|03-01-2014 09:03 PM|
looking forward to it
again thanks and see you on the trail
|02-28-2014 12:36 PM|
|willwork4sushi||Great thread and info OP. Where in Loudoun are you? My parents live in Brambleton.|
|02-28-2014 11:40 AM|
|BigDaddyAt||AK at Chaos has started up Wheeling 101 courses at the new offroad park as well. Probably a decent place to start. I'm definitely planning on doing Flagpole again this year (hopefully with some old friends who have random non-Jeep 4x4s), and hopefully checking out Shoe Creek and Second Mountain as well. I don't usually post on here when I'm going anywhere, but you'd be more than welcome to join in. Not that I'd be alot of help, since I'm about as new at this as Kawa is, but you'll always find great guys willing to help, especially at the planned events like Big Dogs, Chaos, VA4WDA, etc.|
|02-19-2014 10:32 AM|
Regarding building up your Jeep. There are people more experienced than I who can write volumes on this subject. I started with lights, a CB, and discos. Then an AEV 2.5" lift kit. Then a winch and a bumper. Then armor. Then rockrail guards. Then more armor. Then fenders and rear bumper. Then more armor. I intentionally didn't go to 35s right away because I wanted to build wheeling skills by learning to pick good lines, etc rather than just driving over stuff. I still wheel on 32s for the GWNF. I don't think I'll ever be done putting stuff on the Jeep. Chaos Fab Shop sees to that. Next week the Metal Cloak 6Paks go on and we start prepping for an eventual 37" build.
Hope this helps. Happy to have you along.
|02-19-2014 09:30 AM|
Awesome thread guys, and a lot of information that I totally don't understand!
If you guys ever would let a newbie on a day trip, I'd be happy to join on a Sunday or something. Just full disclosure, I have very little idea what I'm doing and you guys seem super experienced, but I'm more than willing to learn.
Now I just gotta wait for my Jeep to be built...
Thanks for all this great info, and videos!
|02-19-2014 04:28 AM|
Just a quick update. My wife and I took a trip up to Spruce Knob, WV near Seneca Rocks this past Sunday. Spruce Knob is the highest point in WV. We were hoping to claim first deep snow summit of 2014 bragging rights but less than 4 miles from the top we hit a 200 yard long snow drift that forced us to turn back. It I had to pick between Flagpole and Spruce Knob as a place to snow wheel, I'd choose Spruce Knob.
I'll post a better trip report and video later in the week. Here are two pics from our little outing.
|01-18-2014 05:56 PM|
|Turbostixxx||I am available all the Sundays besides that one I stated I should say|
|01-18-2014 03:13 PM|
|Turbostixxx||I am out of town the 14,15, and 16th of March, but available every other weekend of that month. Just let me know. I'm always happy to do a Sunday run, especially to plot out everything|
|01-18-2014 02:48 PM|
|pcwolf||Turbo ... I'm planning a Club run for new members in mid to late March. You got any time then? Maybe meet up with you for a Sunday run.|
|01-17-2014 10:42 PM|
|01-17-2014 08:53 PM|
|pcwolf||Kawa, I was asking regards running PAST Flagpole on the run up. FR227 (labelled Dunkle Hollow Road) runs up to a "T" - Map Quest shows Dunkle Hollow Tees with NF-85 ... right to FP left to Meadow and Union Springs. So if I turn right and continue past FP to WV/VA stateline - that is the section I have yet to run. But it sounds like none of this area is technical, I'll just have to get back soon.|
|01-17-2014 05:32 PM|
The Miracle Wash across from the 7-Eleven on 33? I used that car wash this past weekend. It does do some amazing wonders!!!
As far as FR227 and FR1197. I camped there this past weekend (Can get coordinates for 2 very nice but primitive camping locations there) We came in Switzler Lake Road off of 33, right before the WVa/VA Line and You are about 7 miles from the Top of Flag Pole. I know our camping location was 5.4 miles from the top of Flagpole down FR227.
Now the big thing about FR1197 and FR227. I think it splits about half way down, if so we played down it for a little while this weekend, but it Seemed to dead end, however it was dark and would maybe be a good place to explore a little more.
The Road for FR227 and FR1197 were both in good condition. A little better condition than Flagpole. Some downed trees this weekend, but I took care of the ones I ran into.
Good little trail, and fun. Excited to explore more.
|01-17-2014 09:31 AM|
|Highlandman||Thanks for the great report and all the useful information. I live near the GWNF and spend alot of time in the western portions of the forest. PM me if you would like another jeep on your trip. My son and I love to explore Western Virginia.|
|01-17-2014 05:22 AM|
Thanks for reaching out and the kind words.
|01-17-2014 04:38 AM|
[QUOTE=error cooled;7337657]Is that from White Rocks? QUOTE]
How did you know?
|01-16-2014 09:55 PM|
Alright, FR227 is also known as Skidmore Fork Road. I just spent the weekend on there this past weekend.
