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05-28-2013 04:57 PM
Rubi513
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Originally Posted by donmeca2020 View Post
as i said prior, the suspension components as well as the differential and what not ARE different. im getting butt hurt ??? didn't yourself and a mod jump on me a few posts back ??? but once again no one seems to agree with me, the body is the same, so is the interior almost with exception to add ons and leather interior. the motor is the same, same Hp and tq outputs. so tell me again BESIDES the differentials and lockers, blah blah blah

HOW IS NOT THE SAME VEHICLE??? thats like comparing a old camaro to a trans am, or a silverado to a sierra for christs sake... in all reality its the same damn thing
So I guess a raptor and a regular f150 are the same?
A ZR1 and a Grand Sport vette are the same?
A Power Wagon and a 3/4 dodge are the same?

I am just messing with you.
05-28-2013 04:38 PM
Dragonscape Photos or its all just a wishful story
05-28-2013 04:37 PM
mike1158
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Originally Posted by 5150Rubicon View Post
Mike1158...thanks for the feedback. just negotiated to pick it up this Friday. I think its a go....
Atta boy...GET AFTER IT ! ! !
05-28-2013 04:20 PM
5150Rubicon Mike1158...thanks for the feedback. just negotiated to pick it up this Friday. I think its a go....
05-28-2013 04:05 PM
5150Rubicon
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Originally Posted by mike1158 View Post
how far away was it? look...if its within a days driving distance, take a day off on friday, get a buddy to take a road trip with you...drive down friday, get a room, head to the dealer saturday morning, do the deal..be home saturday night...
It seems like a lot, but hey, you get what you WANT...get it NOW and you'll have a cool story to go with your Jeep...
Me and a guy from WV got togther and worked out a wheel/tire deal between the 2 of us we drove about 700 miles round trip to get the deal done...and you know what...we were both happy and got a cool story to tell.....
4 1/2 hours away. definitely doable...
05-28-2013 02:45 PM
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05-28-2013 02:41 PM
mike1158
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Originally Posted by 5150Rubicon View Post
The sport seems to have fallen apart...the one dealer east of the mississippi who had one with a hardtop, manual, 3.73 gears...wouldn't trade it to any dealers in my state!!! So...now I'm looking to order a 14'...but I want it now dammit
how far away was it? look...if its within a days driving distance, take a day off on friday, get a buddy to take a road trip with you...drive down friday, get a room, head to the dealer saturday morning, do the deal..be home saturday night...
It seems like a lot, but hey, you get what you WANT...get it NOW and you'll have a cool story to go with your Jeep...
Me and a guy from WV got togther and worked out a wheel/tire deal between the 2 of us we drove about 700 miles round trip to get the deal done...and you know what...we were both happy and got a cool story to tell.....
05-28-2013 02:18 PM
donmeca2020
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Originally Posted by 5150Rubicon View Post
The sport seems to have fallen apart...the one dealer east of the mississippi who had one with a hardtop, manual, 3.73 gears...wouldn't trade it to any dealers in my state!!! So...now I'm looking to order a 14'...but I want it now dammit
so do i !!!! when did they tell you that you can order a 14? next week or when?
05-28-2013 02:09 PM
5150Rubicon The sport seems to have fallen apart...the one dealer east of the mississippi who had one with a hardtop, manual, 3.73 gears...wouldn't trade it to any dealers in my state!!! So...now I'm looking to order a 14'...but I want it now dammit
05-28-2013 01:07 PM
tabber02
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Guys ... He bought a Sport already.
05-28-2013 01:05 PM
kjeeper10 Guys ... He bought a Sport already.
05-28-2013 11:57 AM
donmeca2020
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Originally Posted by tae73 View Post
Whats wrong with a just a regular Rubi???
obvisously the guy isn't looking to spend that much money, also he did say he isn't going to be going off roading that much.
05-28-2013 11:54 AM
mike1158
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Originally Posted by tae73 View Post
Whats wrong with a just a regular Rubi???
you think a RUBI is a good idea for a guy who openly admitted he's "not much of an off-roader" ?
05-28-2013 11:50 AM
panthermark
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Originally Posted by tae73 View Post
Whats wrong with a just a regular Rubi???
Nothing....just money.

