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06-22-2014 01:31 PM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by Green Mountain Boy View Post
Ah so your time investment would surpass the average by a good bit.

Ps you asked about my skills.......lefty tighty righty loosey correct?
Scott's your man... tell him how to what level of completeness you want the kit built and he'll get it done for you.
06-22-2014 09:20 AM
Green Mountain Boy
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Originally Posted by jscherb View Post
I'm probably not the best one to ask that question because I designed the tub kit, made the molds, made the first set of fiberglass parts, and then assembled them into the trailer you see in this thread. Scott's got experience assembling them himself and the experience of his customers, so he can give you a much more accurate estimate than I could. BTW Scott can do a kit to any state of assembly that makes sense for you - complete unassembled kit, fully assembled and ready-to-roll, or somewhere in between as your time, skills and budget dictates.
Ah so your time investment would surpass the average by a good bit.

Ps you asked about my skills.......lefty tighty righty loosey correct?
06-20-2014 03:11 PM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by Green Mountain Boy View Post
I emailed info@dinoot.com hopefully they will be able to set me up. I am all for the DIY thing but I am unsure of the time constraints involved in setting one up. Can you comment on your total time investment from stat to finish?
I'm probably not the best one to ask that question because I designed the tub kit, made the molds, made the first set of fiberglass parts, and then assembled them into the trailer you see in this thread. Scott's got experience assembling them himself and the experience of his customers, so he can give you a much more accurate estimate than I could.

BTW Scott can do a kit to any state of assembly that makes sense for you - complete unassembled kit, fully assembled and ready-to-roll, or somewhere in between as your time, skills and budget dictates.
06-20-2014 02:29 PM
Green Mountain Boy
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Originally Posted by jscherb View Post
Contact Scott at Compact Camping, they sell the fiberglass tub kits, but also sell welded frames, roof-top tents, etc., so they can probably set you up with a custom "kit" designed specifically to your needs. Scott's at scott@cttct.com and his web site for the trailer kits is Jeep Trailer Dinoot Lightweight Fiberglass Tub Kit Dinoot Trailers - Dinoot Trailers Dinoot Trailers
I emailed info@dinoot.com hopefully they will be able to set me up. I am all for the DIY thing but I am unsure of the time constraints involved in setting one up. Can you comment on your total time investment from stat to finish?
06-20-2014 01:05 PM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by Green Mountain Boy View Post
I am seriously considering setting up something like this for my honeymoon. I wish someone just sold a kit that was everything needed.

Regards, GMB
Contact Scott at Compact Camping, they sell the fiberglass tub kits, but also sell welded frames, roof-top tents, etc., so they can probably set you up with a custom "kit" designed specifically to your needs. Scott's at scott@cttct.com and his web site for the trailer kits is Jeep Trailer Dinoot Lightweight Fiberglass Tub Kit Dinoot Trailers - Dinoot Trailers Dinoot Trailers
06-20-2014 12:48 PM
Green Mountain Boy I am seriously considering setting up something like this for my honeymoon. I wish someone just sold a kit that was everything needed.

Regards, GMB
06-02-2014 03:52 PM
whiteyjfm
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Originally Posted by jscherb View Post
I heard back from Scott, he said he expects the site to be fixed by this evening.
Thanks for the info.
06-02-2014 08:00 AM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by jscherb View Post
I just tried and got the same error. I sent them an email to report the problem, I'm sure they'll get on it right away.

In the meantime, if you want to email them, you can use scott@cttct.com, the person is Scott Chaney. Great guy to deal with.
I heard back from Scott, he said he expects the site to be fixed by this evening.
06-02-2014 05:29 AM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by whiteyjfm View Post
We are getting ever so close to order one but the last few days I get this message when trying to go to their site? Is it just me or is there a problem with their site??

Fatal error: Class 'JLog' not found in /home3/chaney92/public_html/www.dinoot.com/libraries/joomla/error/error.php on line 352
I just tried and got the same error. I sent them an email to report the problem, I'm sure they'll get on it right away.

In the meantime, if you want to email them, you can use scott@cttct.com, the person is Scott Chaney. Great guy to deal with.
06-02-2014 12:50 AM
whiteyjfm We are getting ever so close to order one but the last few days I get this message when trying to go to their site? Is it just me or is there a problem with their site??

Fatal error: Class 'JLog' not found in /home3/chaney92/public_html/www.dinoot.com/libraries/joomla/error/error.php on line 352
06-01-2014 01:06 PM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by Aircrew423 View Post
I want one, how much and when can I get it!! You do some amazing work! Where in NY are you , I'm from oyster bay.
Thank you.

The military trailer tub kit is available at www.dinoot.com.

