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01-05-2014 01:51 PM
Xena1 Trade it so you don't have a failed cylinder head in your near future. Just make sure 2013 was built after August 2012.
01-05-2014 01:46 PM
paulandrewm
Keep the Altitude

Old post, but here's my 2 cents.

I went through the exact same process. Got a great deal on the Altitude (3.21 unfortunately) and then started pricing difference to Rubi.

If you're comparing apples to apples, you'd have to price out the new Rubi with all the creature comforts of the Altitude (and blacked out trim if, like me, you would have done that anyway). At that point, it's cheaper to upgrade the Altitude. But a previous poster is right, you'll get more back from reselling a stock Rubi than a Sahara with upgraded parts to match the Rubi.

After months and months of agonizing, I realized I wanted more of an Overland rig rather than a real rock crawler. No way I'm taking a new Wrangler on the rocks, irrespective of its capabilities. Plus, it's also my DD. For that, the Rubi crawl ratio is too low. I like the LSD in the rear and will add air lockers to the front, which will be better than e-lockers on the Rubi. If it had come with the 3.73 gearing, there would have been no agony at all - upgrade the Altitude all the way. The gearing gave me pause, but I'll change it when I add the lift and locker. Either way I was always going to get new wheels and bumpers. On a good note, I sold the Altitude wheels for $1,200 (because special edition) which helps.

For me, gearing + lift + front locker is cheaper than trade in. But also, I intend to keep the Jeep as long as possible (unless a diesel comes along...). Like you, I wouldn't want to go back to a stocker after having all the creature comforts of the Altitude.

Hope that helps.
06-13-2013 10:57 PM
Deepjeep1371
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Originally Posted by JCT1875 View Post

Keep the Altitude, man. It's a beautiful work of art, not many made (2,500), will always have an increased resale value over the Sahara, creature comforts to the max, and if you got it with 3.73's like me...you can do whatever your little heart desires...up to 33's and a 2.5" lift without the necessity of re-gearing. I wouldn't trade for the world, "the most luxurious Jeep ever made".
Did you get that # (2500) from anywhere official? They originally said they were going to make 4500. But for some reason I got a feeling they did not get to that #. 2500 would be cool and good to know
06-09-2013 02:09 AM
JCT1875 Say bye bye to the creature comforts ;-)
06-08-2013 07:29 AM
Spyder1049 do it get the rubicon !!!!
06-08-2013 12:28 AM
jadmt life is short and unpredictable get what you want.
06-07-2013 11:51 PM
convict27 Here are some thoughts of what I would have to upgrade to get even close to the basics on the Rubicon

New Dana 44 front with 4:10s and lockers= 4000.00
4:1 transfer case=1200.00
regearing for rear dana 44=1000.00
electronic sway bar disconnect=1400.00
total on these items alone 7600.00 with no labor cost

trade value on my Altitude put back to stock would be 29000.00
New 2013 commando green 34000.00 (add 1000.00 for dealer added leather)

Difference before taxes would be 6000.

add another 1500 for taxes and the value is about the same. The only difference would be the added benefit of the Rubicon would be the warranty of the stock components and the loss of my warranty if I change all of those components to aftermarket.
06-07-2013 01:36 AM
JCT1875
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Originally Posted by Dragonscape View Post
Should you upgrade existing you will invest 7-10K worth of mods that will never be returned when you trade/sell later
A Rubi is a Rubi some of the invested difference you will recieve when you trade/sell at some later date
Go for the 14 Rubicon
Question is...do you really need it? A more accurate dollar range would be approximately $6-7k worth of mods.
06-07-2013 01:27 AM
Dragonscape Should you upgrade existing you will invest 7-10K worth of mods that will never be returned when you trade/sell later
A Rubi is a Rubi some of the invested difference you will recieve when you trade/sell at some later date
Go for the 14 Rubicon
06-07-2013 12:24 AM
JCT1875
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Originally Posted by convict27 View Post
When I bought the Altitude, I wasn't buying it because it was a limited edition. I honestly had never heard of it when I picked it up. Now that I have it, I love all the extra stuff that is in it that makes it an Altitude. The good thing with the Altitude was that all the extra items were not the off-road items and were more for comfort and looks, so I did not feel bad about replacing the bumpers, suspension and wheels and tires.

