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01-02-2014 03:05 PM
Doc3613 I used this one from tuffy...made for a radio but with a little modification it works and locks

Attachment 633257
01-02-2014 01:48 PM
scoutermike
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Originally Posted by Survivalbiker View Post
I'm piecing my cb kit together and just installed the radio in an overhead console. I just have to pick an antenna kit, any suggestions?
What kind of overhead console do you have?
08-22-2013 07:02 AM
KentuckyMike 3' Wilson Flex, is what I put on mine. No complaints here.
08-06-2013 06:21 AM
Survivalbiker I'm piecing my cb kit together and just installed the radio in an overhead console. I just have to pick an antenna kit, any suggestions?
08-23-2012 08:59 AM
Smitty4x4
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Originally Posted by hookuspookus
A purist ? thats the funniest thing i've heard
I know, I know. I couldn't think of a better way to describe it. I haven't heard HAM guys with overmodulated Grand Canyon echo radios that can be heard five channels off frequency and there are very few old school CB guys around anymore. It is why I have been considering getting a HAM license.
08-22-2012 09:06 PM
hookuspookus
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Originally Posted by Smitty4x4 View Post
No. For trail riders it is best IMO to have all the radios stock. They are aligned and tuned properly at the factory. The guys are all within range and sound the same so radio traffic is pleasant. They are not really "tuning". They are attempting to make it do more than designed. You can make it sound louder but to me it's obnoxious. I can and have done some of it but don't like it. Truck drivers are the ones that do it the most. Most of us have heard the obnoxious radio that blows you out of the cab. The one talking swears it sounds good and you cannot convince them otherwise. You can't gain any real distance without real power. If you generate more swing without a good carrier signal the guy with a little stock radio cannot hear you well at a distance anyway. I say leave it to the truckers. You don't see that kind of stuff in the HAM or CB radio purist community. So far all the offroaders I have been around are a polite community that frowns on being obnoxious. Just my $.02
The antenna has the largest influence on how well it works, especially on a Jeep.
A purist ? thats the funniest thing i've heard
08-20-2012 03:36 PM
cphilip Going to add this here because it may come up some time and save someone a lot of trouble.

If you use a Firestick (or maybe similar) "Heavy Duty Stud Mount" like their K-4A Model. Make double darn sure you get the flat and lock washers and the nylon washer in the right orientation. Otherwise you will get poor to none receive or send but yet get real good SWR readings.

They all go on top.

On the Antenna screw on side - NOT the Cable screw on side.

And from top to bottom its Lock, Flat, Nylon

I just got through completely going back through an install including removing and replacing the unit (a Cobra 75 Wx hand held) only to find out that the new Radio I installed also had good SWR but poor receive too! However this unit had a "Antenna Check" test that showed "failed". So I knew then I was onto something other than a bad radio. Replacing the cable and double checking the ground connection found nothing. Finally realized I had installed the washers all backwards. I was able to dig the back of the package out of the trash and look at the diagram and low and behold I had reversed it. I had put them all on the bottom. 180 degrees wrong. Flipping them back to the top fixed the problem. This wrong orientation was probably grounding the wrong portion of the cable and that was the problem. Good ground was present but it was in the wrong place.

So double check that and realize that this is an important portion of their mounts install.

See diagram.

http://www.firestik.com/Instl-Art/te-k-4a.gif
08-20-2012 05:31 AM
Smitty4x4
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Originally Posted by terrible2 View Post
Now what ive also heard is that you can also tune your radio, is there any device we need to do this? I hear that the radio guy opens up the cb hooks up something, turns a screw and then is finished. The reason why im asking if I can do it myself is because I hear it costs $15-$20, my CB only cost $15 I dont think its really worth it to invest double the amount for such a cheap radio
No. For trail riders it is best IMO to have all the radios stock. They are aligned and tuned properly at the factory. The guys are all within range and sound the same so radio traffic is pleasant. They are not really "tuning". They are attempting to make it do more than designed. You can make it sound louder but to me it's obnoxious. I can and have done some of it but don't like it. Truck drivers are the ones that do it the most. Most of us have heard the obnoxious radio that blows you out of the cab. The one talking swears it sounds good and you cannot convince them otherwise. You can't gain any real distance without real power. If you generate more swing without a good carrier signal the guy with a little stock radio cannot hear you well at a distance anyway. I say leave it to the truckers. You don't see that kind of stuff in the HAM or CB radio purist community. So far all the offroaders I have been around are a polite community that frowns on being obnoxious. Just my $.02
The antenna has the largest influence on how well it works, especially on a Jeep.
11-24-2011 08:13 PM
Doc3613
Swr

A little late I know. I have a 2010 jk, antenna mount on stock spare tire bracket. My swr on 40 was a 5 and on 1 was 3.5. couldnt get it lower. I switched to a k40 antenna and ran a 10 gauge wire from bracket to frame. I cut the wip an inch at a time and got swr to 1.3 on 40 and flat on 1. If your swr is higher on 40 than channel 1 then you need to shorten if it higher on 1 than on 40 you need it longer. I ran 18 feet of coax.
11-18-2010 10:49 PM
hookuspookus
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Originally Posted by stevens243 View Post
Ok, bear with me here. I'm trying to help and learn at the same time...