There are 2 camping spots about 5 miles down that Trail. It is basically flagpole type trail, I was cruising at about 7mph down it. You can actually turn off of 33 on to FR227. You would turn onto Switzer Lake Road, which turns into Skidmore Fork Road then FR 227 and takes you right in between The Meadow (To the Left) and Flagpole (To the Right). It is about 6-7 miles long I can give Coordinates of Camping spots with fire rings.
|01-16-2014 09:47 PM|
|01-16-2014 09:16 PM|
Thanks a LOT for your long and accurate trip report in the GWNF. Seems we have run a lot of the same dirt. I was a Coast Guard navigator at sea for 32 years and now I'm landlocked but can't seem to quit my map addiction.
Spending money local: Check. The gas station cafe at Rawley Springs makes the best $2 handmade sandwiches ... also 100% gasoline no ethanol. Don't let them scare you city slickers with all their bear talk!
In my experience, the MVUM is *useless* for navigating ... the Nat'l Geo maps are best and DeLorme Gazetteer next best, drive to where you want to be on them, then pull out your MVUM to determine where and what kind of property surrounds you. My 0.02$
I have been to Flagpole a handful of times, and always led people out the back way down Union Springs Road back to Harrisonburg. I always wanted to continue the trail (FR 227) *past* Flagpole and on up to the WV/VA state line. Perhaps you could help me out:
Question 1: How much further is it, and what kind of shape is the road in?
Question 2: Turning left at the top, I take it that trail leads back down to Red Knob?
I have heard some rumblings that private property owners are agitated and about to close down Shoe Creek. I agree with you that Big Levels is a nicer trail and thinking about shifting my Club's "Newbie Run" from Shoe.
At the risk of giving away my biggest secret: try staying at the USFS Campground at Sherando Lake. It is central to a whole lot of the trails you detail, costs $20 ($25 with electrical outlets) with hot showers and flush toilets. Ahhhh, bliss!
I will share with you any intel I gather up there myself, although it seems you have done an exhaustive study already. Thanks again!
Middle Penninsula Jeep Assn. Trail Committee Chairman
VA4WDA Land Use Coordinator
|01-15-2014 11:40 PM|
|Turbostixxx||hey V, didn't know if you go my last message. Bestjeeperalive@gmail.com is my email.|
|01-10-2014 02:37 PM|
V - Did you get my email? Would love to know how things went...
|01-08-2014 09:17 PM|
You need a gpx reading program to make it useable. BTW, you are downloading waypoints and tracks. Not maps. Here are some options:
Garmin BaseCamp free but you have to buy the maps if you want mapping. Not necessary if you just want to import gpx files.
Delorme Topo North America ($$). You get a topo map with this
TopoFusion (inexpensive). Uses publically available maps.
Google Earth (free).
Those are for PCs. I use other programs for my tablet and smart phone.
Keep in mind that while you can transfer routes, waypoints and tracks to your GPS with these program you can't transfer maps unless you buy the maps. A maps are proprietary to the GPS maker. You can't put a Delorme map on a Garmin for example. Hope this helps.
|01-08-2014 06:42 PM|
|vatsalagi||WOW! a good review. I tried to download the maps via the wililoc site, my computer doesn't recognize the .gxp(?) extension. Now the site is telling me I don't know who I am, lol. will hand record this for future reference but does make one want to go exploring now.|
|01-08-2014 01:45 PM|
Indeed it is the place that must not be named. The last open trail on what must have been amazing jeep trail network thirty years ago. :-(
See if you know where this view is. My buddy and I hiked in last Saturday. Hint, it's an east view further north. You have to hike or bike in.
|01-08-2014 01:11 PM|
I will shoot you an email - would love to catch up!
Here are our shots from the same spot back in October.
|01-07-2014 09:14 PM|
Wheeled for 4 days in the northern GWNF after Christmas. Here's the video. Be sure to watch in HD. Wheeling, camping and hiking in the northern George Washington National Forest - YouTube
The opening autopilot scene was taken on Rader Mountain seasonal forest road.
|01-01-2014 06:47 PM|
|01-01-2014 04:57 PM|
|HRPinDC||Looks like a nice trip. Were you running chains then?|
|01-01-2014 04:56 PM|
Harris Spring (85-2) closes on 1/10 as do most the seasonals in that area. I recommend driving up on 85-2 off of Hwy 33, hitting Rader Mtn (FR597) in and out and then going down FR 152. Rader Mtn and FR152 are both seasonals and worth doing. Rader Mtn. is very muddy. Once you come down the mountain you'll be on CR31 (Camp Run Rd). If you turn right (east) you can refuel in Bergton and head back up the mountain on German River road (nice) or you can turn left (west) and hit CR3 (Sweedlin Valley) and either hit FR 87 up the mountain or continue on to FR 151 (State Forest Rd) and come out back on Hwy 33.
|01-01-2014 04:37 PM|
As for chains, if you are using the stock JK 32" wheels go with the Type S chains unless you use spacers. I use the HDDS07 Diamond Type "S" from tirechain.com. Last year I ran them on the back. This year I'm using them on the front but with spacers. Here's a vid from a few weeks ago.
When I was up there last weekend there was no snow to speak of.
|01-01-2014 11:47 AM|
|HRPinDC||That's great information Kawa, thanks much. I am hoping to plan a second trip down there soon. Another friend just bought a JK and is itching to get it dirty. The one thing I will likely need based on your recommendations are tire chains.|
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