If you are not going to spend much time in 4 lo, might as well save some cash.
05-28-2013 11:35 AM
tae73 Whats wrong with a just a regular Rubi???
05-26-2013 12:27 AM
iNizo 15 may or may not fit.. Be sure about it.. Release the hand break and the breaks after you fit the 15" for testing.. It may fit when the jeep is off but may touch the break caliber when moving..
05-25-2013 04:12 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by jsmithtx View Post
x2
He was misunderstood and cleared it up later.
05-25-2013 02:43 PM
jsmithtx
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Originally Posted by watchthis! View Post
you might want to do some more research before you give false info like that.
x2
05-25-2013 02:33 PM
GoldenSahara00
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Originally Posted by 5150Rubicon View Post
I think I have a winner (thanks to this forum) for a tire/wheel combo to put on the stock Unlimited Sport S. 15x8 mate black ET 19 Level 8 Trackers and the tires are Goodyear DuraTrac 33x12.50x15. It seems that, after researching this forum, that this combo will be fine without any mods (suspension, lift, wheel spacers, etc) and will also give a great, aggressive look while not making the wheel wells look too "full". If you have them, have you found the duratracs to perform well in normal daily driving, including rain and snow?
Duratracs perform excellent in both snow and rain and all around. Avoid pointy rocks.
05-25-2013 01:15 PM
5150Rubicon I think I have a winner (thanks to this forum) for a tire/wheel combo to put on the stock Unlimited Sport S. 15x8 mate black ET 19 Level 8 Trackers and the tires are Goodyear DuraTrac 33x12.50x15. It seems that, after researching this forum, that this combo will be fine without any mods (suspension, lift, wheel spacers, etc) and will also give a great, aggressive look while not making the wheel wells look too "full". If you have them, have you found the duratracs to perform well in normal daily driving, including rain and snow?
05-25-2013 01:03 PM
MichaelEdwardsDO
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Originally Posted by iNizo View Post
I bet you will go offroading at least once a month..when you have the jeep you will start wonder around.. I suggest get the stock as is and them move to duratrac 33" with 2.5" lift and then steel bumper and then the story goes on forever...

Make sure you get the basics right else you will regret : AC, electric windows and 3.7gear
Especially the gears. 3.21s will get stuck in wet grass
05-25-2013 12:58 PM
iNizo I bet you will go offroading at least once a month..when you have the jeep you will start wonder around.. I suggest get the stock as is and them move to duratrac 33" with 2.5" lift and then steel bumper and then the story goes on forever...

Make sure you get the basics right else you will regret : AC, electric windows and 3.7gear
05-25-2013 12:37 PM
MichaelEdwardsDO
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Originally Posted by 5150Rubicon View Post
Thanks! Since they are the same diameter as stock (and I apologize if this is a dumb question...) does that mean that 275 translates to a 32" tire?
not precisely: from Tire Tech Information - Tire Size Guide

Section Width

Following the letter(s) that identify the type of vehicle and/or type of service for which the tire was designed, the three-digit numeric portion identifies the tire's "Section Width" (cross section) in millimeters.

P225/50R16 91S

The 225 indicates this tire is 225 millimeters across from the widest point of its outer sidewall to the widest point of its inner sidewall when mounted and measured on a specified width wheel. This measurement is also referred to as the tire's section width. Because many people think of measurements in inches, the 225mm can be converted to inches by dividing the section width in millimeters by 25.4 (the number of millimeters per inch).

225mm / 25.4 = 8.86"

Sidewall Aspect Ratio

Typically following the three digits identifying the tire's Section Width in millimeters is a two-digit number that identifies the tire's profile or aspect ratio.

P225/50R16 91S

The 50 indicates that this tire size's sidewall height (from rim to tread) is 50% of its section width. The measurement is the tire's section height, and also referred to as the tire's series, profile or aspect ratio. The higher the number, the taller the sidewall; the lower the number, the lower the sidewall. We know that this tire size's section width is 225mm and that its section height is 50% of 225mm. By converting the 225mm to inches (225 / 25.4 = 8.86") and multiplying it by 50% (.50) we confirm that this tire size results in a tire section height of 4.43". If this tire were a P225/70R16 size, our calculation would confirm that the size would result in a section height of 6.20", approximately a 1.8-inch taller sidewall.

Internal Construction

A letter (R in this case) that identifies the tire's internal construction follows the two digits used to identify the aspect ratio.

P225/50R16, P225/50ZR16

The R in the P225/50R16 91S size identifies that the tire has a Radial construction in which the tire's body plies "radiate" out from the imaginary center of the wheel.

