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08-03-2013 09:24 AM
GoldenSahara00 I go doorless all the time!
08-03-2013 08:48 AM
_3m C'mon guys Get it back on track or it'll be shut down.
08-03-2013 06:09 AM
rdg04578 yeah but at least you do not need to open the drain plugs to get the water out--we can just shovel it out
08-02-2013 08:59 PM
kjeeper10 From our community guidelines
• The berating of any Law Enforcement Officer, Veteran or Active Duty Member of the Military is prohibited.

Honestly... I think this thread has dragged on way too long.
08-02-2013 08:57 PM
l2abbit
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Originally Posted by DFW6ER View Post
Since the threads already derailed:

Just because you disagree with the US Supreme Court doesn't mean you're right. You have the right to free speech but that doesn't cover slander. You have the right to bear arms but that doesn't cover a Red Eye missile launcher.
This thread derailed and plowed through a pet store and only killed baby kittens!
Everyone woosahhh , we don't all have to agree but we should all get along. ( Lol ) Yes some cops suck & some cops rock!

Lets all quote these and laugh

http://tjshome.com/dumblaws.php

Cheers,
08-02-2013 08:50 PM
DFW6ER Since the threads already derailed:

Just because you disagree with the US Supreme Court doesn't mean you're right. You have the right to free speech but that doesn't cover slander. You have the right to bear arms but that doesn't cover a Red Eye missile launcher.
08-02-2013 08:26 PM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by THW View Post
Nope- stopping someone for a tail light and asking for License registration and insurance is 100% constitutional. The 4th Amendment only prohibits unreasonable searches. Searches are only unreasonable where they intrude without sufficient justification upon an area in which an individual has a reasonable expectation of privacy. The Supreme Court and multiple federal circuit courts have repeatedly held that drivers on public roadways have a substantially diminished expectation of privacy in their automobiles; that a traffic stop founded upon reasonable suspicion is excepted from the warrant requirement; and that asking for identification and registration is not a search.
I disagree with the courts decision and I support my constitutional rights. You do not have the right to search my papers.

My papers blew out the door hole cause i didnt have doors anyway. :/
08-02-2013 08:24 PM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by THW View Post
Yup, I understand that it's reflective. I don't think it's a big secret though. Not sure what rights you think are being violated here.
I did not say any rights were being violated, did i? Show me where I said that.
08-02-2013 06:57 PM
THW
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Originally Posted by michiganadam View Post

Are you serious? Really have to be so condescending and rude?

Ask a cop what he aims his laser gun at. Shine a flashlight on a licenseplate. Its cleverly made to reflect light in the same direction it came from. Aka a retro reflector. And cops aim at the front bumoer anyway. That way they know how fast youre going before most laser detectors go off...if theyre lucky. The more reflective the car the better it works.

Edit: go to

Edit: im not as stupid as you think i am.

Edit: youre not funny.

Edit: yes i am a conspiracy theorist.

Edit: hell
Yup, I understand that it's reflective. I don't think it's a big secret though. Not sure what rights you think are being violated here.
08-02-2013 06:50 PM
THW
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Originally Posted by michiganadam View Post
You proved his point exactly. And lots of your kind were found to be guilty of war crimes for "just following orders" in the nuremburg trials. Pulling someone over for a non working tail light and then asking for any kind of paperwork is unconstitutional, that is an unreasonable search. Note the part of the fourth amendment that says PAPERS.
Nope- stopping someone for a tail light and asking for License registration and insurance is 100% constitutional. The 4th Amendment only prohibits unreasonable searches. Searches are only unreasonable where they intrude without sufficient justification upon an area in which an individual has a reasonable expectation of privacy. The Supreme Court and multiple federal circuit courts have repeatedly held that drivers on public roadways have a substantially diminished expectation of privacy in their automobiles; that a traffic stop founded upon reasonable suspicion is excepted from the warrant requirement; and that asking for identification and registration is not a search.
08-02-2013 08:50 AM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by SmugglersBlues View Post
Yes they would. A "real" cop would stop for any legitimate reason. That's how you find the other things. I.e. drugs in vehicle. Bag of hands on the passenger side floor, (actually happened to an officer who stopped a car for a tail light out. solved five murders). Not to mention the revoked or suspended license. Also does the operator have any warrants for thier arrest. So no it doesnt have to be a "worthless power tripping pig" We dont make the laws we enforce them. You people elect your lawmakers. If you do not like a law take it up with the law makers.
You proved his point exactly. And lots of your kind were found to be guilty of war crimes for "just following orders" in the nuremburg trials. Pulling someone over for a non working tail light and then asking for any kind of paperwork is unconstitutional, that is an unreasonable search. Note the part of the fourth amendment that says PAPERS.

