|05-29-2013 05:43 AM|
|bmidd31||I drive 90 round trip a day in my 2013 JKUR and love every mile. I have battled the whole gas mileage thing time and time again. At the end of the day it is not "that " much more and I would rather be driving something I enjoy everyday, just my $.02...|
|05-29-2013 12:33 AM|
|Asphalt Assault||If your questioning it then sell it. You put on a lot of miles. If I did that in a jeep I could part with that much gas money. We will be here if you get a jeep again.|
|05-29-2013 12:25 AM|
Absolutely the way to go! You can't beat VW TDI for torque and fuel economy.
I've been big VW and Jeep fan since I first got my license and usually always owned one or the other (or both at times).
I'd recommend for you depending on your cash flow situation, possibly a VW TDI Jetta or Passat... you can't beat the mileage.
I currently own a 2012 Passat TDI Sport with Tiptronic and I'm still getting around 1000kms/tank in the city and around 1200 on the highway even with the auto.
Even the older TDI's got excellent mileage.. My last TDI before the Passat was an '04 Jetta Sport TDI and it got around 1100kms/tank (manual).
Yes the HP numbers may be lower to a gasser GTI but remember TORQUE is what you feel.. and a 140hp CR TDI 2.0L with Malone Tune will get you 324lbs of torque at the crank and you'll still get 1000kms+ per tank! Can't beat that...
|05-28-2013 10:19 PM|
|JeepGuy94||Thanks everyone for their input! I went out and test drove a couple cars (GTI and the new Jeep compass) and decided to forget about the Focus ST simply because it was too expensive. Im leaning more toward the Compass because of fuel economy and i'm not sacrificing as much space plus I'll still technically be driving a jeep! i'm going to run the numbers some more and whenever I get back home for a weekend I'll drive by my jeep dealership and see what kind of deals they can get me. Again thanks everyone for their advice and I'll let y'all know what happens next!|
|05-13-2013 07:40 AM|
do yourself a favor and run the numbers, just make sure you include everything you can think of. I was thinking about trading my 2010 Rubi I bought used in on a new JK in a year or so (have other bills/priorities first) because I was thinking about things like full doors, hard top, better radio, uconnect (or basic bluetooth connectivity) or maybe go to a 4 door.
Here is the cost I came up with to trade after owning mine 2 years (for about a $25K JK):
new sales tax: $2187.5
new down (assuming I am at break even point): $3000 - this should get me to the same amount financed.
restarting finance charges: $6905.97. High interest rate due to a previous divorce
Total: $12093.47 more if I trade (again mainly due to new interest charges).
So in my scenario, I can pay retail for the items I want and still be less than half the overall cost to trade in. I still will not have the new motor, I will not have a new warranty, or the new interior, but I can have both tops, both OEM door styles (even paying $1K each for doors) either an RBZ AND UCONNECT or a better aftermarket unit, keep my underseat carry boxxes, and still have a Rubi over a Sport.
You may want to think about how much in interest you will be paying over what you have now. I hate throwing away money on gas, but I hate throwing it at a company for starting over again as well.
|05-12-2013 10:13 PM|
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|05-12-2013 08:18 PM|
If value of jeep is = or > than that of fuel efficient car, he will be guaranteed to save money (maintenance, tires, etc.) and for every 10k miles he drives, he can also expect to save $1500 at $4 a gallon.
Hardly the situation you mentioned where nobody ever has saved money... but yes, I do agree with you in principle that he should see if it makes sense for the duration he plans on being in his situation.
|05-12-2013 08:16 PM|
In the end, the decision is up to the OP, but in my experience, stay with the Jeep.
In June of last year I traded my 07 JKUR for a Chevy Volt. When it used gas (I could go weeks at a time with just electric) it would get around 40 mpg. I really liked the car and loved the gas savings. In Feb of this year (7 months later) I was back in a Jeep. I lost a considerable amount of $$ by doing this, but my happiness is worth it.
|05-12-2013 08:15 PM|
Read the whole thing before you say HUH?
At Church this morning the Pastor asked, "if what you are working for, the path that you are on, doesn't make you happy, how can you be happy when you get there?"
I leaned over to my wife and said, "He has a Jeep". She looked back and smiled 'cause we got her one last year, and she does understand. My Jeep makes me happy and for MOST trips that I make it is the PERFECT vehicle for my trip.....you need to decide what is the perfect vehicle for your trip and where you are going...what is the most important part to you the vehicle and how you feel during the trip, or just completeing the trip?
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|05-12-2013 02:26 PM|
Ok, I trade in my M3 for a ford focus. Provided my new loan is less than my current one -- impossible for it not to be -- I'll have less insurance, registration, fuel and maintenance costs. Depending on the JK he has and the cost of the focus, he could easily save money over the life of his loan on the JK.
|05-12-2013 02:21 PM|
While I'm not going to tell you which car to buy - ultimately, that'll be a meeting of the head and heart that'll leave you dissatisfied, as we always are when we choose between what we think we need and what we want - I am going to point something out:
Proper sports cars send power to the rear wheels - RWD or AWD. =) Now, if gas mileage is the end all for you, we're not really talking about a sports car anyway We're talking about a commuter with a "sporty" feel. To that end, the Focus is a very popular commuter car and does a reasonably job of being sporty.
