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09-02-2013 10:37 PM
BacaraJKU Well, mine is now beautifully mounted under my passenger seat. I posted a full update on my build thread.

I just didn't see how this would fit under the dash and me not being really, really pissed off after a full day of trying to figure it out.
09-02-2013 09:36 PM
keepitsimple any updates?

dimensions of the factory amp?
08-21-2013 10:23 AM
BacaraJKU I'm going custom if no one responds on here to my wanted thread.


I called junk yards all over US that posts which parts they have in stock and they won't sell without amp either.
08-21-2013 09:35 AM
derf
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Originally Posted by BacaraJKU View Post
I was looking to get factory enclosure for an 8" sub, but have been looking at sundown SA series which runs at 500rms. Problem is, 1st not sure if it would fit and 2nd I haven't found a good price on factory sub enclosure.

I'll post my findings on mounting with pics. I want under dash, but gonna call a few junk yards tomorrow to see if I can get just amp bracket.
I talked to the dealer about getting the amp bracket. They only sell it with the amp and they want over $300 for it.

Living in the middle of nowhere means there isn't much in the junk yards to choose from. I may just go ahead and fabricate a bracket myself.
08-19-2013 10:12 PM
BacaraJKU I was looking to get factory enclosure for an 8" sub, but have been looking at sundown SA series which runs at 500rms. Problem is, 1st not sure if it would fit and 2nd I haven't found a good price on factory sub enclosure.

I'll post my findings on mounting with pics. I want under dash, but gonna call a few junk yards tomorrow to see if I can get just amp bracket.
08-19-2013 10:53 AM
derf
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Originally Posted by BacaraJKU View Post
In case anyone is watching this thread, I pulled trigger on PDX-V9 and will provide an update on install once it arrives. Not sure if I'm going under seat or under dash at this point, it will be easier to plan once I have it in hand.
I've been considering my options and I may just go ahead and get one of these rather than the Clarion that I was going to use.

I ended up getting a factory sub enclosure so I'll be dropping in a mild sub in that instead of using a compact powered sub under the seat. So now I need a sub amp and dropping a PDX-V9 into the factory amp location has quite a bit of appeal.

Get good pictures of the install if you can when you do the write up.
08-18-2013 08:32 PM
BacaraJKU In case anyone is watching this thread, I pulled trigger on PDX-V9 and will provide an update on install once it arrives. Not sure if I'm going under seat or under dash at this point, it will be easier to plan once I have it in hand.
07-22-2013 04:26 PM
Reddog1
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Originally Posted by woansleftpeg View Post
Right, but you'll get that from an amp costing a third as much. Where you'll notice the difference with a top end amp like the Pioneer is in its ability to get the best clarity out of expensive speakers at high volumes - but you'll not notice that when you have 75mph wind going past your ears.

The Pioneer is a really good bit of kit and you're going to get terrific sound from it if you tie it to the right speakers, but I think it's overkill for what you're trying to achieve. Power is achievable pretty cheaply, you pay the premium for a refinement that you just won't notice in a Jeep, IMO.
I can't agree more. Spend your big money on protection and performance for your Jeep. Audio,which is important to me as well, would not get top dollar. $100 for a class d kenwood 1000w amp all day. I go to the beach alot and after one year you can see what salt air, humidity, and rain can do to electronics.
I went with poly speakers(polk) poly subs(sony explode) I will spend money on a good head unit.
07-22-2013 03:59 PM
yarddog Not sure if this will help but I replaced factory head unit w/ aftermarket one. I ran an Alpine power pack (4x45w) for the front and soundbar speakers. The power pack isn't bad and is really small and will fit just about anywhere. You can tap factory power and ground which simplifies install.
You can retain steering wheel controls with Axxess unit ($50) that worked just fine for me.
07-22-2013 03:03 PM
Weebz1 I have been reading on ton on amps and upgrading and now have finally gotten myself confused. I am looking at various amps but confused now as to whether I can replace the existing amp and still maintain functionality on the steering wheel and provide input controls. I have read where i have to pull off the existing amp to the new amp and I have seen people say you can just by-pass. Any real world answers?
06-30-2013 04:24 PM
mjf23
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Originally Posted by ccoston View Post
I just ordered a Soundstream Picasso Nano 5.540 amp today after finding that the Sony I ordered new from Ebay was DOA. I was in a trusted car audio shop having them double-check the amp just for peace of mind and saw this one. It is TINY. 9.25"x4.75"x1.5". Puts out 50x4 and 170x1 at 4ohms.