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.[1]
Go ahead, follow your orders blindly with no logic whatsoever. Be a good sheeple. Bah bahhhh

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Originally Posted by rdg04578 View Post
In northern Maine we don't have pavement, cops or jeeps with doors on them--so I am kinda amazed at to hear what you can get hassled about.
Doesn't it get cold in the winter?
08-02-2013 04:55 AM
rdg04578 In northern Maine we don't have pavement, cops or jeeps with doors on them--so I am kinda amazed at to hear what you can get hassled about.
08-01-2013 02:48 PM
DozerDave How about those delivery guys like in the UPS and Fedex trucks that drive around all day long with the doors open (essentially no doors)?
08-01-2013 09:23 AM
jj77 A good friend of mine is a police officer in the Pgh area. I had him look into this. He stated that a Wrangler is designed with safety rollover bars and doesn't require the doors to add roof strength. Therfore it is totally legal to run without the doors on. The pillars around the door frame are designed to support the vehicle without the doors intact. Thats why Jeep offers half doors, because the roof is designed to self support itself not needing the additional support of the doors.
07-31-2013 06:52 PM
SmugglersBlues
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Originally Posted by Redsand View Post
A real cop wouldn't pull someone over for no doors.

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"When your stupid, your whole body suffers"
Yes they would. A "real" cop would stop for any legitimate reason. That's how you find the other things. I.e. drugs in vehicle. Bag of hands on the passenger side floor, (actually happened to an officer who stopped a car for a tail light out. solved five murders). Not to mention the revoked or suspended license. Also does the operator have any warrants for thier arrest. So no it doesnt have to be a "worthless power tripping pig" We dont make the laws we enforce them. You people elect your lawmakers. If you do not like a law take it up with the law makers.
07-31-2013 06:38 PM
cloverbagkid
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Originally Posted by techflork View Post
PA does not allow you to drive with the doors off but I've never had an issue. Put some mirrors on just to be safe, and no one will bother you. Also it's illegal to drive around with a stinger, even hitches and fairleads for the winch are illegal. just sayin...PA blowssss
I have a stinger on my jeep and i know its legal, I forget who i called but somewhere in the state that is in charge of these laws and the guy told me as long as its not sharp metal sticking straight out I am fine. He told me trucks are allowed to drive with plows on their truck and im allowed to drive with a stinger.
07-27-2013 03:01 PM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by THW View Post
Edit: you know what the purpose of a license plate is, right?

I don't think that they're "tricking" anybody. A license plate is required for identification, so I don't see why it can't also be used to enforce safety laws. You sound like one of those conspiracy theorists who thinks he has it all figured out though, so I'll leave you to your spray painted plates and tinfoil hats.
Are you serious? Really have to be so condescending and rude?

Ask a cop what he aims his laser gun at. Shine a flashlight on a licenseplate. Its cleverly made to reflect light in the same direction it came from. Aka a retro reflector. And cops aim at the front bumoer anyway. That way they know how fast youre going before most laser detectors go off...if theyre lucky. The more reflective the car the better it works.

Edit: go to

Edit: im not as stupid as you think i am.

Edit: youre not funny.

Edit: yes i am a conspiracy theorist.

Edit: hell
07-27-2013 02:27 PM
THW
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Originally Posted by michiganadam View Post

No, they are tricking you into putting a lidar target on your front bumper to make it easier to give you speeding tickets and i have a problem with that. I even painted my license plate to make it less reflective.

You know what else bugs me? If i buy a car from a private party on a friday night im expected to drive it straiggt home and not use it until i buy a plate on monday. (Cant get temp plates in michigan until after you buy a car, but its legal to drive home without one ....and thats it).

You know what i do? I drive it alll over the place with no plate until monday. Never even got pulled over for it wtf. i do put insurance on it right away though.

Edit: you know lidar is laser right?
Edit: you know what the purpose of a license plate is, right?

I don't think that they're "tricking" anybody. A license plate is required for identification, so I don't see why it can't also be used to enforce safety laws. You sound like one of those conspiracy theorists who thinks he has it all figured out though, so I'll leave you to your spray painted plates and tinfoil hats.
07-27-2013 11:39 AM
Redsand A real cop wouldn't pull someone over for no doors.

