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07-26-2013 06:47 AM
repauli1 Ps, they ride quality is GREAT!
07-26-2013 06:45 AM
repauli1 Some lessons learned...
Consider myself a above average skill level, but I am fat, and old...
1: hire it out if fat and old LOL
2: have a GOOD IMPACT WRENCH, threw my $50 one in trash and bout a GOOD ONE...
3: buy the good one before disassembly, I bought mine after using breaker bar on all bolts
3: I used a 4" grinder to cut tops of front shocks off, worked like a champ
4: grind about a 1/16" off lower shock cushion so you can get the nut started! (flat side only)
5: jack the drivers front side on axle up to get the track bar aligned on passenger axle side for bolt
6: don't do a complete brake job at same time it adds work load to this old fat guy!
7: I had to cut my lower shock bolts on rear, get hardened ones from Ace Hardware.. They have the.. Number grade 8
8: retorque on ground is a bite in the ass! Refer to number one!
07-26-2013 06:24 AM
repauli1
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Originally Posted by reissc1 View Post

+1
Here is my before and after for rear...

After


What was you saying about only netting? Lol

Completed, 5" gain front, 4" in rear, sure it will settle an inch though...

My gain was due to 100,000 mileage and heavy loads... I was being called LOWRIDER!
07-23-2013 10:06 PM
reissc1
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
guys, i just did some more research on the rear swaybar links with the aev 2.5" kit.

My friend running aev's 3.5" does come with new links. We already know the 2.5" does not.

The rear on a 2.5" lift only nets 1.5-2" depending on how heavy the jeep is (bumpers/winch/tire carrier/etc). The rear is not going to be as sensitive to geometry changes. Im seeing a lot of folks running without which imo not a good idea.

Grab a nice set of adjustable front discos, scrap the brackets and call it a day
+1
07-23-2013 06:42 PM
4x4n
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Grab a nice set of adjustable front discos, scrap the brackets and call it a day
This is what I did with mine, went with the JKS discos. Didn't really like the idea of the brackets anyway.
07-23-2013 06:38 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by repauli1 View Post

I waited until tires were wore out, big mistake, after tires/wheels REALLY LOVE MY JEEP.
My new AEV LIFT was deliver to wrong address today,,,, uggghhhh
What a gift lol
07-23-2013 06:25 PM
repauli1
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Originally Posted by dkeown
I just put the same AEV lift on my 2012 JKU last weekend. I had some minimal mechanical experience and did it all by myself. It really wasnt too bad if you have the right tools. Air tools will speed things up greatly. Just take your time because the instructions are a little vague and you have to do some problem solving along the way (front passenger shock). This forum had several threads with tips to get you through some of the issues. You dont need spacers to run stock. I am keeping my stock wheels and tires until the originals wear out.
I waited until tires were wore out, big mistake, after tires/wheels REALLY LOVE MY JEEP.
My new AEV LIFT was deliver to wrong address today,,,, uggghhhh
07-23-2013 06:12 PM
kjeeper10 Guys, I just did some more research on the rear swaybar links with the AEV 2.5" kit.

My friend running AEV's 3.5" does come with new links. We already know the 2.5" does not.

The rear on a 2.5" lift only nets 1.5-2" depending on how heavy the jeep is (bumpers/winch/tire carrier/etc). The Rear is not going to be as sensitive to geometry changes. Im seeing a lot of folks running without which IMO not a good idea.

Grab a nice set of adjustable front discos, scrap the brackets and call it a day
07-23-2013 02:30 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by reissc1 View Post

Yes, they definitely keep stock in the rear. I put some Teraflex quick disconnects on the front because I wasn't too excited about using the brackets. Both sway bars are level. So, it worked out. I was really questioning how the stocks were going to work out in the rear, but it actually worked well.
07-23-2013 02:19 PM
reissc1
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post

Yep that's fine. Now I'm curious whats done to the rear..... Anybody ?
Yes, they definitely keep stock in the rear. I put some Teraflex quick disconnects on the front because I wasn't too excited about using the brackets. Both sway bars are level. So, it worked out. I was really questioning how the stocks were going to work out in the rear, but it actually worked well.
07-23-2013 02:00 PM
jadmt
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Understood. But what if flexed ?
check out their videos they flex and take them to the extreme.
07-23-2013 01:49 PM
5150Rubicon
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
What kit are you taking about ?

