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Today 10:49 AM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by anointedjk View Post
Reviving a thread. But was reading and wanted to respond


Purefireled.com

This is where I get all mine
Those don't look like Aurora lights.
Today 12:09 AM
anointedjk
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Originally Posted by WeekenderATX View Post
I know this thread is old, but what site did y'all use to buy your LED's? Thanks!
Reviving a thread. But was reading and wanted to respond


Purefireled.com

This is where I get all mine
04-16-2014 09:52 PM
CtznArcane Just FYI,

I'm selling a set of Aurora embedded LED pods here:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f14/aur...ck-650217.html
04-13-2014 01:42 PM
tlyons
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Originally Posted by Knuckles65 View Post
A single row (low profile) of 10W LED's in a 50" bar would be cool!

Think about it...the standard double row 50 has two LED's in one vertical plane = 6W. Replace that with one 10W and it's almost double the power in half the space.

That's exactly what I want also. Ideally mounted really low against the frame of the windshield to make it less obtrusive and protect it a bit from passing branches.

Does anyone make this?
04-13-2014 11:50 AM
tlyons
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Originally Posted by MagicMtnDan View Post
I'm always amazed at people who spend up to $45,000 on a Jeep (and thousands more to modify them) complain about the price for the highest quality products.

At what point do people stop caring about quality of the product and service and company reputation and decide to buy sh!tty lights mass produced at some greasy little shack in China because they're cheaper?

How much do you think it costs a company to INNOVATE and design and market unique products? What do you think it costs a company to bring unique products to market first? And how long will it be before some company in China knocks off the product and tells you to buy theirs because it has more lumens for 1/3 the price? (When they don't even know what lumens are or how to spell the word?).

And will you complain about the cheap ass lights you bought when they fail after a year-and-a-half and you can't seem to get the company you bought them from to cover them under warranty?

At what point do you stop caring about quality and only worry about price?

And why didn't you buy an FJ Cruiser or 4x4 pickup or some other wannabe instead of a Jeep?

Oh, and what does your company do? Does it lead the industry or follow? What does it take for a company in your market be the market leader? And how do they deal with (cheap) Chinese product competition?

Just wondering...
You might make a better point to Focus on Cree.

They are a great American company with multi-million dollar annual budget for R&D providing good high paying jobs at their factory, at their fab and at their research center in Durham NC. They have consistently lead the industry in quality and performance. They and their employees pay state and Federal taxes to contribute as good neighbors should. They are incorporated in the US and 40% of their employees are in the US.

Cree, Inc. - Annual Reports

I would choose Cree products and pay a premium. But choosing one importer of products or another, I might pay an extra 10% or 20% to buy from an importer with a stronger reputation but not a lot more than that.
04-03-2014 12:34 PM
TerryC6 Hell I was thinking a double row of 10w LED's all spot to go along with a a 10w 10 or 12 inch double row winch mount configured for flood. And to round it all off a set of 6 inch round in a driving beam pattern on the stinger that I can use on road to supplement high beams on those lonely 2 lane roads. Oh and then lets not for rock lights. Overkill, yep, cool factor off the charts.
04-03-2014 09:00 AM
Knuckles65 A single row (low profile) of 10W LED's in a 50" bar would be cool!

Think about it...the standard double row 50 has two LED's in one vertical plane = 6W. Replace that with one 10W and it's almost double the power in half the space.

