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05-20-2013 05:05 PM
Nobozos84 I've changed my own oil plenty of times, I always had a car so I used floor ramps, no way could I fit uner a car 6" off the ground. This is my first Wrangler. My need for the floor jack and the stands were to do my own tire rotation. Ill use ramps for the oil change. I finally got tired of having to take a sharpie to ny tires and mark them so I know if the garage did the rotation. I actually caught the last 4 places, 2 Goodyear, a Mr Tire and a Firestone dealer, not doing the rotation. I have to go in and raise hell every time so Ill go back to my youth and do it all myself.
05-20-2013 01:33 PM
Wrangler Wrassler
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Originally Posted by m998dna View Post

OK .. Let's look at this from another perspective. I can see you're new to oil changes.

First off, you don't need all this stuff to change the oil and rotate the tires. Just crawl under your Jeep with a bucket and remove the oil pan plug - I've never jacked up a vehicle once in my life to change the oil.

However I've put many on a hydraulic lift, then walked under the vehicle and changed the oil... Not to mention brakes, gas filters, tires and a bunch of other stuff.

Moving on ... after you're done changing the oil with the vehicle sitting firm on the ground, take it down to Big O tires and have them balance and rotate your tires. If you want to be ambitious, buy a good Hein-Werner hydraulic jack and lift each end at a time, remove and change the tire as you rotate the spare into the mix.

To remove the lugs, loosen them on the ground and then a few pumps with a Hein-Werner jack under the axle takes maybe 3 minutes to lift, remove and install the other tire. Repeat at each corner. Simple as that.

I've never crawled underneath a vehicle to change a tire or to remove and replace brakes - but that's me and how I worked on vehicles in a service station and in my garage.

Remember, you still need to crawl under the vehicle to position jack stands correctly while sitting on a hydraulic jack, especially in the rear. You can maybe stretch your arm underneath and keep your head out from underneath the vehicle - but I would want to make sure you get those stands in the right position.

Hence the need for a crash helmet if you buy a $50.00 hydraulic jack.

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This^^ although I do pull my cars up on a ramp, e brake them, put them in gear or park and chock the wheels to change oil. I like to get every drop out of the oil pan before replacing it. That's just me. But all of this is solid info OP.
05-20-2013 10:28 AM
m998dna
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Originally Posted by Nobozos84 View Post
Well said, point taken, thanks guys !
OK .. Let's look at this from another perspective. I can see you're new to oil changes.

First off, you don't need all this stuff to change the oil and rotate the tires. Just crawl under your Jeep with a bucket and remove the oil pan plug - I've never jacked up a vehicle once in my life to change the oil.

However I've put many on a hydraulic lift, then walked under the vehicle and changed the oil... Not to mention brakes, gas filters, tires and a bunch of other stuff.

Moving on ... after you're done changing the oil with the vehicle sitting firm on the ground, take it down to Big O tires and have them balance and rotate your tires. If you want to be ambitious, buy a good Hein-Werner hydraulic jack and lift each end at a time, remove and change the tire as you rotate the spare into the mix.

To remove the lugs, loosen them on the ground and then a few pumps with a Hein-Werner jack under the axle takes maybe 3 minutes to lift, remove and install the other tire. Repeat at each corner. Simple as that.

I've never crawled underneath a vehicle to change a tire or to remove and replace brakes - but that's me and how I worked on vehicles in a service station and in my garage.

Remember, you still need to crawl under the vehicle to position jack stands correctly while sitting on a hydraulic jack, especially in the rear. You can maybe stretch your arm underneath and keep your head out from underneath the vehicle - but I would want to make sure you get those stands in the right position.

Hence the need for a crash helmet if you buy a $50.00 hydraulic jack.

.02

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05-20-2013 07:46 AM
TrueBlueJK
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Originally Posted by Raiderfan001 View Post
I don't see the point in spending $500 on a floor jack. If you're under the vehicle when it is being jacked up that's just natural selection cleaning up the gene pool. That type of person doesn't need to be breeding anyways. Save the money for some nice jack stands
I agree!
05-20-2013 07:39 AM
dale 3 You get what you pay for! Except when you buy a new jeep!
05-20-2013 06:53 AM
Raiderfan001 I don't see the point in spending $500 on a floor jack. If you're under the vehicle when it is being jacked up that's just natural selection cleaning up the gene pool. That type of person doesn't need to be breeding anyways. Save the money for some nice jack stands
05-20-2013 06:12 AM
Nobozos84 Well said, point taken, thanks guys !
05-19-2013 11:08 PM
Brewbek ^^^^ What he said too!
05-19-2013 11:06 PM
traitor08 There are places to skimp on money. But if it something that can get me really messed up I spend money.

Jacks
Jack stands
Brakes
Steering etc.

Those things are not where you need to be saving a couple dollars, it literally saves you at every use.

I know it sounds like overkill, but I used to be one of those guys to fix any problem on otr trucks and under 60k lb trailers for a living. Buy the good stuff so you never have to worry.
05-19-2013 11:06 PM
Brewbek ^^^^ What he said.
05-19-2013 10:55 PM
m998dna
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Originally Posted by Nobozos84 View Post
Any opinions on these two sets ?
My goal is to use floor ramps for oil changes so I'll be safe there ( jack stands under the front for extra protection ) and use the floor jack under one wheel at a time to put the jeep up on jack stands and do tire rotations.

