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06-11-2013 04:10 PM
DaK Okay, let us start planning something. Got a guy from another board interested in going out as well. What date work's best?

My plan will be to meet at the ranger station at Red Rock near the Red Rock General store. Then we can either go into the park via Last Chance or Goler Gulch. Time will be 0800 at the ranger station.
06-01-2013 08:42 PM
DaK One of those days will work.
06-01-2013 08:28 PM
KLW24 Thanks Dak - not sure why I keep calling that Goler Wash - bee na while since I have been out there - 15th is out for me but maybe another weekend like June 22 or 23?

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You mean Goler Gulch, the canyon up Charlie Rd. Correct? Goler Wash is in DV. Semantics I know but distinctly two different places. This guy Goler got around this area back in his day. Lots of places and streets named after him. Little write up on the area for those that have never been:

Goler, CA | Death Valley Jim's Desert AdventuresDeath Valley Jim's Desert Adventures

Yes have done those, nice little trail that leads back to some nice structures and mines. Very picturesque back there. Shame of it is that the mine and camp on the way to the gulch has been trashed and there is trash all over but apparently Ridgecrest BLM stepped up and cleaned that up.

Desert Cleanup - Goler Gulch

This may warrant an early morning run on the weekend of the 15th to check out and do a little more foot exploring.
05-31-2013 06:12 AM
DaK
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cool thanks for clarifying that. BTW have you done Goler Wash and 'The Narrows'...I have 3 times with the Disco, one of thoise my 18 year old son was driving - all without even a scratch! Have not taken the Jeep yet so that would be a good run...

You mean Goler Gulch, the canyon up Charlie Rd. Correct? Goler Wash is in DV. Semantics I know but distinctly two different places. This guy Goler got around this area back in his day. Lots of places and streets named after him. Little write up on the area for those that have never been:

Goler, CA | Death Valley Jim's Desert AdventuresDeath Valley Jim's Desert Adventures

Yes have done those, nice little trail that leads back to some nice structures and mines. Very picturesque back there. Shame of it is that the mine and camp on the way to the gulch has been trashed and there is trash all over but apparently Ridgecrest BLM stepped up and cleaned that up.

Desert Cleanup - Goler Gulch

This may warrant an early morning run on the weekend of the 15th to check out and do a little more foot exploring.
05-30-2013 11:21 PM
KLW24 cool thanks for clarifying that. BTW have you done Goler Wash and 'The Narrows'...I have 3 times with the Disco, one of thoise my 18 year old son was driving - all without even a scratch! Have not taken the Jeep yet so that would be a good run...
05-30-2013 06:54 AM
DaK
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Raptor aka Condor

FACT - Raptors of the Region

Area is open again July 2 - but motorized vehicles allowed through the gate 15th - end of month.

I have been up there a few times and have only seen the birds flying along the cliffs once.

I have timed my trips to end at sunset there as the entire canyon totally lights up in several sunset colors - highly recommended!
Okay I see your meaning... Have seen Red tails and several species of owls as well. There is a golden eagle that hangs out in the winter time on Garlock Road as well. That is one big bird.

Nightmare canyon, the one that is closed for Raptor nesting, is closed the 1 THROUGH the 15th of the month. Made the trip several times on the 15th to find the gates locked. Ranger clarified that it is THROUGH the 15th so open the 16th through the end of the month to vehicle traffic.

There is still plenty to see and do in Red Rock. Couple of weeks ago we played, "what is down this road?", lots of buildings, mines and other structures to visit.

Then there is McIver's cabin on the West side of the 14. This is a fire road. Good day trip.
05-30-2013 12:40 AM
KLW24 one caveat to my previous comment about the capability of your rig; the driver should be just as 'capable' as the rig if not more so - I have learned that lesson a couple times.

I highly recommend contacting Tom Severin and taking an "Off Road 101" course with him - my son and I did this a few years ago and it really gave us the important basics of safe off roading.

4WD Instructor Background

PS: my first 4x4 ride was a 2003 Land Rover Disco in mint condition and I quickly realized I had to accept the fact that as soon as my tires hit dirt I could no longer expect pretty, and 'pinstripes' became a badge of honor - I'm just sayin'...