and the number after the r signifies the radius of tire so
so its the 1st number x the second number divided by 100 x 2 + the radius listed is the height of the tire (but they are not exactly as described because they compress when seated on the wheel and under load so effectively tires measure a little shorter than the math when on your vehicle)
05-25-2013 12:23 PM
5150Rubicon
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Originally Posted by mike1158 View Post
on the stock wheels with no spacers you can't get too crazy without rubbing the tires at full turn..
This is what i did though...i did alot of research on tires. I went with General Grabber AT2s in 275/65-18 they are exactly the same diameter as stock (so the speedo is dead on) but they are almost a full inch wider and they have a much more AT tread. They are also only 2# heavier then stock, (so no real excess wear & tear on the drivetrain) and they have a load rating very close to stock (a tad higher) so they aren't overly stiff. They seem to have good ratings everywhere i looked and so far i am happy. I drive about 500 miles/week and have to go off pavement for work just about every day. So far i am pleased. I haven't had any problems in rain , snow? i don't know, i got them in April. and they aren't very loud. AND they were about $200 / tire...thats not bad
BFG does make their AT tire in 285/65-18 which is just slightly larger(1/2" taller & 3/8" wider) , but they are E rated which means stiffer, they are ALOT heavier..about 15# or 25% heavier and they run about $100/tire more.. and i believe (not 100% certian) that once you get to 285 in width you will get rubbing

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Thanks! Since they are the same diameter as stock (and I apologize if this is a dumb question...) does that mean that 275 translates to a 32" tire?
05-25-2013 11:36 AM
mike1158
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Originally Posted by 5150Rubicon View Post
Ok Guys and Gals...

I am going to go with the Sport Unlimited. I'm cool with the bare options. Only mod (famous last words...) will be to replace the wheels and tires (29") with something bigger and more aggressive (daily driver, mostly ON-road). Would like to keep the stock backspacing and no wheel spacers.

What wheel/tire combo? Have at it....
on the stock wheels with no spacers you can't get too crazy without rubbing the tires at full turn..
This is what i did though...i did alot of research on tires. I went with General Grabber AT2s in 275/65-18 they are exactly the same diameter as stock (so the speedo is dead on) but they are almost a full inch wider and they have a much more AT tread. They are also only 2# heavier then stock, (so no real excess wear & tear on the drivetrain) and they have a load rating very close to stock (a tad higher) so they aren't overly stiff. They seem to have good ratings everywhere i looked and so far i am happy. I drive about 500 miles/week and have to go off pavement for work just about every day. So far i am pleased. I haven't had any problems in rain , snow? i don't know, i got them in April. and they aren't very loud. AND they were about $200 / tire...thats not bad
BFG does make their AT tire in 285/65-18 which is just slightly larger(1/2" taller & 3/8" wider) , but they are E rated which means stiffer, they are ALOT heavier..about 15# or 25% heavier and they run about $100/tire more.. and i believe (not 100% certian) that once you get to 285 in width you will get rubbing

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05-25-2013 07:52 AM
panthermark The only reason I would say go with a Sport S over base Sport is that you listed a 4 door that would be used as a daily driver......the base Sport does not have an option for power windows or door locks, nor side airbags. But if that is what you are looking for when you say bare bones, then go for it.
05-24-2013 09:42 PM
donmeca2020
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Originally Posted by WatchThis! View Post
Don't get butt hurt if someone simply points out that you are wrong about something home slice. Especially something you imply you don't know anything about but what you read on the internet.




The suspension is the same just different shocks and the front sway bar (which is rated the same as the other modles, it just discos and cost a LOT more).

Who cares if th OP was talking about wheeling or not that does not change the fact that they are not exactly the same.
Even if you knew that already it probably was just a bad choice of words and still nothing worth geting butt hurt over.


I agree with the OP that a sport might very well be his/her best bet.
as i said prior, the suspension components as well as the differential and what not ARE different. im getting butt hurt ??? didn't yourself and a mod jump on me a few posts back ??? but once again no one seems to agree with me, the body is the same, so is the interior almost with exception to add ons and leather interior. the motor is the same, same Hp and tq outputs. so tell me again BESIDES the differentials and lockers, blah blah blah

HOW IS NOT THE SAME VEHICLE??? thats like comparing a old camaro to a trans am, or a silverado to a sierra for christs sake... in all reality its the same damn thing
05-24-2013 08:41 PM
5150Rubicon
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Originally Posted by bflank View Post
We did exactly what several posters have described, Unlimited X (now called Sport) with the S package. Dealer swapped the tires for BFG KM's for an additional $500, local tire shop would have done it for $700.

For the use the OP described that's probably a great way to go.
Thanks so much...any chance you have a pic?
05-24-2013 08:37 PM
bflank We did exactly what several posters have described, Unlimited X (now called Sport) with the S package. Dealer swapped the tires for BFG KM's for an additional $500, local tire shop would have done it for $700.

For the use the OP described that's probably a great way to go.
05-24-2013 08:35 PM
5150Rubicon Ok Guys and Gals...

I am going to go with the Sport Unlimited. I'm cool with the bare options. Only mod (famous last words...) will be to replace the wheels and tires (29") with something bigger and more aggressive (daily driver, mostly ON-road). Would like to keep the stock backspacing and no wheel spacers.

What wheel/tire combo? Have at it....
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