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Today 12:14 AM
Jeepalicious
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Originally Posted by G54 View Post
I always wave first. If they dont wave back it only irritates me if I know they saw me cuz they looked right at me. Then I want to "wave" again minus four fingers...

But I dont. Might get shot.
Lol - my husband (shares weekend Jeep custody) will occasionally flip the wave to a bird when a jeep passes sans wave - they are long gone by that time but it always cracks me up! He's just not nice but he IS the one that taught me to wave (he had a YJ back in '98).
Yesterday 04:32 PM
flowerfistandbestialwail I wave at least 95% of the time whether I initiate or not. I'm excited to be driving my jeep so I pick all the other jeeps on the road out without even really trying. I don't consider it very exclusive or judgmental to just not wave at the people who pretty clearly don't care. If they happen to wave then great, I'd return it, but I've never once received a wave from a driver I've assessed as not being a Jeeper. Gotten lots of returns from people who seem confused like they don't know about the wave yet, but that's a different story and not at all who I'm referring to
Yesterday 04:22 PM
Cherilyn I'm in Melbourne Beach, FL for the weekend and everyone here enthusiastically waves!
It's a nice change from the gulf side of Florida where I live.
Yesterday 04:15 PM
KittyPrawn
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Originally Posted by flowerfistandbestialwail View Post
You seem to be treating all of these comments as really personal, and that's odd to me. We all space out and miss waves. No one's denying that or painting people who do in a bad light. I wouldn't be offended if I spaced out and someone opted not to wave to me because I didn't look like a Jeeper to them in that moment. I'm not offended when I wave and drivers don't seem to see me. Don't care, it happens. I'm talking about the drivers who are clearly engaged in their surroundings (not spacing out) and look at other jeeps like they're any other vehicle on the road. They clearly don't get it, and I'm not going to give them a wave of acknowledgement because they very obviously don't share that spirit. It's pretty clear the difference between and very difficult to confuse distracted drivers and drivers who just don't care that they drive a jeep.
You're reading into me. I'm not taking it personally. I just find that this community gets really judgmental, when is always thought the Jeep community was supposed to be open and warm and accepting.

Maybe it's just me, but I'm not paying enough attention to the other driver of a Jeep to know whether they are engaged or distracted. Maybe I just need to wear my glasses when I'm driving.

The only point I'm trying to make is... Who cares if they get it or are part of the culture or not. You really don't know. Maybe they want to be, but weren't informed about the wave. Just wave and more people may end up inclined to join in.

Making excuses to ignore another Jeep, whatever it is, is just alienating people for no real reason, especially since it really doesn't take much effort to lift some fingers off a steering wheel. It takes more effort to decide if they're going to wave back and are "worthy" of acknowledging,
Yesterday 04:01 PM
flowerfistandbestialwail
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Originally Posted by KittyPrawn View Post
I spaced out yesterday at a stop light. Completely spaced out. Staring ahead, hands on the wheel, lost in thoughts. I noticed last second out of the corner of my eye that white JK drove by with his hand out the window. I did not respond. Should I be considered with the group of people who don't care because of this instance? Again, you really can't tell what people are about based on a quick interaction.
You seem to be treating all of these comments as really personal, and that's odd to me. We all space out and miss waves. No one's denying that or painting people who do in a bad light. I wouldn't be offended if I spaced out and someone opted not to wave to me because I didn't look like a Jeeper to them in that moment. I'm not offended when I wave and drivers don't seem to see me. Don't care, it happens. I'm talking about the drivers who are clearly engaged in their surroundings (not spacing out) and look at other jeeps like they're any other vehicle on the road. They clearly don't get it, and I'm not going to give them a wave of acknowledgement because they very obviously don't share that spirit. It's pretty clear the difference between and very difficult to confuse distracted drivers and drivers who just don't care that they drive a jeep.
Yesterday 03:35 PM
KittyPrawn I spaced out yesterday at a stop light. Completely spaced out. Staring ahead, hands on the wheel, lost in thoughts.

I noticed last second out of the corner of my eye that white JK drove by with his hand out the window. I did not respond.

Should I be considered with the group of people who don't care because of this instance?