What is that antenna light for?

When you removed the washer, did the SWR come down into the green?

Do you have a multimeter available?
the light means your swr's are to high you want to make your swr's 0 ,is it mounted on the bumper ? wrong place !yeah i know thats where they mount them but its the wrong place ! stick antennas are garbage like the firestick (junk) the frances (junk) k-40 (junk) 102"steel whip(junk) if you are really set on a stick , 6" wilson silver load or the wilson 1000 roof top mount, real easy to set the swr's . the reason they mount them on the rear bumper is because the hood is fiberglass . i talk to belgium ,england the north pole to the falkland islands and austrailia from my jeep . is your radio only 40 chnl's did you know you can make it 120 chnls ? RCI-2950 and a radio shack trc-465 those are my choice of radio's. and that red light can mean you have a dead short . the wilson 1000 is a 10 meter ham radio ant. that adjusts to the 11 meter cb band with ease the antenna your using looks like an antique i can't wait to see how much mail i get from this post ! world wide 529 new jersey channel 38 lower side band
02-25-2010 07:27 PM
Bignuke Thanks, I finally got it to work... I have a new antenna, seems to be 4' long.. as you said. Thanks though.
02-12-2010 06:30 PM
g-man call or go to this website, they may be able to help or refer you to someone in your area, they are the only people i let work on my radios, been in buisness 15yrs that i know of. i had similar problem try changing to an antenna that needs less ground, like a fransis 4' cb24b, thats what i had to do. Steel rod's cb shop
219-261-2201
Steel Rod's C.B. Shop - Home
12-11-2009 04:18 PM
Jerry Bransford Use a SWR meter to tune the antenna (set its length) for minimum SWR on channel 20 which is is the mid-point in the CB's band of frequencies. That will provide proper tuning for the antenna for the entire CB band from channels 1 to 40. Tuning the antenna for minimum SWR allows the antenna to transmit all of the power your CB is capable of producing.
12-11-2009 10:39 AM
Bignuke I still haven't fixed... I picked up a new Coax cable so I might go replace the one I have now.

Can anyone inform me what to do to test it? Go to channel 1 then what and all that? Please
11-04-2009 06:16 PM
terrible2 2 months. Itll be a while= )
11-04-2009 03:42 PM
stevens243 Sure, when you gonna be around?
11-04-2009 09:50 AM
terrible2 Well that firestik website has the procedures, but I dont have all the same knobs. I got the manual off the website, but never really found out how to work it. Im coming to SD soon, want to help?
11-03-2009 07:41 PM
stevens243 Pull the cap off your antenna. There will be coiled wire under the cap.

Assuming that you plug the SWR meter into the radio and antenna connection to the radio and key to get your SWR, you'll have to shorten your antenna. Just by snipping a short amount of wire off and re-checking the SWR, you can tune the antenna to the radio.

The procedures for what channel to start with are there too.
11-03-2009 07:26 PM
terrible2 I have a SWR meter, I tried tuning it today, no success. I have KW Firestik and I believe according to the Firestik website to unwind some coils by making a slit into the plastic rubber on the Antenna. But Jerry made it seem like I would have to actually cut part of the antenna.
11-03-2009 01:16 AM
bigskydrift
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Originally Posted by terrible2 View Post
I understand that your CB needs to be tuned to your Antenna, which I will soon be doing with my Cobra DX IV and 3' Firestik (KW series). Ill need to take a hacksaw or dremel cutter and do 1/2" cuts correct? Now what ive also heard is that you can also tune your radio, is there any device we need to do this? I hear that the radio guy opens up the cb hooks up something, turns a screw and then is finished. The reason why im asking if I can do it myself is because I hear it costs $15-$20, my CB only cost $15 I dont think its really worth it to invest double the amount for such a cheap radio
back up two posts to thread # 32 and click on the link, there is tons of info here and elsewhere on the net......
11-02-2009 05:53 PM
terrible2 I understand that your CB needs to be tuned to your Antenna, which I will soon be doing with my Cobra DX IV and 3' Firestik (KW series). Ill need to take a hacksaw or dremel cutter and do 1/2" cuts correct? Now what ive also heard is that you can also tune your radio, is there any device we need to do this? I hear that the radio guy opens up the cb hooks up something, turns a screw and then is finished. The reason why im asking if I can do it myself is because I hear it costs $15-$20, my CB only cost $15 I dont think its really worth it to invest double the amount for such a cheap radio
10-26-2009 07:35 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by bigskydrift View Post
I am preparing for an installation of a Uniden 520 with a Firefly FL4......
As I am waiting for a couple items on order, have been doing some research and found this on the Firestik website, a wealth of CB information...
Tech-Docs Index
True, there's lots of good information except where Firestik perpetuates the myth that 18' of coax cable is needed to obtain the lowest possible SWR. With the types of unbalanced antennas we install on our Jeeps, you only need to run the length of cable needed to connect the radio to the antenna with a few extra feet so you can install new connectors in the future if needed without the need to install new cable too. The coax cable length used truly has no effect on this type of antenna's SWR.
10-20-2009 01:00 PM
bigskydrift I am preparing for an installation of a Uniden 520 with a Firefly FL4......
As I am waiting for a couple items on order, have been doing some research and found this on the Firestik website, a wealth of CB information...
Tech-Docs Index
09-25-2009 02:07 PM
SoCal147
link to Right Channel