Soundstream - Amplifiers - Picasso

How'd the install go?
05-16-2013 06:39 PM
ccoston I just ordered a Soundstream Picasso Nano 5.540 amp today after finding that the Sony I ordered new from Ebay was DOA. I was in a trusted car audio shop having them double-check the amp just for peace of mind and saw this one. It is TINY. 9.25"x4.75"x1.5". Puts out 50x4 and 170x1 at 4ohms.

Soundstream - Amplifiers - Picasso
05-16-2013 05:38 PM
10Anvil I have the alpine speakers and sub available from a 2013 JKU with the stock. Already sold the HU. Make some offers. I have an ad in the FS section.
05-16-2013 01:30 PM
woansleftpeg
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Originally Posted by panthermark View Post
The "real" specs are no where near that. I emailed Chrysler about them. If I remember correctly, it is a 6 channel, 270 watt amp...peak...at 2 ohms.
Infinity or Alpine? I'm sure the one I took out was eight channels (two sub, two soundbar, two dash, two tweeter).

Same wattage per channel though. 276/6 and 368/8 = 46W per channel.
05-16-2013 01:24 PM
panthermark
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Originally Posted by woansleftpeg View Post
8 channel / 368W total.

The "music being played through a plastic barrel" filter applies across all channels, comes at no extra charge and can not be removed.
The "real" specs are no where near that. I emailed Chrysler about them. If I remember correctly, it is a 6 channel, 270 watt amp...peak...at 2 ohms.
05-16-2013 01:19 PM
Jlho1980 shafted.
Looking into upgrades (HU & speakers (sound bar for now)) and dont want to have to upgrade the amp also.
05-16-2013 12:42 PM
woansleftpeg
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Originally Posted by Jlho1980 View Post
what are the specs on the factory amp in the '13 Rubi with the Alpine system and sub?
8 channel / 368W total.

The "music being played through a plastic barrel" filter applies across all channels, comes at no extra charge and can not be removed.
05-16-2013 12:37 PM
Jlho1980 what are the specs on the factory amp in the '13 Rubi with the Alpine system and sub?
05-07-2013 04:03 PM
woansleftpeg Yeah, the MRX-V70 as mentioned earlier in the thread is a couple of hundred bucks cheaper and probably just as good for the job at hand. Bacara's point about the plug connectors is a very good one; working inside the footwell is a bitch of a job, so if you can use plugs rather than screw down connectors that will make life a little easier (although I wouldn't make that a critical factor if you're planning to install and forget).
05-07-2013 03:20 PM
BacaraJKU
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyMike View Post
Do you have a suggestion for a cheaper alternative that will fit in the stock slot and run everything? I'm willing to pay extra to not have it under my seat where it's going to get wet or kicked by my kids feet in the back. That sounds like a recipe for continually fixing something. Sound matters, but not that much.

I'm going for good enough sound that can be loud without distortion and ultra clean on the install. I've even considered no amp and run off the new HU I get, but worried it's not going to be loud enough for occasional uses that Bacara mentions.
I would just use these dimensions and see what is comparable. Maybe the cheaper Alpine MRX series might fit as well. It uses the same D class and other features of PDX.

Dimensions
Heat Sink (WxHxD) mm: 257mm x 192mm x 50.8mm
Heat Sink (WxHxD) in: 10-1/8'' x 7-9/16'' x 2''
05-07-2013 03:17 PM
derf
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Originally Posted by woansleftpeg View Post
You can get it for more like $500 on Amazon, but it's still a lot of money for an amp to go in a vehicle with acoustics like a Jeep.
It is, but if someone else wants to spend that much on their own Jeep, more power to them. Sounds like the OP likes that solution so it's good he found something that will work for him.

I'm old enough I don't need stupid loud but I would like to be able to turn up the stereo loud enough to hear at 75 without the system clipping like a mother.

I figure the Clarion amp I posted above driving some Polk 6501 components in the dash and 651s full range in the sound bar will be fine for me. I'm going to give the Kenwood KSC-SW11 a shot at filling in the low end with a package that should fit under the seat without shaking me out of the Jeep.