Again, you really can't tell what people are about based on a quick interaction.
Yesterday 03:29 PM
flowerfistandbestialwail
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Originally Posted by KittyPrawn View Post
Sure. I won't disagree. But how can you really tell the difference between those people when driving in opposite directions with a quick glance? How do you know that someone didn't return a friendly gesture or just didn't see or couldn't respond to a friendly gesture?
It's rarely just a *quick* glance. If we're headed opposite directions I can see a jeep quite a ways off more often than not. I think being "unable" to respond to a friendly gesture is kind of a crap excuse. Lots of times I've gotten grins or quick nods from other folks who couldn't or didn't want to take their hands off the wheel. It's not so much about the wave itself as it is the spirit of it, and I think lots of folks just aren't interested in making the effort with people who seem very clearly to not get the spirit of jeeping. And that seems fair to me. Waving isn't mandatory, it's something we do cause we're excited to see folks who clearly share our interest and acknowledge that. So with that in mind it really doesn't make any sense that we would wave to people who clearly don't - like the folks who look straight at you and look at you like any other vehicle on the road and not recognizing you as another jeep.
Yesterday 03:22 PM
Kimi725 You can't say for sure in some instances. But like G ^ said, you KNOW when someone sees you. Some people are just asshats.
Yesterday 03:17 PM
KittyPrawn
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Originally Posted by Kimi725 View Post
I will agree that there are a number of things to pay attention to while driving. But even when I am having a crap day and my mood is bad, I still have the kindness to pay attention to friendly gestures. Everyone misses a jeep wave, but the difference I think, is those who wave first and those who wave if and when they catch someone else wave first. Different types of people.
Sure. I won't disagree. But how can you really tell the difference between those people when driving in opposite directions with a quick glance?

How do you know that someone didn't return a friendly gesture or just didn't see or couldn't respond to a friendly gesture?
Yesterday 03:06 PM
JeepInTheSand I wave at every Wrangler I see. That said, I'm sure there are a lot that pass me that I don't see or don't notice in time to wave. There are a ton of Jeeps here on the coast. It does seem that open tops, lifted, modded Jeeps wave more often but then again they are more noticeable. I seldom get a return wave from a female. I do get a lot from JKUs but that's what I'm driving too.
Yesterday 02:55 PM
G54 I always wave first. If they dont wave back it only irritates me if I know they saw me cuz they looked right at me. Then I want to "wave" again minus four fingers...

But I dont. Might get shot.
Yesterday 02:47 PM
Kimi725 I will agree that there are a number of things to pay attention to while driving. But even when I am having a crap day and my mood is bad, I still have the kindness to pay attention to friendly gestures. Everyone misses a jeep wave, but the difference I think, is those who wave first and those who wave if and when they catch someone else wave first. Different types of people.
Yesterday 02:36 PM
KittyPrawn
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Originally Posted by Kimi725 View Post
No. Not really. LoL Jeep wave is a culture thing. We wave because we share a love of jeeping. Those who don't wave just don't get it. It separates US from THEM
If that's what you want to tell yourself. There are tons of reasons someone may not have waved back, and not necessarily a "they don't get it" thing. There are a lot of things to pay attention to while driving. I've missed plenty of waves.

That doesn't mean I don't love Jeeps. It just means I had other thing going on. People get this mindset that automatically people who don't wave are "soccer moms" or "mall crawlers" or whatever else put down they want to come with.

Simply, you don't know what going on in the other vehicle to assume they just don't want anything to do with jeep culture.

I won't disagree that there are probably people who either don't know or don't care. But, there is no way you can know that based on return waves or number of mods or whatever silly gauge comes up next month.
Yesterday 01:57 PM
Pittsburghwrangler
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Originally Posted by BostonStrong77 View Post
I wave at every Wrangler I see and there's this one JKU that I see almost every day and wave at. After months of non-wave encounters, she finally waved back. Hopefully word is getting around. Incidentally, I also got my first middle finger when waving at a jacked up JK the other day. Douchebag high schooler flipped me off when I waved. Almost pulled a U turn to give him a lesson in Jeep etiquette!
I would've gone batshit
Yesterday 11:10 AM
Jeepalicious
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Originally Posted by BostonStrong77 View Post
I wave at every Wrangler I see and there's this one JKU that I see almost every day and wave at. After months of non-wave encounters, she finally waved back. Hopefully word is getting around. Incidentally, I also got my first middle finger when waving at a jacked up JK the other day. Douchebag high schooler flipped me off when I waved. Almost pulled a U turn to give him a lesson in Jeep etiquette!
Lmao - "You WILL be cordial & wave dammit" - Tough Love Jeep style!!! I like it!!!
Yesterday 09:44 AM
roberthleeii
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Originally Posted by BostonStrong77 View Post
I wave at every Wrangler I see and there's this one JKU that I see almost every day and wave at. After months of non-wave encounters, she finally waved back. Hopefully word is getting around. Incidentally, I also got my first middle finger when waving at a jacked up JK the other day. Douchebag high schooler flipped me off when I waved. Almost pulled a U turn to give him a lesson in Jeep etiquette!