04-03-2014 08:55 AM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by TerryC6 View Post
I wonder if we are going to see a 50 inch light bar with 10w LED's?
I have the 3W units in mine (this is before they had the 5W option for the 50") and it is INSANELY powerful. My 50" is a spot beam (most people get the combo) and on a clear night, it will light up over a mile (not exaggerating.) I can't imagine what a 10W 50" would look like.
04-03-2014 07:09 AM
TerryC6 I wonder if we are going to see a 50 inch light bar with 10w LED's?
04-03-2014 05:27 AM
randykyra
Yes

I've found this to been very useful. I've even forwarded this post to a friend looking for leds.
So locking it would be a big disservice.
04-02-2014 07:29 AM
WeekenderATX ^concur
03-31-2014 09:06 AM
NFRs2000NYC If a mod is reading this, instead of locking, please remove any posts debating the china vs usa crap (including mine) and just leave the meat. This is a very useful and informative thread.
03-31-2014 08:42 AM
Tom95YJ IBTL
03-31-2014 08:23 AM
NFRs2000NYC Really? Again?
03-31-2014 07:36 AM
Backwoodsboy129
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Originally Posted by MagicMtnDan View Post

Good for you! Glad to see people buying from American companies rather than Chinese companies.

So you sell Aurora products. Why don't you respect peoples' decision to buy from American companies rather than criticizing them and making silly claims like these. Plenty of companies buy IP to own it and call it their own. And defending Aurora because "they stopped (copying Rigid's products) and perfected their own after Rigid threatened legal action is lame.

And I hate it when someone defends Aurora and attacks people on this forum (which is what you've done) because they sell their products. Show some class and let people spend money buying from an American company instead of buying from you so you can send their dollars to China.
Here we go again.
03-31-2014 12:24 AM
MagicMtnDan
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Originally Posted by BigSkyJeep View Post
You're probably right regarding the "assembled in USA" part. Sadly, many American companies are forced to source parts from China nowadays. I saw a post from a Rigid rep. on another site where they claimed the only part not American made is the LED's; the post was a couple years old though, maybe that's changed. The same rep. also stated that Rigid bought the original maker of Led light bars back in 2007/8, long before any Chinese company was making led light bars.

Regardless, I figured Rigid is headquartered in Arizona and employees 75+ Americans. Rigids quality control is undoubtedly better than a Chinese factory. Plus I have heard people put their warranty to the test and not had an issue. Faulty products are either fixed or replaced, no jumping through hoops involved.

Good for you! Glad to see people buying from American companies rather than Chinese companies.


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Originally Posted by paleh0rse View Post
Rigid owns two patents that they inherited when buying another company -- both related to their optics -- and neither of those is infringed upon in Aurora's current ALO product line.

I only know this because I investigated them pretty thoroughly about a year ago. They used to include the Rigid optics, as well, but they stopped and perfected their own after Rigid threatened legal action.

Never assume.
So you sell Aurora products. Why don't you respect peoples' decision to buy from American companies rather than criticizing them and making silly claims like these. Plenty of companies buy IP to own it and call it their own. And defending Aurora because "they stopped (copying Rigid's products) and perfected their own after Rigid threatened legal action is lame.


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Originally Posted by paleh0rse View Post
Aurora offers a two year warranty, and their QC is right on par with Rigid. My buddies and I have ordered more than a hundred of their lights over the last year, and none of those has failed.

We did have two mounts break, but one was over-torqued (Aurora replaced it for free in 10 days), and the other one broke on an A-pillar mount because one if my friends allowed a 300+ pound guy stand on them while climbing on the vehicle. (derp)

But, again, none of their lights have failed or broken.

I hate it when people assume Aurora is just cheap Chinese knock-off shit when it's really not. In reality, Aurora quite clearly stacks up against the very best.

If you guys feel like grossly over-paying for your lights, then that's on you... good luck with that.

And I hate it when someone defends Aurora and attacks people on this forum (which is what you've done) because they sell their products. Show some class and let people spend money buying from an American company instead of buying from you so you can send their dollars to China.
03-30-2014 05:10 PM
randykyra
hey

Hey all,
Great information, Other than the bull sh@# part debating the chinese and american shit. I found it very informative. Getting ready to purchase three Aurora lights for my boat to put on the Wakeboard tower. I'll eventually order some additional ones for my jeep.

thanks again..........
03-13-2014 10:18 AM
CtznArcane I'm pulling together a Michigan group buy for Aurora this week (my 3rd in two years).