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"When your stupid, your whole body suffers"
07-27-2013 11:16 AM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 View Post
I don't know, we don't have speed traps or cops where I am from so I feel bad for ya. I'm of the opinion we ought to do whats right regardless of what a bad cop may do. The law itself isn't flawed even if a few individuals enforcing it are. Now let's not let this deteriorate into an anti-cop thread or something. There was already one of those.
This is my last Comment on this so as not to derail a thread. They will seriously throw a few barrels in a ditch and put up a 45 mph construction zone sign and sit right behind that sign in an unmarked mustang. Thats ridiculous. Thats indiana. Also theres spots where the speed limit is 70, goes down to 35 with nothing in between, for a toll booth a mile away. If you so much as cross that sign before you slow down, they pull you over.

I live in michigan but have not been able to ever get a job in michigan that pays a livable wage so i work in indiana....which is a hellhole
07-27-2013 11:10 AM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by Cdwright View Post
At 100 bucks a pop for a no front plate, i have it on there.

The area I live in has pretty low crime and a cop friend of mine told me he would never write that ticket but there are plenty in his dept who will.
Is it a moving violation with points? Those cost thousands when your insurance goes up.

Last time i got a ticket it cost me thousands in insurance and forced me to stay at a job i hate (im a professional driver). Last time i took one to court the lawyer cost 200 plus i had to pay half of the 300 dollar ticket. Greasin palms like a senator.
07-27-2013 11:10 AM
GoldenSahara00 I don't know, we don't have speed traps or cops where I am from so I feel bad for ya. I'm of the opinion we ought to do whats right regardless of what a bad cop may do. The law itself isn't flawed even if a few individuals enforcing it are. Now let's not let this deteriorate into an anti-cop thread or something. There was already one of those.
07-27-2013 11:06 AM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 View Post
Yeah, it's ridiculous that they try to make their job easier when you are the one breaking the law. HOW CRAZY IS THAT!?
I like being one step ahead of the law.

Honestly i dont speed in the jeep. If i am its accidental. If i intended to speed i would be in a black sports car with a bra on it.

But i protect myself from abuse by indiana state police. Lots of fake construction zones and bs speed traps. Im usually doing 65 in a 70 and often taking the scenic route.


If you think all speed traps are legit you arent in the real world
07-27-2013 11:01 AM
Cdwright
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Originally Posted by michiganadam View Post
2 plates is a conspiracy. The plate is a retroreflector and makes lidar more efficient. If i lived in a 2 plate state i would risk the plate ticket. Better than a speedjng ticket
At 100 bucks a pop for a no front plate, i have it on there.

The area I live in has pretty low crime and a cop friend of mine told me he would never write that ticket but there are plenty in his dept who will.
07-27-2013 10:50 AM
GoldenSahara00 Yeah, it's ridiculous that they try to make their job easier when you are the one breaking the law. HOW CRAZY IS THAT!?
07-27-2013 10:48 AM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by THW View Post
Lol and what exactly makes this a conspiracy? The state is "conspiring" to make it more efficient to identify automobiles operating on its roads?
No, they are tricking you into putting a lidar target on your front bumper to make it easier to give you speeding tickets and i have a problem with that. I even painted my license plate to make it less reflective.

You know what else bugs me? If i buy a car from a private party on a friday night im expected to drive it straiggt home and not use it until i buy a plate on monday. (Cant get temp plates in michigan until after you buy a car, but its legal to drive home without one ....and thats it).

You know what i do? I drive it alll over the place with no plate until monday. Never even got pulled over for it wtf. i do put insurance on it right away though.

Edit: you know lidar is laser right?
07-27-2013 10:20 AM
THW
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Originally Posted by michiganadam View Post
2 plates is a conspiracy. The plate is a retroreflector and makes lidar more efficient. If i lived in a 2 plate state i would risk the plate ticket. Better than a speedjng ticket
Lol and what exactly makes this a conspiracy? The state is "conspiring" to make it more efficient to identify automobiles operating on its roads?
07-27-2013 08:55 AM
michiganadam 2 plates is a conspiracy. The plate is a retroreflector and makes lidar more efficient. If i lived in a 2 plate state i would risk the plate ticket. Better than a speedjng ticket
07-26-2013 10:49 PM
coelement777 Colorado is a 2 plate state, i run with my doors off all the time with no problems and had my front plate on the dash for about a week without getting pulled over, as the dealer i bought my new jeep from did not think to predrill the front plate holes for me and i did not realize it until i had already thrown away the temp tag and put the rear plate on. Up here as long as you are sober and dont have drugs in the car they leave you alone for the most part.
07-26-2013 02:52 PM
michiganadam your necks gonna get sore without mirrors
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