This is an inspirational story!! (not getting flipped off) We need more stories like this. I feel if you follow the points system, I don't, you should get 200 points for teaching the wave by example!!!!

As for the other part of your story.... well I will stay politically correct and not agree or disagree with you
Yesterday 09:05 AM
Kimi725
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Originally Posted by 1monday View Post

Really?
No. Not really. LoL
Jeep wave is a culture thing. We wave because we share a love of jeeping. Those who don't wave just don't get it. It separates US from THEM
Yesterday 08:55 AM
Cameraman
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Originally Posted by BostonStrong77 View Post
I wave at every Wrangler I see and there's this one JKU that I see almost every day and wave at. After months of non-wave encounters, she finally waved back. Hopefully word is getting around. Incidentally, I also got my first middle finger when waving at a jacked up JK the other day. Douchebag high schooler flipped me off when I waved. Almost pulled a U turn to give him a lesson in Jeep etiquette!
IMO....Sounds like a snot nose spoiled brat. Mommy and daddy give the little turd anything he wants so they won't have to deal with his temper tantrums.
Yesterday 08:49 AM
BostonStrong77 I wave at every Wrangler I see and there's this one JKU that I see almost every day and wave at. After months of non-wave encounters, she finally waved back. Hopefully word is getting around. Incidentally, I also got my first middle finger when waving at a jacked up JK the other day. Douchebag high schooler flipped me off when I waved. Almost pulled a U turn to give him a lesson in Jeep etiquette!
Yesterday 07:26 AM
1monday
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Originally Posted by KittyPrawn View Post

I feel like people take the wave as a need for attention and acknowledgement.
Sounds like a bunch of Jeeps losing out on the Jeep wave just because they're scared they won't get acknowledged.
Really?
Yesterday 05:47 AM
Gord P
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Originally Posted by AltitudeAttitude View Post
They usually do. However, we will be getting vanity plates in September of 2015. I wish it was sooner...I'd get "FK U QBK".




I wave regardless...but only to other Wranglers.

I was working in Ottawa for a year and a half before moving back here end of March. Good trails there or close by?

I may be heading up this weekend.
There are supposed to be some really nice trails up in the Calebogie area but I haven't been yet. I've heard awesome reports from some different people about it.
08-29-2014 10:19 PM
Desert rats I wave all the time but hardly anyone waves out here
08-29-2014 10:19 PM
flowerfistandbestialwail
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Originally Posted by KittyPrawn View Post
Can I just ask... Why does it matter so much if they don't wave back? Why not just wave at all Jeeps and be on your way? I feel like people take the wave as a need for attention and acknowledgement. Just wave and don't take it so personal if they miss the return. What if the other Jeeps you see are also waiting for the other to initiate? Sounds like a bunch of Jeeps losing out on the Jeep wave just because they're scared they won't get acknowledged.
It doesn't really matter if I do get a wave back or not. It's not about attention to me, it's about acknowledging a common interest with folks around me. I wave at nearly every jeep I see, but if someone driving another jeep is very clearly disinterested in me and mine or otherwise distracted I'm not going to take my focus from the road for another split second to try and share a moment with someone who clearly isn't a Jeeper. That's all. I don't care who initiates (that silly point system is just that - silly) and probably more often than not I'm the first to wave, but for me it's about saying a little hello and acknowledging another Jeeper and our shared passion, so I'm not waving at the folks for whom the jeep is clearly *just* a vehicle they drive.
08-29-2014 10:12 PM
ArmyofMike I wave 90% of the time...and many a time I don't get a wave back. I really don't care if they don't, cause everything is awesome, everything is cool when you're part of a Jeep team!