Big Red 10 PC Combo Garage Kit | Product Details | Pep Boys $69.99

Big Red 3 Ton Garage Jack Combo | Product Details | Pep Boys $89.99
Do they come with a crash helmet?

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05-19-2013 10:51 PM
Nobozos84 Any opinions on these two sets ?
My goal is to use floor ramps for oil changes so I'll be safe there ( jack stands under the front for extra protection ) and use the floor jack under one wheel at a time to put the jeep up on jack stands and do tire rotations.

Big Red 10 PC Combo Garage Kit | Product Details | Pep Boys $69.99

Big Red 3 Ton Garage Jack Combo | Product Details | Pep Boys $89.99
05-19-2013 09:36 PM
Brewbek IMHO, a floor jack is something that your gonna have for a long time, maybe forever. Buy the best, biggest and baddest you can afford. It will pay off in spades when your still using it 15-20 yrs from now. I have an old Craftsman 3.5 ton handed down to me from my Dad. Lord only knows how long he had it. Hell I've had it 10 yrs myself. Still works perfect. I wont even mention your life, and always have a jack stand under the rig when your under it.
05-19-2013 09:24 PM
sparky
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Originally Posted by Nobozos84 View Post
My goal is to use floor ramps for oil changes so I'll be safe there ( jack stands under the front for extra protection ) and use the floor jack under one wheel at a time to put the jeep up on jack stands and do tire rotations. What do you think about a 2 ton floor jack for this type of use ? Or do I have to use nothing less than less than a 3 ton floor jack ?
A jack under the pumpkin is only picking up half the vehicle weight.
A 2 ton is fine.
Getting larger is never a bad thing though, especially if you are going to work on other vehicles.
05-19-2013 08:28 PM
jmb6420 I've had this jack for about 10 years now. It's never let me down. Before this one I had a jack I bought from Pep Boys for $100. After resealing it twice I gave it away.

OTC Racing Jack
05-19-2013 07:38 PM
Nobozos84 My goal is to use floor ramps for oil changes so I'll be safe there ( jack stands under the front for extra protection ) and use the floor jack under one wheel at a time to put the jeep up on jack stands and do tire rotations. What do you think about a 2 ton floor jack for this type of use ? Or do I have to use nothing less than less than a 3 ton floor jack ?
05-19-2013 07:17 PM
nickgbp Ive been using something like this (from NAPA) for a couple years...
Craftsman 4000 lb. Capacity Aluminum Jack: Get Deals on Tools at Sears
05-19-2013 06:38 PM
Nobozos84 Great info, thanks !!
05-19-2013 04:48 PM
kjeeper10 X4


Over a year old and no issues whatsoever.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f19/har...ck-233385.html
05-19-2013 04:47 PM
TrueBlueJK
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Originally Posted by m998dna View Post
How much is your group medical plan deductible? ...

pay me now, pay me later...

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I wouldn't get under my jeep even if it was on a $500 jack, as long as the jack stands you're using are rated for the weight being used it doesn't matter what brand.
05-19-2013 04:22 PM
Wrangler Wrassler
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Originally Posted by Nobozos84 View Post
Lol, good point !!! I don't plan on getting under the rig without jack stands and ramps under it but heck yea you make a killer point !!
Pun intended? Lol
05-19-2013 04:21 PM
Nobozos84 Lol, good point !!! I don't plan on getting under the rig without jack stands and ramps under it but heck yea you make a killer point !!
05-19-2013 04:16 PM
m998dna
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Originally Posted by Nobozos84 View Post
$500.00 plus for a Hein-Werner floor jack, yikes ! I bet it's the best but way over my budget.
How much is your group medical plan deductible? ...

pay me now, pay me later...

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05-19-2013 04:14 PM
Wrangler Wrassler Honestly, Harbor Freight is hit and miss as far as quality. I got an air compressor from there that crapped out on me in about 6 months. Then again, I've bought a lot of hand tools and miscellaneous stuff there and it is just as good as the name brand stuff. Honestly, I liken it to shopping at Save-a-Lot vs. Kroger. You can save money and find comparable, quality products there, however if you know what you really want and all, spend the extra on what appears to be the superior product.
05-19-2013 03:56 PM
Nobozos84 $500.00 plus for a Hein-Werner floor jack, yikes ! I bet it's the best but way over my budget.
05-19-2013 03:44 PM
Nobozos84 I live by a harbor freight in Pittsburgh Pa. I liken them to the dollar store, am I wrong ? I thought their stuff was garbage ? Just an opinion based on things people say, I've been in there, haven't bought anything though. Is it quality stuff that's just super cheap ?
05-19-2013 03:17 PM
Ex Umbris Currus Harbor Freight high lift floor jack and 6 ton jack stands.
05-19-2013 03:10 PM
m998dna Safety first... research where its manufactured before making your decision.

If you want a good hydraulic floor jack and stands, look at Hein Werner.

The heritage can be traced back to the original Walker brand used by many automotive service centers and professionals.

I have an original Walker I bought new in the 70's.

Hein-Werner Automotive

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05-19-2013 02:57 PM
woansleftpeg I got a three ton jack at Lowes for about $45, my JKU weighs in at about 4400lbs which I figure means that if I lift one end up, I've got a bit over a ton sitting on a jack rated for three.
05-19-2013 02:57 PM
SilverSport
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Originally Posted by TrueBlueJK View Post
Harbor Freight has become my friend over the years.
X2. Harbor Freight floor jack.
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