Besides, I'll be able to power both with an 8GA cable without pushing it at all. Between the amp and the powered sub it looks like they draw a total of less than 30A.
05-07-2013 03:16 PM
BacaraJKU
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyMike View Post
The PDX looks great. I think I'll go that route. On Amazon, one of the reviewers (Draketh) says he put his in the dash of a 2008 JKU and worked great.
I just think the PDX makes sense if you have the coin. Key factors for me are:

- Size for a 5ch Amp (all PDX's are the same size)
- Power Rating and associated features of internal electronics (i.e. 2/4Ohm same power output)
- Low heat
- Quick Connects (huge benefit when looking at this mounting location)

I'll admit I'm a little biased towards Alpine, but seems like a good combo of features for the price.
05-07-2013 03:15 PM
WhiskeyMike
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Originally Posted by woansleftpeg View Post
The Pioneer is a really good bit of kit and you're going to get terrific sound from it if you tie it to the right speakers, but I think it's overkill for what you're trying to achieve. Power is achievable pretty cheaply, you pay the premium for a refinement that you just won't notice in a Jeep, IMO.
Do you have a suggestion for a cheaper alternative that will fit in the stock slot and run everything? I'm willing to pay extra to not have it under my seat where it's going to get wet or kicked by my kids feet in the back. That sounds like a recipe for continually fixing something. Sound matters, but not that much.

I'm going for good enough sound that can be loud without distortion and ultra clean on the install. I've even considered no amp and run off the new HU I get, but worried it's not going to be loud enough for occasional uses that Bacara mentions.
05-07-2013 03:01 PM
WhiskeyMike The PDX looks great. I think I'll go that route. On Amazon, one of the reviewers (Draketh) says he put his in the dash of a 2008 JKU and worked great.
05-07-2013 02:43 PM
woansleftpeg
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Originally Posted by BacaraJKU View Post
Acoustics like a jeep is what is driving me to push for something better. I want something that I can turn up without sounding like crap when I'm cruising down the interstate at 75 with the top off. Or memorial day weekend at the beach in mexico with the tunes cranked up offroading through the dunes.
Right, but you'll get that from an amp costing a third as much. Where you'll notice the difference with a top end amp like the Pioneer is in its ability to get the best clarity out of expensive speakers at high volumes - but you'll not notice that when you have 75mph wind going past your ears.

The Pioneer is a really good bit of kit and you're going to get terrific sound from it if you tie it to the right speakers, but I think it's overkill for what you're trying to achieve. Power is achievable pretty cheaply, you pay the premium for a refinement that you just won't notice in a Jeep, IMO.
05-07-2013 02:36 PM
BacaraJKU
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Originally Posted by woansleftpeg View Post
You can get it for more like $500 on Amazon, but it's still a lot of money for an amp to go in a vehicle with acoustics like a Jeep.
Acoustics like a jeep is what is driving me to push for something better. I want something that I can turn up without sounding like crap when I'm cruising down the interstate at 75 with the top off. Or memorial day weekend at the beach in mexico with the tunes cranked up offroading through the dunes.
05-07-2013 02:30 PM
woansleftpeg
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Originally Posted by derf View Post
Wow. Does that $700 include a reach-around?
You can get it for more like $500 on Amazon, but it's still a lot of money for an amp to go in a vehicle with acoustics like a Jeep.
05-07-2013 02:30 PM
BacaraJKU
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Originally Posted by derf View Post
Wow. Does that $700 include a reach-around?
Try $438 on Amazon or cheaper I'm sure elsewhere. If you research the Amp it's fully worth the price.

I'm looking at some subs that are not offered in 4ohm DVC and are only offered in 2ohm DVC, plus the PDX amps push their power regardless of 2 ohm or 4 ohm. Alpine has done some awesome things with this amp that others are not doing. It's a lot more than a number.

Plus 100x4 + 500x1 is the power I'm looking for in a single small amp.
05-07-2013 02:24 PM
derf
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Originally Posted by BacaraJKU View Post
I can't find the post now, but the Alpine PDX Amps fit perfect in the slot. This is the route I'm going for 5ch amp and hopefully address having any heat issues since the Alpines are efficient and run cooler than others I was looking at.

EDIT:

Also with the PDX you solve the big issue of wire hookup since the PDX amps have a plug style hookup. You attach all wires to a plug and then simple plug them into Amp. Seems far easier then trying to tighten screws directly on an amp.

Alpine Electronics of America, Inc.

Found it:

Need amp for 2K8 Jeep Wrangler install. - DIYMA Car Audio Forum
Wow. Does that $700 include a reach-around?
05-07-2013 01:55 PM
BacaraJKU I can't find the post now, but the Alpine PDX Amps fit perfect in the slot. This is the route I'm going for 5ch amp and hopefully address having any heat issues since the Alpines are efficient and run cooler than others I was looking at.

EDIT:

Also with the PDX you solve the big issue of wire hookup since the PDX amps have a plug style hookup. You attach all wires to a plug and then simple plug them into Amp. Seems far easier then trying to tighten screws directly on an amp.

http://www.alpine-usa.com/product/view/pdx-v9/

Found it:

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...r-install.html
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