http://rightchannelradios.com
09-23-2009 04:13 PM
SoCal147 Never did here the end result from BigNuke..........?
09-23-2009 03:48 PM
SoCal147 More Pictures
#1 4' Wilson antenna. Yellow strip at top is the top of the antenna.
#2 Modded Mount with mount tape showing. I did this to protect the paint and to help secure the antenna. It aint going no where.
#3 Another toy
#4 Yet another toy.

I will never grow old. Just watch me.
09-23-2009 03:42 PM
SoCal147 some installed pictures.
09-23-2009 03:27 PM
SoCal147
Happy Customer and Forum Member

Bought the Jeep Uniden 510 kit from Right Channel Radio. The only issue was I ordered the wrong antenna mount. After some slight mount modification [cutting and grinding] I attached the antenna mount to one of the stock tire carrier bolt holes. I had great continuity to ground. Installed the rest of the components. The hardest decision to make was were to mount the radio. Drove out to an open space and followed the directions given above. I got 1.8 on channel 1 and 1.6 on channel 40. Good enough for me. The wrench that came with the WIlson antenna would not bite into the set screw anyways. Either way, the radio worked fine from the get go. Thanks for the above info all.

Patrick
06-27-2009 05:08 PM
Jerry Bransford One more note to add when trimming lengths of wire that comes out of the top of Firestik's more basic antennas that do not have the brass tuning tip. Cutting 2" of wire off at a time is too much length to be cut off all at once. Cutting 2" off might mean you went past the point of minimum SWR and you'd never know it. Instead, I'd be cutting more like 1/2" lengths off at the most. The antenna length at which minimum SWR is achieved is fairly critical and it's easy to miss by adjusting its length too much at a time.

One more thing... most cases of high SWR that can't be tuned down as expected are usually a result of the mount having either been misassembled or it not having been grounded well enough to the tub. The mount must have an adequate surface area of bare steel to bare steel connection so that usually means grinding paint off whatever you're mounting it to.

And a misassembled mount usually results from having either left the nylon/plastic insulated shoulder washer off, or not getting it installed and centered properly. The insulated shoulder washer's purpose is to insulate the whip part of the antenna from the mount. If the antenna itself touches the mount, the antenna will be shorted to ground and a very high SWR will be the result.

The below illustration shows a typical antenna mount and how it should be assembled. Take particular care in seeing where and how the insulated shoulder washer is supposed to be installed.
05-27-2009 11:09 PM
crashedking The light tells him that there is reflected power. This only works for a generic VSWR meter and if the radio has not been tweaked, it will be reliable. The light never turns green. The nylon washers separate the center conductor to the ground. You must have no connection from the center conductor to the ground. This type of antenna does not have a capacitor, and should read no continuity center to ground on the radio connector. Your Antenna selection is not the best for this application. Because behind your soft top is your role bar, it runs parallel with the top load antenna. You will never achieve the best match because when you drive and the antenna moves it will radiate to your ground. The role bar and the power being radiated will cause high reflected power, the red light. This does not mean that this antenna will not work there. I cant tell what type of fitting you have from the pict. (The lower fitting). Leave the antenna connected to the bracket, disconnect the PL259 connector from the radio, take a OHM meter, what does it read across the center conductor to the barrel ground? Hopefully no beep or continuity. Nice bracket and CB. Who installed the PL259 connector on the radio side is it crimp or three piece? Your problem can be solved easily. Quit cutting the antenna, you may have ruined it. Start with what I have told you first.
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