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Today 02:22 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by JoeBot13 View Post
Wish there was a way to flip the Tie rod with these stupid knuckles ... Can flip the drag link though ... Saw ORO had some sort of bracket to run a straight tie rod that give you an extra inch of clearance but it looks shady and rubs the wheels ... Kenny the more I look at it the more I like the rhd high steer you got cooking ... I wonder if you'd even need to swap knuckles if you ran a tie rod/drag link combo to the to the top side of the stock tie rod mounts ... Should net 3" or more of clearance I'm guessing
Yeah I'm thinking I'm going to flip the tie rod for now and the drag link. Can't swing the knuckle before hi-desert round up. I need to get some tubing and a new 3/4" bit and I'll be in business.

Edit: if you notice the arms stick out different lengths so I don't know if it would result in some weird fubar'd steering or not. Like one knuckle would turn further than the other either tie tierod and drag link going to the same and then the tie rod bolting to the factory but flipped location on the driverside.
Today 02:18 PM
JoeBot13 Wish there was a way to flip the Tie rod with these stupid knuckles ... Can flip the drag link though ... Saw ORO had some sort of bracket to run a straight tie rod that give you an extra inch of clearance but it looks shady and rubs the wheels ...

Kenny the more I look at it the more I like the rhd high steer you got cooking ... I wonder if you'd even need to swap knuckles if you ran a tie rod/drag link combo to the to the top side of the stock tie rod mounts ... Should net 3" or more of clearance I'm guessing
Today 02:04 PM
JoeBot13
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Originally Posted by calijudo View Post
Awesome GUNNER and HDGASSER. Thank you I will be getting 35s
If you plan on mostly DD and some light wheeling here and there, those 35s will probably go a long long time without ruining any stock parts. So if you are on the fence, 35s are the way to go.

If anything wears out over time it will be the ball joints and that is just cuz JK stock BJs suck. (See what I did there?)
Today 02:03 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
My wifes DD is a Hyundai. She won't let me touch it. It is still totally stock. My jeep is our toy. She enjoys getting into the research of the mods too. She is always excited to see what Stan and i have cooked up. But she is glad that she has a place to park and no dirt or grease in the house anymore. She did 25 years of my home engine business and installs in the front yard. I gotta admit I miss the wrenching some but not enough to get back into it.
I won't do it for a living anymore but I'll take on a side project here and there to put more money in the jeep fund
Today 02:02 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by HDgasser View Post
Sounds expensive.... I like it! Also have to remember that this is the wife's DD
Not really just going to cut the frame off just past the motor mounts and build it out if tube and still retain a steering box. Back half the frame just after the factor upper control arm mounts and narrow it some to out board done ORIs.
Today 01:49 PM
Gunner My wifes DD is a Hyundai. She won't let me touch it. It is still totally stock. My jeep is our toy. She enjoys getting into the research of the mods too. She is always excited to see what Stan and i have cooked up. But she is glad that she has a place to park and no dirt or grease in the house anymore. She did 25 years of my home engine business and installs in the front yard. I gotta admit I miss the wrenching some but not enough to get back into it.
Today 01:38 PM
HDgasser
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Well considering im staying in SoCal after I get out, you're gonna like what I have planned for the front and the rear of my frame.
Sounds expensive.... I like it!

Also have to remember that this is the wife's DD
Today 01:23 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by HDgasser View Post
Yeah but I need it to be street legal!! So for now the pro rock 44 and coilovers should hold me over. I hope?
Well considering im staying in SoCal after I get out, you're gonna like what I have planned for the front and the rear of my frame.
Today 01:21 PM
calijudo Awesome GUNNER and HDGASSER. Thank you I will be getting 35s
Today 01:17 PM
HDgasser
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Y'all are better off with built buggies KOH style lol
Yeah but I need it to be street legal!!

So for now the pro rock 44 and coilovers should hold me over.


I hope?
Today 01:15 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by HDgasser View Post
Funny you say that... The guy driving this car is the same guy that drives the FJ. Baja is the SHIT!!!