No issues at all and great service from Vivi.

If anyone wants in, PM me.
02-02-2014 07:44 PM
paleh0rse
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Originally Posted by HartlessOne View Post
Lots of great info on this thread (thanks everyone). I'm considering a 10" LED light bar. I've seen the Aurora 10" LED Light Bar with the 20 x 5w LEDs for the total 100w. Here is one on eBay:

Aurora 10" Dual Row LED Off Road Light Bar 5W LEDs 100W Total 5600L | eBay

Wanted to know if anyone knows how the Aurora would compare to say the Rigid E2 10" - Hyperspot?

Rigid Industries LED Lighting | Leader in Off road LED light bars, truck LED lights, Marine LEDs, and Industrial LEDs

Thanks - HartlessOne
Well, the Aurora dual-row 10" (ALO-10-P4E4D) is arguably more attractive (lower profile), has 25 more watts (100 vs 75), has nearly 2000 more raw lumens (5600 vs 3880), and costs nearly 1/3 the price of the Rigid Hyperspot ($175 vs $499).

So, um, yeah... you decide! LOL

I can get an Aurora dual-row 40" bar with 22,400 raw lumens (ALO-40-P4E4D) for the price of that Rigid Hyperspot... just sayin'
02-02-2014 07:44 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by HartlessOne View Post
Lots of great info on this thread (thanks everyone). I'm considering a 10" LED light bar. I've seen the Aurora 10" LED Light Bar with the 20 x 5w LEDs for the total 100w. Here is one on eBay:

Aurora 10" Dual Row LED Off Road Light Bar 5W LEDs 100W Total 5600L | eBay

Wanted to know if anyone knows how the Aurora would compare to say the Rigid E2 10" - Hyperspot?

Rigid Industries LED Lighting | Leader in Off road LED light bars, truck LED lights, Marine LEDs, and Industrial LEDs

Thanks - HartlessOne
If you are mounting the 10" on your bumper you don't want a spot. It will lose it's effective range with hill crests, grass, etc. For bumpers you want flood/combo. Combo/Driving go at the A pillar and the spots go up on the roof. I don't have any experience with the new rigid lightbars. The one you linked is a little weaker light wise (75w) but the optics might be great (I have no idea.) For the price difference, I like Aurora (and run the 10" combo on the bumper)

Having a 10" combo on the bumper, D2s on the a-pillar, and a 50" spot on the roof gives me full coverage of the terrain ahead.
02-02-2014 02:25 PM
HartlessOne Lots of great info on this thread (thanks everyone). I'm considering a 10" LED light bar. I've seen the Aurora 10" LED Light Bar with the 20 x 5w LEDs for the total 100w. Here is one on eBay:

Aurora 10" Dual Row LED Off Road Light Bar 5W LEDs 100W Total 5600L | eBay

Wanted to know if anyone knows how the Aurora would compare to say the Rigid E2 10" - Hyperspot?

Rigid Industries LED Lighting | Leader in Off road LED light bars, truck LED lights, Marine LEDs, and Industrial LEDs

Thanks - HartlessOne
01-22-2014 11:18 PM
paleh0rse
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Originally Posted by efm-7 View Post
The d1Cs are mounted. They are really, REALLY bright, I have them pointed at my garage door.

Excuse the crappy phone pic
Yeah, they definitely put out some serious light. Congrats!
01-22-2014 07:54 PM
efm-7 The d1Cs are mounted. They are really, REALLY bright, I have them pointed at my garage door.

Excuse the crappy phone pic

Attachment 693129
01-17-2014 05:16 PM
efm-7 I was... NOT ANYMORE!!! Lol

Great product regardless. I just have to find a different use and mounting location for them
01-17-2014 04:39 PM
paleh0rse
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post

The aurora driving pattern is narrower than rigids and is hotter in the center, meaning, it's more of a spot than rigids driving. I've tested then both side by side. Just my findings.
That's true, and it's due to the different optics. The D1C is more of a combo pattern than the pure "driving" pattern of the D2s.