I'm from a different NY than you... the upstate Finger Lakes region - Elmira .
06-01-2014 12:31 PM
Aircrew423 I want one, how much and when can I get it!! You do some amazing work! Where in NY are you , I'm from oyster bay.
04-24-2014 04:11 PM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyMike View Post
Are the bows made from marine plywood or what is that?
I made the bows from 5/16" x 1 1/2" oak.
04-24-2014 03:03 PM
WhiskeyMike
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Originally Posted by jscherb View Post
I'm getting ready to sew up my tarp cover, but before I do I made up the bows for the cover. These go in the removable bow sockets I just posted. Of course I'll have to take the hard cover off before I can put the tarp cover on...

Are the bows made from marine plywood or what is that?
04-23-2014 08:00 AM
jscherb This was posted on the Dinoot Facebook page yesterday:
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A Dinoot M-Series heading for its new home in California. This is a tailgate version with tonneau cover, 3500 axle, 5 on 5 hubs and Lock 'N Roll hitch. It will be getting painted matching desert sand shortly.
04-19-2014 06:20 PM
Chad s Awesome build! Just have a question do u need to adopt a son? If so I'm in. Ha ha. Great work!
04-06-2014 01:56 PM
jscherb I sewed the test cover for the trailer this morning. The pattern worked out very well, it fits great.







Next I'll take it out for a spin to see how it performs on the road...

04-05-2014 07:22 PM
jscherb I'm getting ready to sew up my tarp cover, but before I do I made up the bows for the cover. These go in the removable bow sockets I just posted. Of course I'll have to take the hard cover off before I can put the tarp cover on...

04-05-2014 07:22 PM
jscherb More on the cover plan...

I plan to use boat cover bows to support the tarp cover, so I'll need to have some sockets mounted to the tub to support the bows. Because I'm just doing this cover as a project to learn sewing, I probably won't use this tarp much after I sew it and test it, so I don't really want to drill holes in the tub to mount the sockets.

So I made up some push-on socket brackets. They're just a piece of sheet metal bent in a "u" shape; the sockets are pop-riveted to them, and there's foam weatherstrip inside the "u" to prevent scratching the paint on the tub and to give them a snug fit over the top rail of the tub.



04-05-2014 07:19 PM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by JeeperJake View Post
jscherb:
I'm looking to upgrade my own M100 tarp. I had an old scrap that was almost the right size, and just put grommets in for tie downs.

In using my scrap it has become obvious the material is just too old & isn't holding the grommets very well.

I'm looking to build something along the lines of your sample with the drawstring above, although on tarps there are a lot of alternate ways to secure them. I've been experimenting with a variety of bungie arrangments along with various ropes. Vertical expandability of the tarp is handy for some loads, while often the basic top footprint of the trailer is adequate. I'm working to find what size tarp works better most often for the adaptive sizes I sometimes want, without having to put up with a 'too big' or 'too small' tarp size. I don't like having a wad of extra bungies laying around, or too long a rope. Ah, design!!!


It's surprisingly difficult to chose between the qualities I want in my own tarp, as well as keeping the cost down.

There's a lot of mil.surp tarps that are way heavier than my need.

I'm looking for khaki/olive drab rather than camo pattern.

Your plentiful ideas are marvelous & I appreciate the photo stories you've posted.
I plan to do the sewing on the tarp tomorrow, when I finish it I'll post photos. Stay tuned.
04-05-2014 07:08 PM
JeeperJake jscherb:
I'm looking to upgrade my own M100 tarp. I had an old scrap that was almost the right size, and just put grommets in for tie downs.

In using my scrap it has become obvious the material is just too old & isn't holding the grommets very well.

I'm looking to build something along the lines of your sample with the drawstring above, although on tarps there are a lot of alternate ways to secure them. I've been experimenting with a variety of bungie arrangments along with various ropes. Vertical expandability of the tarp is handy for some loads, while often the basic top footprint of the trailer is adequate. I'm working to find what size tarp works better most often for the adaptive sizes I sometimes want, without having to put up with a 'too big' or 'too small' tarp size. I don't like having a wad of extra bungies laying around, or too long a rope. Ah, design!!!


It's surprisingly difficult to chose between the qualities I want in my own tarp, as well as keeping the cost down.

There's a lot of mil.surp tarps that are way heavier than my need.

I'm looking for khaki/olive drab rather than camo pattern.

Your plentiful ideas are marvelous & I appreciate the photo stories you've posted.
03-31-2014 12:53 PM
jscherb Way back when I first started this project, I made 1/4 scale models of the parts in fiberglass to test the assembly and fitting before going full scale (the larger of these tubs is 18" long and 12" wide):



Today I did the same thing for my first sewing project. To test the design and patterns I made for my drawstring cover for the military trailer, I printed the patterns out at 1/4 scale, and sewed up a cover. It's secured by a drawstring, just as the full scale one will be, and it's got support bows across the tub holding it up, also as the full scale one will. The cover is form-fitted to the corners of the tub, so there's no bunching up of the tarp like there is with the original military issue covers.



You can just see the drawstring peeking out of one corner in this next photo. The design concept is that the drawstring is below the flared out section of the tub, so when it's pulled tight, the cover can't come off.