The leveling kit makes sense because there's little height added to the rear.

Their 2.5" kit supplies new rears. The stock (longer) rears are then used in the front.
Oh...my bad. I didn't realize that the links that come with tf are rears (then swap the rears up front). Hmmmm....is it possible aev just doesn't address the rear links?
07-23-2013 01:45 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by 5150Rubicon View Post

But again....the teraflex kit just comes w longer front links....nothing for back, nor any mod for back. Aev only addresses the front links too (brackets). Both very popular 2.5 lifts do nothing to rear sway bar links. Are u saying the rear links should be modified?
What kit are you taking about ?

The leveling kit makes sense because there's little height added to the rear.

Their 2.5" kit supplies new rears. The stock (longer) rears are then used in the front.
07-23-2013 01:33 PM
5150Rubicon
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
That's odd they reuse the stock links. The fronts are taken care of with the brackets. The rears are longer. That's prob the reason they're reused.

A comment I found on JF

" I moved the rear links to the front because I didn't like the brackets. I purchased a set of rear links from Teraflex. Both anti sway bars are level and no silly brackets"
But again....the teraflex kit just comes w longer front links....nothing for back, nor any mod for back. Aev only addresses the front links too (brackets). Both very popular 2.5 lifts do nothing to rear sway bar links. Are u saying the rear links should be modified?
07-23-2013 01:22 PM
kjeeper10 That's odd they reuse the stock links. The fronts are taken care of with the brackets. The rears are longer. That's prob the reason they're reused.

A comment I found on JF

" I moved the rear links to the front because I didn't like the brackets. I purchased a set of rear links from Teraflex. Both anti sway bars are level and no silly brackets"
07-23-2013 11:43 AM
5150Rubicon
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Yep that's fine. Now I'm curious whats done to the rear..... Anybody ?
Nothing is for the sway bar. But...nothing is done with the Teraflex kit for rear sway links either. Are you thinking of track bar? There is a tower for that.
07-23-2013 11:25 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by 5150Rubicon View Post

gotcha. yes, they would be the short (stock) links in front with my rubi disco...but the AEV brackets raise the attachment point of the front links 2.5" higher on the front axle. Does that make sense?
Yep that's fine. Now I'm curious whats done to the rear..... Anybody ?
07-23-2013 11:21 AM
5150Rubicon
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Disconnected you are ok.
gotcha. yes, they would be the short (stock) links in front with my rubi disco...but the AEV brackets raise the attachment point of the front links 2.5" higher on the front axle. Does that make sense?
07-23-2013 11:16 AM
kjeeper10 Disconnected you are ok.
07-23-2013 11:10 AM
5150Rubicon [QUOTE=kjeeper10;3993731]

The front can be damaged (taco'd) running shorter links if using the Rubi disco.

QUOTE]

How come? If they are disconnected, aren't they just sitting there, not under any stress?
07-23-2013 10:56 AM
kjeeper10 Oh yes. Some kits replace the rear and move the stocks to the front.
My highsteer kit actually raises the fronts. But I kept them in the stock location not running quick discos

The front can be damaged (taco'd) running shorter links if using the Rubi disco.

