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05-16-2013 06:33 PM
freakengine It sounds to me like you might be better off selling your TJ and buying a different good used TJ with auto and maybe a hard top.

FWIW, I bought my first Wrangler a month ago (and happily found these forums). I could have afforded the payments on a new JK, but for me it would have been a mistake. I bought a 98 TJ outright and I love it. I like doing things myself and I think the TJ is much more self-serviceable. The down side for some is that the TJ is a little rougher around the edges, but I like that about it. I don't stress so much when modding it and my insurance is a whole lot lower than it would have been on that 2013. I expect I'll go next gen someday but keep the TJ in the family too.
05-16-2013 03:23 PM
Jeffreybomb
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Originally Posted by Detrubicon View Post
I just drove my new lifted JKU 4000 miles. 15 highway and 13 local. Took it on the beach drove it in the Orlando and off roaded in the George Washington NF all in the same trip with a 5 year old and a 1 year old and weren't ready to kill each other at the end of it. Do that in your TJ.
For the money it would cost to buy a "new lifted" JK, I'd rather buy a TJ, an iPad for the 5 year old, a back-up iPad for the 5 year old, an iPad for my wife, big-ass comfy car seats for both kids, and still have money left over for more mods when I get home.

05-14-2013 01:32 PM
dklassen If you look at the price of a new fully equipped Ruby and take into account what I paid for my TJ. Wonder what a custom 4x4 shop could do to my TJ for twenty five grand?
05-14-2013 12:57 PM
Tomdata
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Originally Posted by n00g7 View Post

I had my pick of the litter and went with a TJ. The JK didn't excite me... sure it's newer, but I wanted something with less electronic nannying--ABS, drive by wire, etc., etc.,--and the I6. To each his own.
Same theory I went with..

I went with auto trans so the wife could drive it sometimes. At first I felt like it wasn't a real jeep because it only had two pedals, but now I love it and laugh a little inside when I'm stuck on the 405fwy.
05-14-2013 11:21 AM
SHADYDC
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Originally Posted by n00g7 View Post
I don't get the big deal with driving a manual in traffic... you just let the engine carry you along without using any gas in 1st - 4th depending on how slow it is. I find traffic substantially more annoying when I have to keep my foot on the brake to keep from moving with an automatic and not having the direct coupling of the engine to the tranny.
me too, i constantly put my auto up in N when stopped and think time after time i wish i had a manual
05-14-2013 11:11 AM
dklassen It's really not that big a deal... If the traffic moves at a constant speed. It tends to be a lot of stop and go here and it's a royal pain in the ass sometimes. I should of probably bought an auto to begin with but given I'm considering a DD it changes things. Plus it's hard to find a low milage TJ around here for a good price. Most of them here are pretty clapped out. I got a good one and haven't seen one since that comes close. Just considering my options.
05-14-2013 10:42 AM
n00g7
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Originally Posted by dklassen View Post
Just out of curiosity, I got a quote to do a turn-key manual to auto tranny swap for my TJ. $4K Includes new tranny all parts and labor. I know they do top quality work though. I guess that's the price of not having a shop, tools and the knowledge.

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I don't get the big deal with driving a manual in traffic... you just let the engine carry you along without using any gas in 1st - 4th depending on how slow it is. I find traffic substantially more annoying when I have to keep my foot on the brake to keep from moving with an automatic and not having the direct coupling of the engine to the tranny.
05-14-2013 10:33 AM
dklassen Just out of curiosity, I got a quote to do a turn-key manual to auto tranny swap for my TJ. $4K Includes new tranny all parts and labor. I know they do top quality work though. I guess that's the price of not having a shop, tools and the knowledge.

http://www.essentiallyoffroad.com/
05-13-2013 02:41 PM
bigcountry11 Too bad you don't want a manual JK, otherwise I'd trade you. :P
05-13-2013 02:20 PM
SHADYDC
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Originally Posted by dklassen View Post
My dilemma is I like my TJ because it drives and feels like a Jeep. It's a little ruff around the edges and I like that. The JK although very nice especially as a DD feels too much like my wife's libby. Smooth and comfy for sure but a bit too refined to feel like a "jeep." That's not necessarily a bad thing depending on what one wants. That's what I'm trying to decide now.