Y'all are better off with built buggies KOH style lol
Today 01:15 PM
HDgasser
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Originally Posted by calijudo View Post
Whoa. Lol yea you guys are on another level. I have 4.10 gears. Yea if I could go a while without regearing that'd be nice.
4.10's with 33 or 35's should be good

If your gonna gear tho

4.88 for 35's
5.13's for 37's
Today 01:13 PM
Gunner
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Originally Posted by calijudo View Post
Whoa. Lol yea you guys are on another level. I have 4.10 gears. Yea if I could go a while without regearing that'd be nice.
When I first got my JK it had 3.73's and I ran the 35's on it. I thought it was fine.
Today 01:13 PM
HDgasser
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Damn yeah I'm not all about going fast thru extremely rough terrain, I live that to the Baja guys
Funny you say that... The guy driving this car is the same guy that drives the FJ.

Baja is the SHIT!!!

Today 01:12 PM
Gunner My first trail and not my last tug.
Today 12:41 PM
calijudo
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Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
If your going to use it as a DD then 35's should be ok on nice easy trails. Twice a year on soft trails is not going to be like this crew does. Do you know what gears you have in there now?
This is what they think a soft trail is like.
Whoa. Lol yea you guys are on another level. I have 4.10 gears. Yea if I could go a while without regearing that'd be nice.
Today 12:37 PM
Moabrubi
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Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
Miller was my first trail in my little 2.5 YJ in 31's and no lockers. 1 inch lift and a stick. It was a lot tougher than in the TJ Rubi auto on 4.88's and 35's the next year. I love that we are getting all techy here. Lots of ideas floating around.
My first trail in my Jeep was up in the White Mtns in the Sierra's. I was so nervous on some of those trails that I laugh at now. I did lots of wheeling in a Rhino before but it's totally different.
Today 12:33 PM
Gunner
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Lol no gunner I feel like miller is a soft trail, calico is moderate to difficult
Miller was my first trail in my little 2.5 YJ in 31's and no lockers. 1 inch lift and a stick. It was a lot tougher than in the TJ Rubi auto on 4.88's and 35's the next year. I love that we are getting all techy here. Lots of ideas floating around.
Today 12:29 PM
Gunner LOL you haven't filled out your Garage info so we can just look and see what you have for equipment.
Today 12:28 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
If your going to use it as a DD then 35's should be ok on nice easy trails. Twice a year on soft trails is not going to be like this crew does. Do you know what gears you have in there now? This is what they think a soft trail is like.

Lol no gunner I feel like miller is a soft trail, calico is moderate to difficult
Today 12:27 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by calijudo View Post
Whats special about the rubi spare? My jeep has the mt bfgs. So I'm thinkin of leaving the spare for now and just gettin 4 33s same tire.
I didn't know if it was a rubicon that's all
Today 12:23 PM
calijudo
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post

Yeah the rubicon spare was why I raised the question lol
Whats special about the rubi spare? My jeep has the mt bfgs. So I'm thinkin of leaving the spare for now and just gettin 4 33s same tire.
Today 12:22 PM
Gunner If your going to use it as a DD then 35's should be ok on nice easy trails. Twice a year on soft trails is not going to be like this crew does. Do you know what gears you have in there now?
This is what they think a soft trail is like.
Today 12:19 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by HDgasser View Post
My buddy in his coilover'd FJ that was following me didn't come out so well either! He thought he knocked his alignment outta wack, and once he took to to our friends shop to get it aligned he found that he bent every control arm mount under the damn thing and is maxed out on all adjustments and barely got his alignment in the green lolol.
Damn yeah I'm not all about going fast thru extremely rough terrain, I live that to the Baja guys
Today 12:18 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by calijudo View Post
No I have a sahara. I wont be doing heavy rock stuff. But 35s still sound like a dark path unless I reinforce some stuff. So I will get 33s maaaybe lookin into 34s. Thanks man. I can't wait to get outa bed and look at my jeep in the light
Yeah the rubicon spare was why I raised the question lol
Today 12:10 PM
calijudo
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post

That's good advise from Joe. Human thrower is yours a rubicon? Only asking because the spare tire. The front D44 can handle 35s, some people have broken stock shafts when they were going through some extremely technical sections. They actually use the same size axle joints as the d30.