The swaybars get put trough a lot of torsional stress off road,
07-23-2013 10:45 AM
5150Rubicon
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
All 4 links should be longer to set the swaybars parallel to the ground or -5 to +5.
Does AEV use some kind of bracket for the front ?
For the front, AEV uses brackets to raise the stock swaybar links to compensate for the 2.5" lift, because the stock links/bushings are quality. In the back though...unless I missed it....I don't think the links get changed. They don't on any 2.5 inch lift do they? I don't remember seeing them on TF either...could be wrong.
07-23-2013 10:39 AM
kjeeper10 All 4 links should be longer to set the swaybars parallel to the ground or -5 to +5.
Does AEV use some kind of bracket for the front ?
07-23-2013 10:30 AM
5150Rubicon
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
The links are raised the amount of the lift (or more) Also... when flexed, one side raises and other side lowers.
Ken, the links being raised in the front make sense to me (bc of the link brackets that AEV provides)...but I don't understand how they are raised in the back. I believe you...I just don't understand One end of the link is attached to the axle, and one to the sway bar. When increasing the distance between axle and undercarriage (lift)...how can the link get raised?

On flex I get it...because the sway bar "bends" right?

Thanks so much...the info you have provided and the things you've made me think through are invaluable!
07-23-2013 10:19 AM
County98 I'm certainly not very knowledgeable in this, but did my AEV 2.5" myself a few weeks ago.

You'll be fine with stockers for all but most extreme flex at full lock. Even then they might only recommend spacers so you don't rub the plastic airdam a little (just a wild guess).

Get the Geo brackets.

Get the breaker bar, torque wrench, and wrenches/sockets up through 22 mm as already mentioned.

Give yourself 2 days so you can learn and have fun.

The AEV wheels are nice and hub centric which is a little bonus. I have 4.5" backspacing and 33's and they BARELY stick out from the flares. I would guess that AEV brings them in .7" to sell 50 state legal for the "must be under the fender" laws.

My advice is to call AEV and ask. They're pretty helpful.

Oh! Download the most current directions from the AEV site, they update all the time.
07-23-2013 09:54 AM
kjeeper10 The links are raised the amount of the lift (or more) Also... when flexed, one side raises and other side lowers.
07-23-2013 09:36 AM
KurtieR
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Originally Posted by guppy View Post
skokie
AEV 2.5 lift works with stock wheels and tires.
Here is a picture of my AEV 2.5 with stockers.
I did my lift install by myself, and it is not difficult. You will make the job so much easier if you have an impact wrench, a breaker bar, and floor jack.
Looks great buddy! I bought a 3inch BDS that I put on my sahara. I ended up getting 33s to fill a little space but it looks very similar. I sold that jeep about 2 weeks ago and now have a 2.5 coming for my 2 door rubicon. I'm also thinking about leaving my stickers for now as I don't mind the look of the mud terrains.
07-23-2013 09:27 AM
5150Rubicon
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Good question. AEV for the most part is built for overland. (Not rock crawling/flexing)
I would think there would be rubbing issues off road.
Right now my swaybar links in the rear come very close to the tire and wheel w/ 4.5.

Dunno.... Wish I can give a honest answer. Those wheels are way to expensive to beat on the rocks IMO.
Ken,
I just went out to look at my jeep. I might be misunderstanding you...but my rear swaybar links seem to be well within the diameter of the 17" stock wheel. What I mean is, at stock set up...there is no way they could make contact with the wheel/rim, and the links are not long enough to even potentially hit the tire (entire link within inside diameter of wheel). So...in my thinking (course' I have no idea what I'm talking about ) the Sevegre will be 1"+ FARTHER away from the sway bar link with a 5.2" backspacing (stock is 6.5 I think). I'm just confused and hoping you can shed some light on that. Thanks!
07-23-2013 08:19 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by jadmt View Post
AEV wheels do not rub with their lifts. Guys at AEV's R&D shop which is 3 miles from my house all have AEV rigs and some are running 37's and most are on 35's.
Understood. But what if flexed ?
07-23-2013 08:14 AM
jadmt AEV wheels do not rub with their lifts. Guys at AEV's R&D shop which is 3 miles from my house all have AEV rigs and some are running 37's and most are on 35's.
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