Most embarrassing part is my Wifey making fun of me for waving whether I get a response or not!
08-29-2014 09:47 PM
KittyPrawn
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Originally Posted by flowerfistandbestialwail View Post
This is awesome!! Don't stop waving! I don't know of anyone who won't at least wave BACK to JKs even if they don't wave to them! It's more just we see a trend in not getting waves back from people who don't "get" driving a Jeep so it's not worth the bother than it is about snubbing the people in JKs who are stoked to be driving a jeep! I wave back to anyone who initiates, and I'm definitely learning that in my neck of the woods it's just as likely a female driver or BEASTLY rig won't return a wave as a JK so my new rule is to wave back if it's initiated, and otherwise just wave when I see my jeep being eyeballed by another jeep driver - if a JK or female driver doesn't look like they recognize that they're passing another jeep I don't bother - they either don't "get" it or they don't see me and either way I'm not likely to get a wave return
Can I just ask... Why does it matter so much if they don't wave back? Why not just wave at all Jeeps and be on your way? I feel like people take the wave as a need for attention and acknowledgement. Just wave and don't take it so personal if they miss the return.

What if the other Jeeps you see are also waiting for the other to initiate? Sounds like a bunch of Jeeps losing out on the Jeep wave just because they're scared they won't get acknowledged.
08-29-2014 05:21 PM
flowerfistandbestialwail
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Originally Posted by SerenityNow View Post
It kind of saddens me when I read that unModded Jeeps aren't worthy of a wave. I have a stock JK that I LOVE! I would love to be able to take it off road, but right now my money is tied up. I'm also an older female with no access to anyone to help me learn, that's why I'm on this forum. However, I wave at all Wranglers and think the point systems is a lot of fun. One day, my points will raise, but until then, wave at me! I love you Wrangler wranglers!
This is awesome!! Don't stop waving! I don't know of anyone who won't at least wave BACK to JKs even if they don't wave to them! It's more just we see a trend in not getting waves back from people who don't "get" driving a Jeep so it's not worth the bother than it is about snubbing the people in JKs who are stoked to be driving a jeep! I wave back to anyone who initiates, and I'm definitely learning that in my neck of the woods it's just as likely a female driver or BEASTLY rig won't return a wave as a JK so my new rule is to wave back if it's initiated, and otherwise just wave when I see my jeep being eyeballed by another jeep driver - if a JK or female driver doesn't look like they recognize that they're passing another jeep I don't bother - they either don't "get" it or they don't see me and either way I'm not likely to get a wave return
08-29-2014 02:35 PM
SerenityNow It kind of saddens me when I read that unModded Jeeps aren't worthy of a wave. I have a stock JK that I LOVE! I would love to be able to take it off road, but right now my money is tied up. I'm also an older female with no access to anyone to help me learn, that's why I'm on this forum. However, I wave at all Wranglers and think the point systems is a lot of fun. One day, my points will raise, but until then, wave at me! I love you Wrangler wranglers!
08-29-2014 01:55 PM
Michel347 I was in Turks and Caicos last week and rent a JK while we were there. Saw a couple of other Wranglers, not sure if it's because they don't see too many on that small Island, but you should have seen their waves, they get really exited, they were almost coming out of their Jeep to wave, half seated, half standing-up, one hand out by the window the other over the windshield, ... I was so surprised when I saw the first one getting so exited that I forgot to wave back, he must have been really dissapointed, ...lol
08-28-2014 08:15 PM
1monday ooo ooo ooo...I got a wave today!!! ...from a modded TJ in the yuppie side of town (I think that's why I never get waves...I'm either in the hood, or in yuppieville...no waves from either crowd, not that there are any Jeeps in the hood (sorry, no offense meant to anyone living in the aforementioned places))
08-28-2014 06:45 PM
copperhead_1
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Originally Posted by Jeepalicious View Post
Um, except you Copperhead, we wave at you because you are irresistible - You drive a Jeep? We hadn't even noticed. (Did that help?) Seriously, I'd have ALOT of explaining to do to my husband if Jeep wave = flirting! Then again, maybe I'm not getting return waves because (gasp) I'm old & no longer hot?! Bummer & I agree FlowersWail did nail it!
YES!!! I knew it! Thank you, Jeepalicious!! And I would return your wave everytime.

But seriously it's awesome to see how many people here do wave. I am not kidding when I say one of the things I enjoy most about driving a jeep is waving at other jeeps. I'm waving at everybody!
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