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10-22-2013 08:54 PM
MANGOJK15
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Originally Posted by JBB609 View Post
okay so I am jku shopping, and I want a sahara just for the leather and the painted fenders and hard top. but the Sport S is WAY cheaper.

So my question is, can I buy a sport s with a hard top and pay to get the hard top and fenders painted (black)? has anyone ever tried to paint the fenders and hard top in matching gloss ?

also any deals or ideas on getting leather covers or oem seats/ oem seat covers in full leather ?

I feel that a sport S with a bodyshop painted fenders/hardtop and leather seat covers is STILL cheaper then a Sahara.

looking for info and opinions/ input


Thanks
Honestly, if you like the look of the painted flares and hardtop as well as the leather interior, you should spring for the Sahara. It is a lot of work for a body shop to smooth out the rough texture on a black hardtop then paint it. In addition, they aren't going to paint the existing black flares. Instead they replace them with the primed Sahara flares and paint them....expensive, expensive, expensive. There was a time when I wanted to have my black hardtop and fenders body matched until my quoted came in at $3000.

Factory Paintable Hardtop: 82212531, Cost: $2024.00. This top is already primed and ready for paint. Source: factorychryslerparts.com

BTW, the Freedom III does come with the painted flares, however the body colored hardtop isn't an option.
10-22-2013 08:08 PM
panthermark ^The only Sport with a painted top was the 2011 Mojave...(most people thought it was based on the Sahara, but it was really based on a Sport). Prior to 2011, there were no painted tops for the JK's...but there were "khaki" tops (which were closer to green IMO).

I've seen Sports with painted tops, but they were not from the factory, they were after-purchase swaps.


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Anyway, it came down to interior (wanted 2 tone saddle leather) and painted tops (depended on color of vehicle). I actually wanted a Moab, but I did not like how the interior was set up if you ordered saddle leather (it was basically an all black interior with saddle seats), plus the color selection was too limited.

A Sport S is a good buy....I just didn't want the all black interior.
10-22-2013 08:08 PM
panthermark ^The only Sport with a painted top was the 2011 Mojave...(most people thought it was based on the Sahara, but it was really based on a Sport). Prior to 2011, there were no painted tops for the JK's...but there were "khaki" tops (which were closer to green IMO).

I've seen Sports with painted tops, but they were not from the factory, they were after-purchase swaps.


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Anyway, it came down to interior (wanted 2 tone saddle leather) and painted tops (depended on color of vehicle). I actually wanted a Moab, but I did not like how the interior was set up if you ordered saddle leather (it was basically an all black interior with saddle seats), plus the color selection was too limited.

A Sport S is a good buy....I just didn't want the all black interior.
10-22-2013 07:58 PM
donmeca2020 If i recall correctly maybe the older years, i actually have seen Sport models with painted hard tops, and they weren't freedom editions.... i guess for the 13s and 14s they need to be freedom edition or higher to get a painted top and fenders.

back on topic, if you want the painted fenders and hard top. i would suggest buying a sahara... if you can live without the painted roof and fenders get the sport S.
10-22-2013 07:04 PM
pic18 We got a sport s because the price was not going to stretch us as bad. My wife wanted the sahara mainly for the painted fenders. After a couple weeks checking craigslist, we found a set of new takeoff painted fenders in the same color as our jeep for $300. We bought the quadratec clip kit for $50, and were happy. We don't like leather, and can live without the other options. The sport s was a good value.
10-22-2013 06:39 PM
Nuke83 Get a black sport and your top and fenders will be paint matched
10-22-2013 05:48 PM
Michel347 I'm glad I have the rough fenders, coming out of work today, get in my Jeep, I answer a phone call, while speaking I feel my Jeep moving sideways, looking around and see the lady besides, halfway in her car, sitting her child, pushing her door with her a$$ in my fender...
10-09-2013 07:02 AM
robocop I faced the same decision and chose the Sahara. If I remember correct the sport did not offer the two tone saddle interior nor the leather seats. This was my biggest factor as I really like that two tone interior with the tan leather seats.

I also figured the resale would be greater if I ever do decide to trade. I like the painted fenders however do not like the color matched tops. Mine has all the options for a loaded Sahara (minus color matched top) and I am happy with my choice.