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You all are speaking my language I am looking to explore more than anything right now. My jeep is also my DD, so I don't want to screw anything up at this point (she needs to stay pretty )

I will start searching the suggestions mentioned above. The tunnel and mine run sounds sweet. If you all go to any of these soon, let me know. I will do the same.
05-30-2013 12:32 AM
KLW24 Raptor aka Condor

FACT - Raptors of the Region

Area is open again July 2 - but motorized vehicles allowed through the gate 15th - end of month.

I have been up there a few times and have only seen the birds flying along the cliffs once.

I have timed my trips to end at sunset there as the entire canyon totally lights up in several sunset colors - highly recommended!


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Where is Red Rock is this Condor Preserve? I know where the Raptor preserve is located but have never heard of the Condor Preserve out that way.
05-29-2013 01:00 AM
aharris41 You all are speaking my language I am looking to explore more than anything right now. My jeep is also my DD, so I don't want to screw anything up at this point (she needs to stay pretty )

I will start searching the suggestions mentioned above. The tunnel and mine run sounds sweet. If you all go to any of these soon, let me know. I will do the same.
05-27-2013 09:03 PM
mountainneer Count me in for a Red Rock Trip if you guys plan something...
05-27-2013 06:16 AM
DaK
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Hello Aharris41

Depending on time of year the Condor preserve at Red Rock is pretty cool and a great place for kids to explore.
Where is Red Rock is this Condor Preserve? I know where the Raptor preserve is located but have never heard of the Condor Preserve out that way.
05-27-2013 01:44 AM
KLW24 Hello Aharris41

Hungry Valley OHV is a great place to gain basic 4x4 skills. Its a short drive from SCV. Also as mountaneer mentioned, Mojave has several newbie runs - your jeep is more than capable of making Last Chance Canyon, or up through Jawbone Cyn and over to Red Rock etc. Depending on time of year the Condor preserve at Red Rock is pretty cool and a great place for kids to explore. Im in Canyon Country so we should head out soon.
05-26-2013 11:18 PM
mountainneer Some of our trips are easy dirt roads just out exploring. I usually plan trips around something to see or explore.

A neat easy trip is to the Burro Schmidt Tunnel and Bickel Camp. You can explore the tunnel and the old minning camps.
05-26-2013 10:49 PM
aharris41
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Aharris41,

Welcome to the forum...I'm in Valencia. Let me know when your going out. Always looking to get out...

Ryan
Thanks, will definitely reach when it's time. I am not ready and not sure if I want to do anything serious. I found out yesterday that I just like being out. Easy fire road is my speed at this point
05-26-2013 10:29 AM
mountainneer Aharris41,

Welcome to the forum...I'm in Valencia. Let me know when your going out. Always looking to get out...

Ryan
05-25-2013 03:47 PM
aharris41 Went out this morning with the family. Thanks for the suggestion. Good time out. I tried to make it over to Haskell, but after making a left to head down, it was a dead end. More to come
05-25-2013 10:02 AM
crittert Hit me up anytime. I know these fire roads like the back of my hand.
05-25-2013 01:10 AM
aharris41 Perfect. I will still hold you to a tour now day
05-24-2013 08:26 PM
DaK Good thing you sent him up the fire road. The "short cut" is not something a n00b should be doing without someone around.
05-24-2013 06:23 PM
crittert Hey I totally get it. Here is a GPS coordinate to the entrance of Coarsegold road. Its a long windy fire road with some nice views. Good luck and have fun...

34.483451, -118.465764
05-24-2013 04:31 PM
aharris41 Thanks Crittert. I will take you up on that offer soon, could use a tour guide .

Where do you start on Bouquet? I might take the family out tomorrow. I am really looking for simple and quick with them. This is also a way for my wife understand my new money pit.
05-24-2013 03:04 PM
crittert Rowher Flats off of Sierra HWY has all kinds of fire roads for the choosing. It has some moderate sections as well..Look around there are plenty of fire roads in the area. Another area is down Bouqet Canyon Road. There are a few spots that are labeled with forestry signs as well. PM me some time if you want a tour of the area. I'm in Castaic btw.
05-24-2013 01:23 PM
aharris41 Hi, I just bought my first jeep and would like to take it off the pavement for a little exploration. It is a daily driver and I do not have plans of anything serious. I want to find a few fire roads or trails to take my family out. My young kids would love it.

I got it lifted and on 35s, which is great for my basics.

Any suggestions?

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