that energy will be transferred and snap!

A lot of these issues can be avoided by smart wheeling. Easy on the skinny pedal and don't bite off more than you can chew until you learn the limits of your rig. That case 35s can last a while before causing problems.

Thanks for reading this far... And if one thing I say is true without argument, it's:

If you want 35s, that is the only justification you need to get them.
Thanks for writing this far haha. I only like doing dirt trails. And thats maybe twice a year because of my work. :/ . So basically I won't be pushing my jeep hard. BUT it sounds like a lot more money comes with 35s. And if I should reinforce the c gussets and other stuff, and im sure I cant go too long without changing my gears because of my 3.6 auto. I will go with 33s or maybe even 34s just so I can get away with a lil more. And I'd like to wait a couple months to change the fears after I change the tires. I've seen 33s and they look fine. But the idea of big tires sounds nice for the look but I can settle with 33s. Again thanks for your input. I dont know what I would have done if I didnt join this forum.
Today 11:22 AM
HDgasser
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
You know that tends to do it lol
My buddy in his coilover'd FJ that was following me didn't come out so well either!

He thought he knocked his alignment outta wack, and once he took to to our friends shop to get it aligned he found that he bent every control arm mount under the damn thing and is maxed out on all adjustments and barely got his alignment in the green lolol.
Today 10:58 AM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by HDgasser View Post
Ohhhh ya know... Just messin around! 40-50mph down a rocky whooped out wash that we shoulda been doing like 10mph thru.
You know that tends to do it lol
Today 10:47 AM
HDgasser
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
How did you manage that?
Ohhhh ya know... Just messin around!

40-50mph down a rocky whooped out wash that we shoulda been doing like 10mph thru.
Today 10:37 AM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by HDgasser View Post
I bent my gussted and trussed front 44 on 37's. Rock the stock axle till it bends... And it will, and then buy a pro rock.
How did you manage that?
Today 10:28 AM
HDgasser 10factory warranties bent flanges.

If you plan on ever going bigger than 35's or driving hard with 35's I wouldn't waste your $$$ on building your 30 or even a 44.

I bent my gussted and trussed front 44 on 37's.

Rock the stock axle till it bends... And it will, and then buy a pro rock.
Today 10:25 AM
suicideking Doesn't look like a Rubicon unless he peeled off the decals on the hood.

What year is yours? 3.6 or 3.8? If it's the 3.6 with 3.73 gears then you could get away with just the wheels and re-gear later if you use a Procal or other programmer.

If you're even thinking about 35's, don't get 33's. I got 33's and replaced with 35's in less than a year.

Do the c gussets and you should be fine. If you don't pound on it, the D30 should be ok.
Today 09:47 AM
iwaxmyjimmy
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBot13 View Post
Heck yeah that's awesome ... And dedication for staying up til 4am! Do 35s cause problems? Depends on who you ask... Some people say you can get away with 35s for a long time ... Some people say you'll snap an axle the first time out My 2 cents; this is entirely subjectable: If you plan on upgrading tires look at upgrading ball joints. The higher ratio you have (lower the number) the more the engine will have to work to push those 35s. 3.8 with auto is the weakest combo power wise. If you have 3.21 or 3.73 you may not be seeing O/D or 5th gear for a while, but who cares about those anyways. The lowest you can go with a D30 is 4.88 and there is a carrier break at 3.73. When it's comes a D30 the 35s on JKU, this is a double edged sword. The JKs hp D30 is stronger than older D30s, but it still has it's weaknesses. The taller tires improve clearance and breakover but the added unsprung weight and tire radius puts stress on the axle tubes, c gussets, and shafts. You may not break anything, but the possibility increases the bigger you go. The heavier you wheel, the more your risk of breakage increases. But that is true no matter if you drive, a baja bug or a tank. If you plan on keeping your D30 for a while you can sleeve, gusset, truss and get chromo shafts (more splines/more strength) to make a so called super 30. Believe it or not lockers can play a factor in breakage on weaker axles and is a double edged sword again. Locked axles may build up axle wrap, and axle wrap is your enemy. If you have weak shafts and lockers, torque can build up if the wheels can't spin and will have to release the energy somewhere. Usually with a snap. Conversely lockers limit wheel spin, on open axles the torque is transferred to the free wheel, so if you have a lot of wheel spin on a wheel and that wheel contacts something solid, all that energy will be transferred and snap! A lot of these issues can be avoided by smart wheeling. Easy on the skinny pedal and don't bite off more than you can chew until you learn the limits of your rig. That case 35s can last a while before causing problems. Thanks for reading this far... And if one thing I say is true without argument, it's: If you want 35s, that is the only justification you need to get them.
That's good advise from Joe. Human thrower is yours a rubicon? Only asking because the spare tire. The front D44 can handle 35s, some people have broken stock shafts when they were going through some extremely technical sections. They actually use the same size axle joints as the d30.

Normally the larger the tire and less back spacing plays hell on the flanges of JK rear axles. Not many people warranty the flanges either. I believe it's on 10 factory and RCV that do, I could be wrong though.
Today 09:16 AM
JoeBot13
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Originally Posted by calijudo View Post
Okay its 4am and i'm finally done with the install. I recieved my lift kit from ups at about 6pm last night. I skipped dinner and got super dirty. But I'm happy with my lift. Now I just need my front bumper to arrive. Next step is to save up for tires and gears. I like the idea of 33's without regearing it. But 35's with gears sounds awesome. What do you guys think? Do 35's cause problems?
Heck yeah that's awesome ... And dedication for staying up til 4am!