Kind of like trucks are today. I want at truck that feels like a truck not a car. New trucks these days are just cars with beds.
i know exactly what you mean. when i bought a new truck i went w/ f-350 because it still fels like a truck and has the fancy BS on it lol. also i wanted a jeep that still felt like my old cj-7 i sold last year. i could have bought tj or jk and i chose the tj. i drive it 25 miles to work, i say keep the tj and civic. thats a good combo to have
05-13-2013 02:06 PM
TJmama
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Originally Posted by Jeffreybomb View Post

Of all the opinions in this thread, I think this one is the most spot-on.
Agreed!
05-13-2013 10:45 AM
Jeffreybomb
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Originally Posted by Jgood738 View Post
Trading in that beautiful TJ for a vehicle that "you don't get real excited for" will lead to regret.
Of all the opinions in this thread, I think this one is the most spot-on.
05-13-2013 08:08 AM
dklassen My dilemma is I like my TJ because it drives and feels like a Jeep. It's a little ruff around the edges and I like that. The JK although very nice especially as a DD feels too much like my wife's libby. Smooth and comfy for sure but a bit too refined to feel like a "jeep." That's not necessarily a bad thing depending on what one wants. That's what I'm trying to decide now.

Kind of like trucks are today. I want at truck that feels like a truck not a car. New trucks these days are just cars with beds.
05-13-2013 04:05 AM
ohioviper Hey there are guys who go from JK to TJ and vice versus . Its all preferences. For me I want a nice looking DD Jeep that has plenty of HP and modern comforts that can take me anywhere my old Jeeps would and the JK is up to the task. I couldnt imagine going back to a TJ after owning this JK .
05-13-2013 12:21 AM
n00g7
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Originally Posted by ohioviper View Post
For what its worth I have both a TJ and a JK in the driveway. The TJ is my sons and sometimes we trade if he needs to go on a long trip as the JK can giddy up and go on the freeway and rides nice and most of all is reliable. I am very happy to get my JK back and he is not so happy to get the TJ back.Offroad the JK will go anywhere the TJ will and then some. The TJ just feels dated and doesn't even compare to the JK.

Go test drive the JK and I doubt you will want the TJ anymore.
I had my pick of the litter and went with a TJ. The JK didn't excite me... sure it's newer, but I wanted something with less electronic nannying--ABS, drive by wire, etc., etc.,--and the I6. To each his own.
05-13-2013 12:01 AM
ohioviper For what its worth I have both a TJ and a JK in the driveway. The TJ is my sons and sometimes we trade if he needs to go on a long trip as the JK can giddy up and go on the freeway and rides nice and most of all is reliable. I am very happy to get my JK back and he is not so happy to get the TJ back.Offroad the JK will go anywhere the TJ will and then some. The TJ just feels dated and doesn't even compare to the JK.

Go test drive the JK and I doubt you will want the TJ anymore.
05-12-2013 08:05 PM
jimmy_buckle
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Originally Posted by Detrubicon View Post
I just drove my new lifted JKU 4000 miles. 15 highway and 13 local. Took it on the beach drove it in the Orlando and off roaded in the George Washington NF all in the same trip with a 5 year old and a 1 year old and weren't ready to kill each other at the end of it. Do that in your TJ.
That argument is only valid if you actually have kids
05-12-2013 08:04 PM
jimmy_buckle that argument is only valid if you actually have kids....
05-12-2013 07:34 PM
Jgood738 Trading in that beautiful TJ for a vehicle that "you don't get real excited for" will lead to regret.
05-12-2013 07:15 PM
n00g7 At least wait for the next gen wrangler to come out.
05-12-2013 07:13 PM
TJmama So here is my 2 cents worth...I just purchased our 7th jeep Friday ( 1 CJ8, 2 YJs, 2 previous TJs and 1 diesel Libby)...my "new" one is a 2006 TJ with the 6 speed which is now my DD(which I will drive happily for 27 miles to work) mom mobile and weekend offroader. Now-for the real 2 cents...I owned the Libby for 6 years and loved it. And still regret selling for a "practical and safe mom car". If you love the TJ whether you make it a DD or not -don't sell. If you feel you can live without it, sell and buy the new one. I looked at the new jeep and agree its not a TJ so I bought what I think will make selling the Libby worth it.
05-12-2013 07:12 PM
88irocz I'm kinda in the same boat as you. I have an 04 that I'm in love with. It was the best I can afford and I too felt I like the tjs better then the jks. Though, one of my friends just got a 13 jk rubi and its really growing on me. Im basically trying to convince myself that I like my tj better but the jks just have so many improvements over the tjs. When I have the money to afford a jk I'm going to have a difficult decision
05-12-2013 07:11 PM
SeVeReDiStOrTiOn
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Whats wrong with the current setup? Seems like a pretty god way to go about it. Similar to mine. I roll in a 2010 Corolla every day. My YJ is the weekend warrior
+1