I know that all Jeeps are off-road worthy, but I wanted a Rubi for all the off-road components that come standard on it. But now when I am looking at them, I want the nice items that are upgrades such as leather, the blacked out interior and the heated seats but when I add those items, it pushes the price outside of my window.

This damn Altitude spoiled me as far as comfort goes. I would have been happy with a stripped down Rubi with no extra's at all before I got this one. Now I realize how much I like this stuff and it is making my decision difficult.
Keep the Altitude, man. It's a beautiful work of art, not many made (2,500), will always have an increased resale value over the Sahara, creature comforts to the max, and if you got it with 3.73's like me...you can do whatever your little heart desires...up to 33's and a 2.5" lift without the necessity of re-gearing. I wouldn't trade for the world, "the most luxurious Jeep ever made".
05-13-2013 07:41 AM
convict27 When I bought the Altitude, I wasn't buying it because it was a limited edition. I honestly had never heard of it when I picked it up. Now that I have it, I love all the extra stuff that is in it that makes it an Altitude. The good thing with the Altitude was that all the extra items were not the off-road items and were more for comfort and looks, so I did not feel bad about replacing the bumpers, suspension and wheels and tires.

I know that all Jeeps are off-road worthy, but I wanted a Rubi for all the off-road components that come standard on it. But now when I am looking at them, I want the nice items that are upgrades such as leather, the blacked out interior and the heated seats but when I add those items, it pushes the price outside of my window.

This damn Altitude spoiled me as far as comfort goes. I would have been happy with a stripped down Rubi with no extra's at all before I got this one. Now I realize how much I like this stuff and it is making my decision difficult.
05-13-2013 05:01 AM
strider_mt2k
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Originally Posted by Old Dogger View Post
I would get the Rubicon and never look back!
This.
05-13-2013 04:36 AM
asianhulk Its a special edition, I would keep the altitude and upgrade. Or could try your luck with the Rubi 10A.
05-13-2013 04:26 AM
Deepjeep1371 Keep the Altitude. They did not make very many and it will hold a bit more value down the road vs regular JKU . Mo money for you when you trade up to the US Hemi version. I love my Tude, but I dont wheel. Well I mean....I wheel it in parking lots and stuff. I drove through a puddle once too. Lmmfao
05-13-2013 01:01 AM
RKracing
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Originally Posted by cosmos View Post
I had a 12 sport and was thinking about lifting it and 35's, then I would need to regear it, and while it's apart maybe put some lockers in it, and..... I traded it for a 13 rubicon and am very happy I did.

Dam.....^^^^^^ this guy is right also
05-13-2013 01:00 AM
RKracing
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Originally Posted by RKracing View Post
Go for a 14 Rubicon with a visor-mirror that lights up for your wife. Dude, do not surrender. so you lose out on sex for a few weeks. Work out and get more buffed in those weeks and she will be really warm for your form..... And you will have a 14 Rubicon.....everyone win's!