The patterns appear to be correct and the design works, so now I'll make a full size cover. The model cover was made from some camo fabric I picked up in the fabric department of Walmart the other day; a $6.00 Harbor Freight tarp will be providing the raw material for the full scale cover.
03-26-2014 11:04 AM
WhiskeyMike Thanks, much appreciated. Now the debate begins on a trailer like this versus a popup. Each has their pros and cons.
03-24-2014 05:16 PM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyMike View Post
JScherb,

You reference a fiberglass top. When looking at the manufacturer site, they show plans for a plywood top, but not fiberglass. Also, do you have any recent recommendations for a roof tent that works well for this footprint?

I assume that if you go with a roof tent, marine plywood is just as good as fiberglass?
The cover on my trailer is fiberglass. I designed it and made the molds for it when I made the trailer tub. It's been offered to the company that sells the tub kit, it's not clear what their plans are for it yet, I haven't heard.



I have the "Safari style" roof top tent from Compact Camping: Compact Camping Concepts, LLC - Tent Units-Compact Camping Concepts, LLC 2013

It fits very well on the trailer:





And the cover can even open with the tent in place



Plywood would be a fine material to make a cover out of.
03-24-2014 03:36 PM
WhiskeyMike JScherb,

You reference a fiberglass top. When looking at the manufacturer site, they show plans for a plywood top, but not fiberglass. Also, do you have any recent recommendations for a roof tent that works well for this footprint?

I assume that if you go with a roof tent, marine plywood is just as good as fiberglass?
03-23-2014 08:36 AM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by JeeperJake View Post
jscherb: your ideas are spectacular!
Thank you!

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Originally Posted by JeeperJake View Post
Interested in that little tongue mounted gas-can/tool box cozy.....fabricated or repurposed from some other source?
It's a Harbor Freight ATV Cargo Rack, just installed a little differently than the instructions call for: 300 lb. ATV Cargo Carrier

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And do you have any comments on decent jerry cans for actual fuel use? I have heard of some poly styles but never see them around. And the old flexible spouts were pretty much trash when new.
I use either original military-issue cans or the Blitz consumer equivalent. Harbor Freight sells some nice NATO-style cans for $40, but unfortunately all cans sold today have the awkward EPA spout. I don't have any suggestions for a better spout (and I'm glad I have original military and Blitz spouts for mine ).
03-22-2014 11:23 PM
JeeperJake jscherb: your ideas are spectacular! Love the tarp idea, similar to one I was working on but much improved from my primitive version.

My original M100 has enough hooks around all sides I can rely on them, but the tarp I built from a remnant is not quite what I need. I've got old style tarp metal inserts at corners & middle, & ran anchor rope thru them....but my tarp is just barely the size of the top without fitting over the sides at all. Somewhat not-quite-satisfactory with such as a load of light wood chips but quite fine with heavier stuff.

Interested in that little tongue mounted gas-can/tool box cozy.....fabricated or repurposed from some other source?

And do you have any comments on decent jerry cans for actual fuel use?
I have heard of some poly styles but never see them around. And the old flexible spouts were pretty much trash when new.
03-22-2014 06:24 PM
jscherb All the way back to WWII, tarps have been used to protect cargo in military trailers. The original trailers have a series of hooks welded around the sides for tying down the tarp:



I've got a different idea I plan to try - what if the tarp extended down below the flared-out portion at the top of the tub and was held in place with a drawstring contained inside the lower hem of the tarp? The drawstring would be pulled tight, and since that would be around the narrow part of the tub, the cover would be secured. The tarp would be very simple to put on and remove because you wouldn't have to worry about hooking up the rope(s) to all of the tub tie-down hooks - you'd just throw it on and tighten the drawstring.

Here's a concept sketch:



The yellow dashed line indicates where the drawstring will go. To keep water from pooling on top of the cover, two boat cover bow sockets can be installed on the inside of the tub edge, indicated by the white dashed lines.

I'm going to make a prototype of this concept. I'll use a Harbor Freight camo tarp I picked up for less than $7.00, and some HF 3/8" camo rope for the drawstring (about $5), so it's a very low cost project.

It'll be a week or two before I begin work on this, I've got some work on another project I want to finish up first, but I welcome your comments and suggestions on this idea.
03-01-2014 02:57 PM
jscherb Anyone out there with an original M416 a rusty and/or dented tub that needs replacement? This item was in the Dinoot email newsletter I got today:

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Would like to contact someone local to Salem, OR with a M416 that needs a new tub. Planning a write up on replacing a trashed M416 tub with a Dinoot M-Series tub.
Sounds like they want to do a showcase install of a fiberglass Dinoot m-series tub on an M416 frame, showing how the Dinoot easily replaces the original dented/rusted tub.
01-26-2014 08:58 AM
jscherb
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This is great. Is the kit for sale?
Yes, the company that's licensed the military trailer kit and the Jeep-tub trailer kit from me has both kits available. They're at Jeep Trailer Dinoot Lightweight Fiberglass Tub Kit Dinoot Trailers - Dinoot Trailers Dinoot Trailers
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