Do 35s cause problems? Depends on who you ask...

Some people say you can get away with 35s for a long time ... Some people say you'll snap an axle the first time out

My 2 cents; this is entirely subjectable:

If you plan on upgrading tires look at upgrading ball joints.

The higher ratio you have (lower the number) the more the engine will have to work to push those 35s. 3.8 with auto is the weakest combo power wise. If you have 3.21 or 3.73 you may not be seeing O/D or 5th gear for a while, but who cares about those anyways. The lowest you can go with a D30 is 4.88 and there is a carrier break at 3.73.

When it's comes a D30 the 35s on JKU, this is a double edged sword. The JKs hp D30 is stronger than older D30s, but it still has it's weaknesses. The taller tires improve clearance and breakover but the added unsprung weight and tire radius puts stress on the axle tubes, c gussets, and shafts. You may not break anything, but the possibility increases the bigger you go. The heavier you wheel, the more your risk of breakage increases. But that is true no matter if you drive, a baja bug or a tank. If you plan on keeping your D30 for a while you can sleeve, gusset, truss and get chromo shafts (more splines/more strength) to make a so called super 30.

Believe it or not lockers can play a factor in breakage on weaker axles and is a double edged sword again. Locked axles may build up axle wrap, and axle wrap is your enemy. If you have weak shafts and lockers, torque can build up if the wheels can't spin and will have to release the energy somewhere. Usually with a snap. Conversely lockers limit wheel spin, on open axles the torque is transferred to the free wheel, so if you have a lot of wheel spin on a wheel and that wheel contacts something solid, all that energy will be transferred and snap!

A lot of these issues can be avoided by smart wheeling. Easy on the skinny pedal and don't bite off more than you can chew until you learn the limits of your rig. That case 35s can last a while before causing problems.

Thanks for reading this far... And if one thing I say is true without argument, it's:

If you want 35s, that is the only justification you need to get them.
Today 06:17 AM
calijudo Okay its 4am and i'm finally done with the install. I recieved my lift kit from ups at about 6pm last night. I skipped dinner and got super dirty. But I'm happy with my lift. Now I just need my front bumper to arrive. Next step is to save up for tires and gears. I like the idea of 33's without regearing it. But 35's with gears sounds awesome. What do you guys think? Do 35's cause problems?

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Today 01:23 AM
suicideking
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Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
I have a used older RK single rate springs and RK 2.0 shocks. It is lots rougher on the road than stock but I can blast the whoops way better than I use to. Don't know what it flexes because it is just the get it lifted kit while I am deciding what I want to do to it next. Seems to work adequately for now. I really just don't know what I want this jeep to do. The TJ was so much easier to figure. Rocks. But this thing is really hard for me to get a handle on. For cruising the trails and mild rocks it works fine as is. But if I want to really do some serious rocks then I do need to step it up.
Looking at your profile, maybe do the front bumper and a winch next. Diff covers if you don't already have them yet.
Today 01:06 AM
Gunner I have a used older RK single rate springs and RK 2.0 shocks. It is lots rougher on the road than stock but I can blast the whoops way better than I use to. Don't know what it flexes because it is just the get it lifted kit while I am deciding what I want to do to it next. Seems to work adequately for now. I really just don't know what I want this jeep to do. The TJ was so much easier to figure. Rocks. But this thing is really hard for me to get a handle on. For cruising the trails and mild rocks it works fine as is. But if I want to really do some serious rocks then I do need to step it up.
Today 12:57 AM
Gunner I got tired of filling the tank. It was so fast but then I always wanted to help those without air and I ended up needing a refill every run. My OBA is a lot slower but it works and I can fill my tires in about 7 or 8 minutes. My buddy has one of those 4000 psi carbon fiber scuba tanks and he fills it at his fire station. He takes less than a minute for a 35.
Today 12:37 AM
Lab Lover
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
I havent been to Pismo in years.. all I remember about that place is people taking their cars and getting stuck everywhere.
There are still dumb people that think a Honda should be down there in the soft sand, that will never end. In high school we would go down there and pull them out for beer, haha. Shhh.....I don't think my dad knew that's what I was doing with his Scout
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
Im getting kinda tired of having to fill the CO2. I can never make it there during the week and they are closed on the weekends. An OBA is just so much better.
The place that I have ours filled is right by the grocery store I go to, it's very convenient for Mike since I drop it off when I go shopping and pick it up when I'm done
Yesterday 11:31 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
Im getting kinda tired of having to fill the CO2. I can never make it there during the week and they are closed on the weekends. An OBA is just so much better.
I'm just out here in the middle of no where lol I could build a whole York OBA cheaper than buying a pump that would do half as good lol
Yesterday 11:10 PM
Moabrubi
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post

Same here dude.
Im getting kinda tired of having to fill the CO2. I can never make it there during the week and they are closed on the weekends. An OBA is just so much better.
Yesterday 10:58 PM
Ditchdoc
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
I still need to go and pick up a York.
I will jeep a eye out for them. I will let you guys know what I find.
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