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04-20-2014 07:26 PM
skippy77 I've gone through a lot of pages in this post and think I've go it but I don't want to miss something, so I would appreciate it if someone could bullet point out which bolts need to be re-torqued at each oil change.

I'm getting my oil changed tomorrow and would like to have the service department do the re-torquing until I'm in a position to do it myself. Thanks!
04-20-2014 05:24 PM
Charlie14
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Originally Posted by dwindeck View Post
No, no kits come with new bolts that I am aware of.
Ok thanks for the heads up!
04-20-2014 05:05 PM
dwindeck No, no kits come with new bolts that I am aware of.
04-20-2014 04:58 PM
Charlie14 Does the 2.5" AEV kit come with these bolts? Just curious because I thought it was a complete kit but not sure if these are included. Lift should be here soon but if it doesn't come with them then I want to order them so they can be installed when the lift goes on.
04-18-2014 10:38 AM
Red Belly
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Originally Posted by Brian6428 View Post
Hey guys, I am looking to order the Grade 8 bolt kit from Northridge soon. I haven't ever worked on my own car before but this looks like a good place to start doing it myself. The issue is that I don't have any tools. Do I have to buy a breaker bar, torque wrench, 21 and 22 mm wrenches and 22mm deep socket? Can I borrow these from any local car parts stores?
Absolutely! Just depending on their availability.
04-18-2014 08:15 AM
Brian6428 Hey guys, I am looking to order the Grade 8 bolt kit from Northridge soon. I haven't ever worked on my own car before but this looks like a good place to start doing it myself. The issue is that I don't have any tools. Do I have to buy a breaker bar, torque wrench, 21 and 22 mm wrenches and 22mm deep socket? Can I borrow these from any local car parts stores?
04-17-2014 09:43 AM
planman
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Originally Posted by Tagg View Post
I got mine from this Ebay ad and had it the next day. Ships same day Priority mail. CHEAPER than Fastenal prices. There are 2 bolt kits listed on EBAY. 2012 and Newer JK and JKU Ebay # 171057141109 $ 58.50 + shipping 8.50 2007-2011 JK and JKU Ebay # 171040320692 $ 50.00 + shipping 8.50
Why in the world would you do that?

The Northridge4x4 bolt kit is under $45, with free shipping if the total order from them is $70 or more.

http://www.northridge4x4.com/shop/nr...k-hardware-kit
04-15-2014 09:02 AM
Tagg I got mine from this Ebay ad and had it the next day. Ships same day Priority mail. CHEAPER than Fastenal prices.

There are 2 bolt kits listed on EBAY.

2012 and Newer JK and JKU
Ebay # 171057141109
$ 58.50 + shipping 8.50

2007-2011 JK and JKU
Ebay # 171040320692
$ 50.00 + shipping 8.50
04-03-2014 11:49 AM
bcsnave I bought mine from Fastenal also...it is the same price as the Northridge...but I have them for this weekend
04-01-2014 04:28 PM
Jancie
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Originally Posted by lando76 View Post
The Northridge kit only supplies the lower Cas and track bar bolts. If you want to do the uppers, Synergy has that kit. I just did my lowers and trackbars a couple days ago. Double check the stock bolts aren't spinning on you. Mine did and I needed a breaker bar to lodge the other side. I'm a big guy and torquing the new bolts to 125 ftlbs was no easy task.

I didn't buy a kit. I bought the bolts and washers, etc. from Fastenal. I just gave them a list per what was on Page 2 of this thread so I am assuming I don't have enough bolts to also do the upper control arms.
04-01-2014 10:15 AM
COStrider http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4d3UgWIPlI&sns=em

Here's the video that shows the difference in factory vs the correct bolt for the application!
04-01-2014 08:24 AM
SilverSahara
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I would not do this ... 125 is a good amount.

Heres a trick. Use a longer breaker bar as a anchor like I did here. Use the ground or anywhere on the frame. Makes solo torquing a lot easier.

FYI... You can put the stands under the axles (same as w/ tires on the ground)
X2 on this. Take your time and double check your work and it'll be fine!
04-01-2014 12:55 AM
lando76 The Northridge kit only supplies the lower Cas and track bar bolts. If you want to do the uppers, Synergy has that kit. I just did my lowers and trackbars a couple days ago. Double check the stock bolts aren't spinning on you. Mine did and I needed a breaker bar to lodge the other side. I'm a big guy and torquing the new bolts to 125 ftlbs was no easy task.
03-31-2014 11:49 PM
Jancie Now I am confused! I bought the bolts per the list provided on page 2 of this thread. I thought at that time I would have the hardware needed to replace the track bar bolts, upper control arms and lower control arms but now looking again at that list - it doesn't specify upper control arms....

This is all rearing its ugly head again because my darling husband has not had the time to perform this task for me and then when he tried this past weekend he couldn't get the original bolts loose so he suggested I take it to our favorite mechanic and see how much he would charge.

So that brings about the question that I am not changing out the upper control arm bolts? Just the lower control arm bolts and the track bar bolts??
03-31-2014 06:13 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by xzy View Post
I appreciate the concern. I'll check them to make sure they're still tight. I have a heavy duty 18" socket wrench. My worry was over torquing not under. Glad I bought Synergy
Almost impossible. Mark your bolts with a paint pen too.
03-31-2014 05:52 PM
xzy
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I would not do this ... 125 is a good amount.