From where i'm sitting you got a good thing going OP...fun on the weekends and good mpg for the daily grind. Even with the 3.6 pentastar you won't get good mileage maybe very low 20's if you drive slow. The engine isn't the problem it's the brick that surrounds it...same goes for the I6. If it was me i'd either stay as is or sell the civic to mod the TJ then stash the rest.
05-12-2013 07:11 PM
jp2611 I understand your being "torn". I got "lucky", my wife needed a new vehicle and agreed a '12 JK Sport would be a nice change from her Camry......The JK does get better gas mileage on the highway (than the TJ).....is easier to drive in traffic as it is an automatic.....has more creature comforts and the SAT radio is nice...but I have a hard time getting past taking a brand new vehicle out in the woods in this area...it is gonna get scratched and probably dented....and may get broke...and yeah its a Jeep and can be fixed....but maybe it is like if I want to have a crazy party where things are going to get broke and things may get damaged it is not gonna be at my house it is gonna be somewhere that is equipped to handle that (like a reception hall) and that I don't care if it gets hurt...yeah that is what my '04 TJ Sport is for....I may break it off road but I won't beat on a "brand new Jeep" like I will one that is 9 years old with a 160K miles..even though it is my DD...but we do have a 3rd vehicle for emergency use.
05-12-2013 06:58 PM
SurfKaster As much as I love my TJ I'll go against the grain & say go for it. Kind of the best of both worlds far as a DD & you'll have one less vehicle to maintain/pay insurance for.
05-12-2013 06:47 PM
dklassen It's just me and the wife. I'm more of a two door guy when it comes to a Wrangler. My Honda is a 4 door and my wife's Liberty is a 4 door. That's as close as I'll get. Course if I had a stable of kids it may be different.
05-12-2013 06:18 PM
Detrubicon I just drove my new lifted JKU 4000 miles. 15 highway and 13 local. Took it on the beach drove it in the Orlando and off roaded in the George Washington NF all in the same trip with a 5 year old and a 1 year old and weren't ready to kill each other at the end of it. Do that in your TJ.
05-12-2013 06:06 PM
dklassen Thanks for the complements. I really like my TJ a lot. I'll have to decide what I want to do but it wouldn't be easy to give it up even for a new JK. I'd probably be better served just keeping it. The TJ is a great platform, not that the JK isn't but there just something about TJ's I like. Regarding the flairs, they are xenon's.
05-12-2013 11:29 AM
PaulisTJ Mean looking TJ. You could just keep your 4.0 and swap in a aw-4 from an xj. I thought about doing this but its out of my price range. Got quoted around 3000+ I don't have the elusive money tree that everyone seems to have in their back yard.
On a side note what kind of flare are those? are they plastic like bushwhacker or xenon? or are they metal?
05-12-2013 11:29 AM
sinbob
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Originally Posted by Wranglin4Life View Post
Whats wrong with the current setup? Seems like a pretty god way to go about it. Similar to mine. I roll in a 2010 Corolla every day. My YJ is the weekend warrior
x2

My TJ is my DD I commute about 16 miles 1 way 6x a week. I have the 6sp but I only use 4 gears....and yeah it can be tiring sometimes but what the heck.....there is nothing sweeter than driving with the top and doors off....just my .02

It is your dime and you have to do what makes YOU happy!!!!!!!

oh and that is a good looking TJ!!!!!
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