Then after a few months and that $hit calms down we will talk about you getting your 4" EVO long arm lift with 37" tires. Hell yes, Balls To The Wall! No more sitting on the front porch, then you can run with the BIG DOG'S... I'm getting ready to run with them too
^^^^^ This guy is right and I know he is not on
05-13-2013 12:58 AM
RKracing
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Originally Posted by tontwins View Post
I have a 13 sport and put a lift rear locker gears tires warn it goes everywhere a rub can go
Question, If you do not care for Rubicons which you do have a 100% right to......
Why do you have one in as your avatar? Especially my wife's Jeep as your avatar......but my wife says thanks for the compliment (kinda).
05-12-2013 09:03 PM
convict27 All of my registration and taxes are done through Oklahoma due to being military.
05-12-2013 08:42 PM
n00g7 Might want to check how bad you're going to get burned on registration and sales tax... Another 3grand right there if you're talking CA.
05-12-2013 08:34 PM
WatchThis! Sounds like a great dealership to work with.
05-12-2013 07:28 PM
convict27 I have already put a 3.5 inch Metalcloak lift, 35's, front and rear bumpers, and winch. The dealer told me that he would give me 28000.00 for my Jeep put back to stock form. I kept all of my original equipment so I could put it back minus the fender flares which I trimmed . They brought the rubicon down from 39800 to 34000, so the difference would be 6000. They also said I could take the new jeep home and they would follow me with my old jeep so I could change everything over. I told them it would take about 2 days to switch everything back over, and they would be fine with that.
05-12-2013 05:55 PM
WatchThis!
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Originally Posted by tontwins View Post
I have a 13 sport and put a lift rear locker gears tires warn it goes everywhere a rub can go
Maybe lots of places, but not anywhere without useing the winch. I often try to get as far along as I can before I start switching lockers on, and there are a lot of things you simply can't do without a front locker. There are lots of trails you can't run without a front locker.

That is unless you are comparing your moded jeep to a stock rubi. The OP probably going to upgrade eather jeep so it all comes down to the math of it all. Of course he has to decide if he wants to give up comfort or capabilities.
05-12-2013 05:48 PM
tontwins
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Originally Posted by tontwins View Post
I have a 13 sport and put a lift rear locker gears tires warn it goes everywhere a rub can go
I would have done tires and lift regardless of model I had but gears and tires cost 1500 that if I had spend if i had the rubi
05-12-2013 05:46 PM
tontwins I have a 13 sport and put a lift rear locker gears tires warn it goes everywhere a rub can go
05-12-2013 03:27 PM
cosmos I had a 12 sport and was thinking about lifting it and 35's, then I would need to regear it, and while it's apart maybe put some lockers in it, and..... I traded it for a 13 rubicon and am very happy I did.
05-12-2013 01:51 PM
Blackpony04
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Originally Posted by convict27 View Post
I love doing the work myself, but part of me likes the idea of having everything already done with a warranty.
If it will cost you $8k to upgrade your Sahara to Rubi specs but it's $6k to trade up to a 1 year newer vehicle with less depreciation, full manufacturers warranty, and everything you want I think you have to let the Math gods make this decision.
05-12-2013 10:01 AM
Spyder1049 i had a 12 sahara silver JKU , traded it in for a 13 JKUR and havent looked back , like having the lockers if i need them , many differences in the two color wise , couldn't be happier glad i made the trade up !
05-11-2013 09:24 PM
Miser
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Originally Posted by convict27 View Post
Thanks guys for the replies. I guess the wife decided for me. No Rubicon for me. Time to just plant the ol' money tree and upgrade when I can.
Don't give up! Take her out for dinner, buy her some flowers and a box of candy and then on the way back, pick up that Rubicon.........
05-11-2013 04:27 PM
RKracing
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Originally Posted by RKracing View Post
Go for a 14 Rubicon with a visor-mirror that lights up for your wife. Dude, do not surrender. so you lose out on sex for a few weeks. Work out and get more buffed in those weeks and she will be really warm for your form..... And you will have a 14 Rubicon.....everyone win's!

Then after a few months and that $hit calms down we will talk about you getting your 4" EVO long arm lift with 37" tires. Hell yes, Balls To The Wall! No more sitting on the front porch, then you can run with the BIG DOG'S... I'm getting ready to run with them too

^^^what he said
05-11-2013 04:20 PM
convict27 I love doing the work myself, but part of me likes the idea of having everything already done with a warranty.
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