You can add many aftermarket items to come close but the interior would be hard to change and most likely expensive. I will honestly never use this Jeep for what it was designed to do so those small creature comforts were more important. Good luck and enjoy whatever you choose.
10-08-2013 09:44 PM
jwilson2598
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Originally Posted by Mcrock View Post
Hmm....factory must have screwed up on my sport-s. It came with auto headlight feature. I don't use it. But does this little screw up mean my Jeep is a collector's piece??? I guess I have a one of a kind
I know that some of the Sport S based models like Freedom Editions and such came with auto headlights, is yours one of those?
10-08-2013 06:07 PM
Mcrock
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Originally Posted by KnoXouT View Post
Let me know when you figure out how to add the auto headlight feature to your Sport as that is the one option I really miss from my Touareg...
Hmm....factory must have screwed up on my sport-s. It came with auto headlight feature. I don't use it.
But does this little screw up mean my Jeep is a collector's piece??? I guess I have a one of a kind
10-08-2013 05:58 PM
panthermark
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Originally Posted by BacaraJKU View Post
I have a sport S and love it. Almost seems more rugged than a Sahara. However, if you love painted fenders and top, go with Sahara for sure. I personally love black top and fenders, but that is what is great about jeeps, there is something for everyone.

The only two things I wanted are auto headlights (still trying to see if I can add it after the fact) and auto temp. I've gotten used to not having them, but those are the only things I wanted.

My next jeep will be a Rubi for sure, not that I need it, but just want it. I can still get black fenders/top and have some extra goodies as well.

That is funny, I never use my auto headlights, and I passed on auto temp because I would never use it.

I looked at both the Sport S and the Sahara. A big part of it came down to what color I was going to buy, and if I was going to get a 2 door or 4 door. On some colors, a painted top and saddle leather interior was a must. On other colors, if I had to, I could have lived without saddle interior, and I probably would have preferred a black top (like Dozer).

I also really, really, really wanted the built in 115V converter on the Sahara/Rubi. Number of times I've used it since I've had it....ZERO. I should probably test it out to make sure it works one day.

But in the end, I'm glad I got the Sahara. Love the way it looks with the painted top and saddle leather. Plus I really like the look of the 2013 Sahara wheels in all black, and the Sahara shocks and AT tires provide a nice ride.

If I would have gotten a (loaded) Sport S in Dozer....I would probably have aftermarket wheels and tires, along with ACE rock rails (on top of Rubi rails)....and would enjoy it just as much.

(I see this is bit of an old thread)
10-08-2013 05:40 PM
KnoXouT Let me know when you figure out how to add the auto headlight feature to your Sport as that is the one option I really miss from my Touareg...
05-13-2013 12:02 AM
BacaraJKU I have a sport S and love it. Almost seems more rugged than a Sahara. However, if you love painted fenders and top, go with Sahara for sure. I personally love black top and fenders, but that is what is great about jeeps, there is something for everyone.

The only two things I wanted are auto headlights (still trying to see if I can add it after the fact) and auto temp. I've gotten used to not having them, but those are the only things I wanted.

My next jeep will be a Rubi for sure, not that I need it, but just want it. I can still get black fenders/top and have some extra goodies as well.
05-12-2013 11:33 PM
rics1997 Not a fan of the painted fenders especially on the trails but the only real advantage of the Sport is it has the best residual resale value of all models for some reason. Not by a lot though.
05-12-2013 11:26 PM
JBB609
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Originally Posted by jwilson2598 View Post
Another thing to consider when you're comparing them, is what does the cheaper Sport S have on it compared to the Sahara? There are some things such as sat radio, Alpine premium system with sub, side steps already on and included in the price of the Sahara, as well as Sahara/Rubi only standard equipment like the 115V plug in the console, auto headlamps, and heavy duty suspension. Also as mentioned, the Sahara and Rubi are gateways to certain options only available to them such as leather, heated seats, Nav, and auto temp. When I started pricing them out, the price difference between the Sport S and Sahara With the equipment I wanted was about $1100 before adding the Sahara only options I wanted as well. At that point, based on the equipment I wanted, I went Sahara and very glad I did.
well said
05-12-2013 11:21 PM
victor1955
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Originally Posted by jwilson2598 View Post
another thing to consider when you're comparing them, is what does the cheaper sport s have on it compared to the sahara? There are some things such as sat radio, alpine premium system with sub, side steps already on and included in the price of the sahara, as well as sahara/rubi only standard equipment like the 115v plug in the console, auto headlamps, and heavy duty suspension. Also as mentioned, the sahara and rubi are gateways to certain options only available to them such as leather, heated seats, nav, and auto temp. When i started pricing them out, the price difference between the sport s and sahara with the equipment i wanted was about $1100 before adding the sahara only options i wanted as well. At that point, based on the equipment i wanted, i went sahara and very glad i did.
x2
05-12-2013 10:12 PM
jwilson2598 Another thing to consider when you're comparing them, is what does the cheaper Sport S have on it compared to the Sahara? There are some things such as sat radio, Alpine premium system with sub, side steps already on and included in the price of the Sahara, as well as Sahara/Rubi only standard equipment like the 115V plug in the console, auto headlamps, and heavy duty suspension. Also as mentioned, the Sahara and Rubi are gateways to certain options only available to them such as leather, heated seats, Nav, and auto temp. When I started pricing them out, the price difference between the Sport S and Sahara With the equipment I wanted was about $1100 before adding the Sahara only options I wanted as well. At that point, based on the equipment I wanted, I went Sahara and very glad I did.
05-12-2013 09:10 PM
JeeperJake I was definitely UNinterested in painted fenders and most of the stuff that was on a Sahara. Came across a deal that was too good to pass up & now 30 months later I've gotten used to the painted fenders & enjoy most of the extras.