That said, the D1C's are brighter (more lumens), and who is planning to use these as headlights anyways? LOL
01-17-2014 04:35 PM
paleh0rse
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Originally Posted by BigSkyJeep View Post
Rigids quality control is undoubtedly better than a Chinese factory. Plus I have heard people put their warranty to the test and not had an issue. Faulty products are either fixed or replaced, no jumping through hoops involved.
Aurora offers a two year warranty, and their QC is right on par with Rigid. My buddies and I have ordered more than a hundred of their lights over the last year, and none of those has failed.

We did have two mounts break, but one was over-torqued (Aurora replaced it for free in 10 days), and the other one broke on an A-pillar mount because one if my friends allowed a 300+ pound guy stand on them while climbing on the vehicle. (derp)

But, again, none of their lights have failed or broken.

I hate it when people assume Aurora is just cheap Chinese knock-off shit when it's really not. In reality, Aurora quite clearly stacks up against the very best.

If you guys feel like grossly over-paying for your lights, then that's on you... good luck with that.
01-17-2014 04:26 PM
paleh0rse
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Originally Posted by BigSkyJeep View Post
Just got my Rigid D2's (driving beam) which I'll be installing this weekend. I'll be installing them in place of the oem fog lights using the Rigid mounting brackets. Will be using the Rigid harness, triggering the relay with the factory foglight switch.

Had considered going with Aurora, but decided to spend extra for an American made product with a lifetime warranty. Also don't like the fact that Aurora, like most Chinese manufacturers, simply copy an American co.'s design with no regard or respect for their patents. I couldn't in good conscience bemoan how everything is made in China nowadays and then go ahead and buy Chinese when an American made product is available. Just my $.02.
Rigid owns two patents that they inherited when buying another company -- both related to their optics -- and neither of those is infringed upon in Aurora's current ALO product line.

I only know this because I investigated them pretty thoroughly about a year ago. They used to include the Rigid optics, as well, but they stopped and perfected their own after Rigid threatened legal action.

Never assume.
01-17-2014 02:55 PM
NFRs2000NYC
Quote:
Originally Posted by efm-7 View Post
The D1Cs are the D2 driving "equivalents"
The aurora driving pattern is narrower than rigids and is hotter in the center, meaning, it's more of a spot than rigids driving. I've tested then both side by side. Just my findings.
01-17-2014 02:47 PM
efm-7
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post
There are different beam patterns...spot, flood and driving (combo.) You need to compare apples to apples.
The D1Cs are the D2 driving "equivalents"
01-17-2014 02:39 PM
BigSkyJeep
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post
Sadly you didn't buy an American made product. Even rigid changed their tune from made in the us to "designed and assembled" in the USA. All the parts are still Chinese/Asian. Their patents are on their optics only which have long been not copied and actually improved upon (scroll back and look at the ARB vs Aurora lights a few pages back) and the design isn't rigids either really, since Hanma has been making LED lights longer than rigid has been around. Im glad you like your lights but facts are facts. So far, the only company I have been able to verify that is truly made in the USA is bulldog LED.
You're probably right regarding the "assembled in USA" part. Sadly, many American companies are forced to source parts from China nowadays. I saw a post from a Rigid rep. on another site where they claimed the only part not American made is the LED's; the post was a couple years old though, maybe that's changed. The same rep. also stated that Rigid bought the original maker of Led light bars back in 2007/8, long before any Chinese company was making led light bars.

Regardless, I figured Rigid is headquartered in Arizona and employees 75+ Americans. Rigids quality control is undoubtedly better than a Chinese factory. Plus I have heard people put their warranty to the test and not had an issue. Faulty products are either fixed or replaced, no jumping through hoops involved.
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