Heres a trick. Use a longer breaker bar as a anchor like I did here. Use the ground or anywhere on the frame. Makes solo torquing a lot easier.

FYI... You can put the stands under the axles (same as w/ tires on the ground)
I appreciate the concern. I'll check them to make sure they're still tight. I have a heavy duty 18" socket wrench. My worry was over torquing not under. Glad I bought Synergy
03-31-2014 04:25 PM
microage97 Same here, but I went with my own bolt kit. One thing you are going to want to change out as well is the crappy, undersized stock shock bolts. My shock slip a bit in the shackle then then rattle and pop / clank after mild wheeling. I believe 9/16 shoulder bolts are in order there.
03-31-2014 04:24 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by xzy View Post
It's not that bad laying on the ground. I didn't use a torque wrench. I tightened them as much as possible and called it good.
I would not do this ... 125 is a good amount.

Heres a trick. Use a longer breaker bar as a anchor like I did here. Use the ground or anywhere on the frame. Makes solo torquing a lot easier.

FYI... You can put the stands under the axles (same as w/ tires on the ground)
03-31-2014 04:15 PM
Wingsnut72 I've had my Synergy Grade 9 Bolt Kit for about a year now. I check them every couple months, and none have slipped out of the torque spec yet. These kits really give you piece of mind while on the trail/street.
03-30-2014 08:19 PM
Gonzos Wrangler
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Originally Posted by clayps View Post
Laying on the ground and torquing the bolts to 125 seems like a heck of a struggle for me personally. Does anyone have any tips on making this easier? *note that I have not attempted this. It just seems like I would end up cursing to no end.

You can use jack stands, just make sure they are holding the axles and not the frame. This will give you more room down there to maneuver.
03-30-2014 07:51 PM
xzy It's not that bad laying on the ground. I didn't use a torque wrench. I tightened them as much as possible and called it good.
03-30-2014 07:42 PM
clayps
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Originally Posted by Rusty204 View Post
So im new to the forum, been following this thread and many of the threads here for awhile before I decided to join. Yes the "DW" is a concern of mine but with also having a back round in engineering (more structural) but I still understand forces and loading, what have you. herrklotz makes a good point, I do not think the factory bold needs to be replaced by a new bolt but does need to be torqued regularly as to not experience the dreaded "DW" A few of my friend have jks 08 to 12, they all torque this bolt after every oil change and have not experienced any "DW" my 2 cents
Laying on the ground and torquing the bolts to 125 seems like a heck of a struggle for me personally. Does anyone have any tips on making this easier? *note that I have not attempted this. It just seems like I would end up cursing to no end.
03-30-2014 07:29 PM
Dwoodworker
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Originally Posted by bengen1 View Post
Thanks good info and picture. I wonder if all bolts under there is 125 ft pounds as recommends for the track bar bolts.
03-27-2014 08:41 AM
tropical36
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Originally Posted by COStrider View Post
Actually your very wrong. Mine were wallowing out at 20,000 miles with very limited off-roading.

I'll try to dig up that video I've posted a number of times.
I haven't actually dismantled anything for inspection, just know that it still drives like always with no ill effects.
03-27-2014 08:24 AM
bengen1
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Originally Posted by Dwoodworker View Post
I have read a few pages of this thread not all and this question may have been answered. I have new 2014 where are these bolts and what torque should they be tightened to? I know its track bar bolts but where are these? What do they look like? Thanks
Here, read some more
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/di...les-78034.html
03-26-2014 07:23 PM
Dwoodworker I have read a few pages of this thread not all and this question may have been answered. I have new 2014 where are these bolts and what torque should they be tightened to? I know its track bar bolts but where are these? What do they look like? Thanks
03-26-2014 06:43 PM
bhoth Great thread, thanks for the heads up! I just ordered a bolt upgrade set from Northridge!
03-26-2014 06:18 PM
COStrider
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Originally Posted by tropical36 View Post
Doubt it seriously, as they only do what's been approved by Chrysler and might even threaten your warranty. I'd do it myself or have it done elsewhere and not tell them. Having said all this, if you're not lifting or otherwise highly modifying your ride or doing a lot of heavy off roading, then I doubt seriously if these bolts will ever give you much trouble anyway. Ours hasn't with over 40K miles to date.
Actually your very wrong. Mine were wallowing out at 20,000 miles with very limited off-roading.

I'll try to dig up that video I've posted a number of times.
03-26-2014 06:14 PM
tropical36
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Originally Posted by Fr8dawg View Post
I think this will be my first mod on my new jeep. Question: would the stealership install these bolts for me?
Doubt it seriously, as they only do what's been approved by Chrysler and might even threaten your warranty. I'd do it myself or have it done elsewhere and not tell them. Having said all this, if you're not lifting or otherwise highly modifying your ride or doing a lot of heavy off roading, then I doubt seriously if these bolts will ever give you much trouble anyway. Ours hasn't with over 40K miles to date.
03-26-2014 05:40 PM
COStrider
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Originally Posted by Fr8dawg View Post
I think this will be my first mod on my new jeep. Question: would the stealership install these bolts for me?
I think you answered your own question when you said "stealership"
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