Given my 08JK is a khaki-dark green combo the very few standard black-flairs I've seen now look rather awkward to me.

From what I see here on line, whatever most of us start with only gives excuse to make changes, mods, & trade ins/ups/etc.

Good luck in your hunt.
05-12-2013 06:37 PM
JBB609 true, Yea its really if I wanna spend the money now or later, I think saving and buying it all at once might be a better idea
05-12-2013 06:37 PM
mike1158 i don't think painting the fenders and top would be that easy...sure it could be done, but remember both top and fenders have a texture to them...this would take quite a bit of labor to smooth out..i'd bet the bill at the body shop would be pretty hefty...
05-12-2013 06:36 PM
jpedmundson
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Originally Posted by iNtErNeT_rYaN View Post
A better solution would be to locate a Freedom Edition. It is a Sport S with a lot standard and with painted Flairs. You could always debadge it or give the Oscar Mike decal to a military friend.
x2: These are a good happy medium betwen the two if you like the cloth/leather seat combo.
05-12-2013 06:35 PM
JBB609 the freedom starts at the same price point at the sahara

the differences are that I cant get leather or a painted top with freedom and TBH I am not to fond of the grill being not body color
05-12-2013 06:33 PM
JBB609 Hmm well looking at the sahara exactly the way I want it its at around 36500 msrp with leather and painted top

Yea its cheaper to wait and save up for painted hard top and leather / heated seats
05-12-2013 06:32 PM
jpedmundson
I recently bought a Sahara and am glad I did. The sport is a very nice vehicle, especially at the lower price point. I used to have a less expensive TJ. I lifted it and put it on big mud tires because I had more time for off road adventures. Even stock, the sport is a very capable jeep. At this point in my life, utility gave way to luxury and I am glad my jeep is both capable off road but comfortable for my daily commute.
That having been said, I have heard/read that paint matching can be risky. I have seen it done nicely once and it was an expensive job. The Sahara comes with nice, 18 inch wheels, gas shocks that give a nice smooth ride, and an enjoyable alpine 7 speaker stereo. As for the seats, they are very nice. They come with seat heaters and give the jeep a smooth authentic look and feel.
Katzkin is a good custom leather interior vendor I have seen but a pricey aftermarket mod IMHO.
At the end of the day, I would go for the Sahara if it is within your budget. It has many nice upgrades from the sport and keeps not only the expense or your new jeep but your time consolidated. Besides, once you start driving it, you are going to want to spend your extra $$ on things like a lift, tires, bumpers, wheels, lockers, etc.
05-12-2013 06:21 PM
iNtErNeT_rYaN The biggest difference is items you can't get on a sport s. other wise you can get them the same.

things exclusive factory installed/available to Sahara:
Auto headlamp
Auto temp control
remote Start option
Navigation option
Leather heated seats

Those aren't the differences. Just things you can't get on a Sport S.

I'd recommend against painting the fenders, you would be better served locating take offs. The top requires so much prep you might as well get a Sahara. I have a 2007 and my prior owner painted it He paid about $1700. It looks nice but still. It was a Rubicon.
This comparison,This is all assuming you are selecting power convenience and alpine audio on the Sport. There is about $1500 in non content pricing.

A better solution would be to locate a Freedom Edition. It is a Sport S with a lot standard and with painted Flairs. You could always debadge it or give the Oscar Mike decal to a military friend.
05-12-2013 06:02 PM
JBB609
Sport s vs Sahara

okay so I am jku shopping, and I want a sahara just for the leather and the painted fenders and hard top. but the Sport S is WAY cheaper.

So my question is, can I buy a sport s with a hard top and pay to get the hard top and fenders painted (black)? has anyone ever tried to paint the fenders and hard top in matching gloss ?

also any deals or ideas on getting leather covers or oem seats/ oem seat covers in full leather ?

I feel that a sport S with a bodyshop painted fenders/hardtop and leather seat covers is STILL cheaper then a Sahara.

looking for info and opinions/ input


Thanks

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