Normally the larger the tire and less back spacing plays hell on the flanges of JK rear axles. Not many people warranty the flanges either. I believe it's on 10 factory and RCV that do, I could be wrong though.
No I have a sahara. I wont be doing heavy rock stuff. But 35s still sound like a dark path unless I reinforce some stuff. So I will get 33s maaaybe lookin into 34s. Thanks man. I can't wait to get outa bed and look at my jeep in the light
Today 12:06 PM
calijudo
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Originally Posted by JoeBot13 View Post

Heck yeah that's awesome ... And dedication for staying up til 4am!

Do 35s cause problems? Depends on who you ask...

Some people say you can get away with 35s for a long time ... Some people say you'll snap an axle the first time out

My 2 cents; this is entirely subjectable:

If you plan on upgrading tires look at upgrading ball joints.

The higher ratio you have (lower the number) the more the engine will have to work to push those 35s. 3.8 with auto is the weakest combo power wise. If you have 3.21 or 3.73 you may not be seeing O/D or 5th gear for a while, but who cares about those anyways. The lowest you can go with a D30 is 4.88 and there is a carrier break at 3.73.

When it's comes a D30 the 35s on JKU, this is a double edged sword. The JKs hp D30 is stronger than older D30s, but it still has it's weaknesses. The taller tires improve clearance and breakover but the added unsprung weight and tire radius puts stress on the axle tubes, c gussets, and shafts. You may not break anything, but the possibility increases the bigger you go. The heavier you wheel, the more your risk of breakage increases. But that is true no matter if you drive, a baja bug or a tank. If you plan on keeping your D30 for a while you can sleeve, gusset, truss and get chromo shafts (more splines/more strength) to make a so called super 30.

Believe it or not lockers can play a factor in breakage on weaker axles and is a double edged sword again. Locked axles may build up axle wrap, and axle wrap is your enemy. If you have weak shafts and lockers, torque can build up if the wheels can't spin and will have to release the energy somewhere. Usually with a snap. Conversely lockers limit wheel spin, on open axles the torque is transferred to the free wheel, so if you have a lot of wheel spin on a wheel and that wheel contacts something solid, all that energy will be transferred and snap!

A lot of these issues can be avoided by smart wheeling. Easy on the skinny pedal and don't bite off more than you can chew until you learn the limits of your rig. That case 35s can last a while before causing problems.

Thanks for reading this far... And if one thing I say is true without argument, it's:

If you want 35s, that is the only justification you need to get them.
Thanks for writing this far haha. I only like doing dirt trails. And thats maybe twice a year because of my work. :/ . So basically I won't be pushing my jeep hard. BUT it sounds like a lot more money comes with 35s. And if I should reinforce the c gussets and other stuff, and im sure I cant go too long without changing my gears because of my 3.6 auto. I will go with 33s or maybe even 34s just so I can get away with a lil more. And I'd like to wait a couple months to change the fears after I change the tires. I've seen 33s and they look fine. But the idea of big tires sounds nice for the look but I can settle with 33s. Again thanks for your input. I dont know what I would have done if I didnt join this forum.
Today 11:22 AM
HDgasser
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
You know that tends to do it lol
My buddy in his coilover'd FJ that was following me didn't come out so well either!

He thought he knocked his alignment outta wack, and once he took to to our friends shop to get it aligned he found that he bent every control arm mount under the damn thing and is maxed out on all adjustments and barely got his alignment in the green lolol.
Today 10:58 AM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by HDgasser View Post
Ohhhh ya know... Just messin around! 40-50mph down a rocky whooped out wash that we shoulda been doing like 10mph thru.
You know that tends to do it lol
Today 10:47 AM
HDgasser
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
How did you manage that?
Ohhhh ya know... Just messin around!

40-50mph down a rocky whooped out wash that we shoulda been doing like 10mph thru.
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