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|05-12-2013 01:51 PM|
ROI is a meaningless measure if you can't pay for costs associated with keeping the current vehicle. As long as the sum of jeep costs is greater per duration of financial constraints than the sum of the car costs, he's better off with the car in the short term while budget is tight.
|05-12-2013 01:37 PM|
If you do the math, you'll probably see your not saving as much as you think. I've done the math before using motorcycles, and it still doesn't come out in favor of more fuel efficient vehicle. You would have to keep new car 5-10 years before you saw a return on your investment.
|05-12-2013 12:57 PM|
In 2008, I leased a brand new VW Jetta based on the strong encouragement of my mother who is gas mileage obsessed. At the time, I drove it 1200 miles to school and 1200 back, but I only did that trip at the beginning/end of the year. How often will you be driving back and forth?? Can't you fly now and then?
I ended up giving the Jetta to my brother a year later because I'd wanted an SUV from the start and I was annoyed that I'd been persuaded against it. I bought my 2006 Grand Cherokee when I was home for summer and was as happy as a clam. My Jetta got 30ish mpg on the highway, whereas my GC got about 18ish on the highway. I didn't care at all because I loved driving my GC.
Fast forward to present day, I have a 2 month old 2013 JK. Again, mama tried to tell me I *need* a fuel efficient vehicle because I drive 30 miles to work, another 10 to class, and I'm always in the car, blah blah blah. I didn't even give her a second listen. I never looked at another vehicle. I wanted a Wrangler and I got a Wrangler. I love it, bad gas mileage and all! I wouldn't have been happier with anything else. You have to get what will make you happy if you spend a lot of time driving.
|05-12-2013 12:33 PM|
|TrueBlueJK||Three letters, TDI.|
|05-12-2013 12:22 PM|
|groovebus||There are three things I never sell; guns, guitars and Jeep Wranglers. The few times I did give them up, it bugged me for years, until I replaced them.|
|05-12-2013 12:09 PM|
I switched job locations when I had my 98 TJ. Commute was 28 miles one way. Loved that Jeep but in the end I traded it in. Not the end of the universe as we know it. You're young and have plenty of time to buy another Jeep. We'll forgive you.
All of our opinions are moot until you get down to brass tacks. Finding out how much $$$ better gas mileage will cost you will probably make your decision for you.
|05-12-2013 11:51 AM|
Try to lemon it... some cars just turn out to be bad apples. Your experience is not typical. Family members have a slew of the new Lincoln, fusion, taurus, F150, and F350 with 0 issues. The C-Car and CD4 platform are great handling and the Ecoboost engines are really good. Interior leaves something to be desired, but then again I'm used to loaded BMWs.
|05-12-2013 11:06 AM|
|sinbob||My wife bought a Focus SFE and it is terrible. She has had it in the shop 4x in the last year. flashed the computer 2x. She is taking back again on Monday. I will say this though when it runs right it gets great MPG....in town 38.2 on the freeway around 42mpg|
|05-12-2013 11:04 AM|
|Wyldeone||From my perspective, I would buy a an old beater Geo Metro or something like that. I've seen them in the $3-4k range. Have it inspected so that you know what you might need to repair. I was looking at the fusion hybrid as a potential daily driver, but I bought a jeep. It gets worse gas mileage and is more expensive to fill than my Mustang GT. But I do enjoy driving it and it's nicer for the daily commute. I cannot say it's more fun to drive, since my GT is certainly faster, handles better, looks good, and is also pretty fun. I would also like to get more mpg out of my jeep, and I am working that way with some mods I am building for it. I did a simple mod to the mustang and got 1.2mpg. Hoping I can replicate that on the jeep.|
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|05-12-2013 11:00 AM|
If money is an issue, than sell your Jeep and buy a used Honda with the cash. Once you're out of school you can re-asses your situation. Without a car payment you can set aside some money for your next Jeep. At the end of the day, as wonderful as it is, a Jeep is just a vehicle. Your financial responsibility is more important. You'll have plenty of opportunities to own another Jeep in the future if you make good decisions today.
For me, SMILES per gallon is more important than miles per gallon. But I'm in a different situation than you. My Jeep is my daily driver and I wouldn't have it any other way. Good luck!
|05-12-2013 10:43 AM|
Another thing, you're better off driving a beater jeep that's your fix-r-up hobby than a beater car. You'll have plenty of time to peruse autotrader and CL for the perfect deal too.
I wouldn't like my jeep nearly as much if I was forced to rely on it 100%, and given that I can beat it up and not worry about it, it's more special
|05-12-2013 10:38 AM|
|Crashthings||If money is tight, school is important, I'd go with the focus. They are very nice and reliable cars. You dont need a Jeep right now. You'll have plenty of time in the future to own many Jeeps. There is nothing wrong with be SMART! Being smart now will allow you to have the Toys in the future. JMHO|
|05-12-2013 09:31 AM|
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