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07-22-2013 10:46 PM
daavid3 Ok, I installed the Sub and the speakers at the head unit. Now I am on to the tweeters. I removed the factory ones and obviously the connector is not the same on the factory wires as on the JL tweeter.. Are there harnesses I can get (as I did with the speakers) or how do I connect them to the factory wiring?
07-16-2013 01:29 PM
riptide09
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Originally Posted by daavid3 View Post
Yea thanks. I will just do that..

How about the front speakers? Did you need a bracket for those?

Again....I did mine just by mounting them to the stock enclosure with no problem. Yours might be different.
07-16-2013 11:59 AM
daavid3
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Originally Posted by riptide09 View Post
But if you get a bracket make sure to get a routing tool like a dremel. Youll need to route the opening to a larger size in order for it to fit properly
Yea thanks. I will just do that..

How about the front speakers? Did you need a bracket for those?
07-16-2013 12:25 AM
riptide09 But if you get a bracket make sure to get a routing tool like a dremel. Youll need to route the opening to a larger size in order for it to fit properly
07-16-2013 12:24 AM
riptide09 Mine is a 2013 and i was able to screw mine in just fine. Just gotta get the speaker positioned just right.
07-16-2013 12:19 AM
daavid3
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Originally Posted by riptide09 View Post
Dont buy an adapter bracket. I installed the same speakers two weeks ago in my soundbar and the bracket doesnt fit, and even if you dremel the bracket out it is still unnecessary. Mount the speaker directly into the plastic on the soundbar. 1 screw at the top and bottom and one on each side will suffice. I mounted my speakers this way and have had zero issues. Then just take the stock soundbar speaker covers and attach them to the soundbar and you're good to go!

I was planning to do this today. There is really just not enough plastic there to screw it on on all 4 sides.. I think a bracket is the only way I can do it
07-15-2013 11:25 AM
riptide09
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Originally Posted by st1264 View Post
^ Need an adapter bracket. Buy one or make one if you are up to it. If guys have said that they fit, then there is a way to do it.

Dont buy an adapter bracket. I installed the same speakers two weeks ago in my soundbar and the bracket doesnt fit, and even if you dremel the bracket out it is still unnecessary. Mount the speaker directly into the plastic on the soundbar. 1 screw at the top and bottom and one on each side will suffice. I mounted my speakers this way and have had zero issues. Then just take the stock soundbar speaker covers and attach them to the soundbar and you're good to go!
07-15-2013 09:37 AM
ahsumtoy
Here is what I did

I have a 2013 JKU that came with the premium Alpine system. Yes, it was a joke. I couldn't even hear the sub and the speakers sucked. It was so bad, my wife even said to get it fixed. What you need is premium speakers that are marine quality and 4 ohms (I used the Hybrids because they are number 1 rated in England, and you can use the tweeter from the speakers to put into the tweeter area on your dash), a good sub, and a good 5-chan amp. You don't have to get rid of your HU to retain all the functions on your steering wheel, etc. I know because I did it and everything works. I even put a remote knob in my console for my sub-woofer so I can control it. This is not a cheap option, but my system Rocks. I can turn it up all the way (it will kill your ears) and there is no distortion or clipping. It will cost about $1,200 which should include a shop doing it.

Here is what I used:

o (2) 6.5” Hybrid Audio Imagine Speakers for Dash 161-2
o (2) 6.5” ARC Audio Speakers for Light Bar XD1602
o (2) Hybrid Audio Tweeters going into Dash Tweeters (from above spkr)
o Kenwood 5-Chan Amplifier under Driver's Seat x700-5
o 8” JL Audio Subwoofer 8W1v2
o Stinger 8 GA Pro wiring kit SPK5681R
o Stinger 12’ 4chan RCA SI4412
o PAC RCA Line Level Controller LC1
o AAMP Gold RCA Couplers GRCAS
o PAC 2ch Adj LOC with Auto Remote SOEMT
o PAC 4ch Line Output Converter SOEM4
07-15-2013 09:10 AM
st1264 ^ Need an adapter bracket. Buy one or make one if you are up to it. If guys have said that they fit, then there is a way to do it.
07-14-2013 11:20 PM
daavid3 I went with the JL C2-650... I went to install it today at the sound bar and I couldn't do it.. Has anyone installed these and can help?

The speaker size is the same however the plastic housing for the speaker has no clear area of where to drill holes to mount the new speakers... The do I use the included grill or reuse the original or both? they both seem like they would fit..

But most importantly, how to I mount the new speaker on? I thought it would be a bit simpler with just bolt on.. or a clear area of where to drill it too... Is there maybe something I can buy that would make it fit properly?
07-06-2013 12:35 PM
VertigoTX
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Originally Posted by MangoTango34 View Post
I did the polyfill. Notice a little difference, but would like more. What does it require to get a new amp? Like how hard and what do i need to buy? How much would it help?
I should have kept reading to see that you already did this.

J
07-06-2013 12:32 PM
VertigoTX
Polyfill is definately worth the $3 investment

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Originally Posted by gorillahydrographics View Post
If you want bass, forget the poly fill
I'd have to disagree with this but only a little. While the polyfill is not some amazing upgrade, there is a measurable benefit if done right, and is worth the small time and couple of dollars to do it.

If you stuff it full, but not tight, it will alter the bass response due to the altered volume of the enclosure. It will also either stop or diminish the rattle from the enclosure when vibrated by the bass. For me, it stopped the rattle and allowed me to increase the bass setting on the head unit by two clicks.

With the windows up, the top on, and a good source (not satellite)... I now have "decent bass for a stock head unit" up until around volume 22, and then I can hear the base rolloff. It's still not enough to enjoy long term, but it was a $3 investment that made my short drive to/from work more enjoyable while I continue to plan my future upgrades.
07-06-2013 11:31 AM
st1264
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Originally Posted by daavid3 View Post
Would the JL - XD700/5 be sufficient?
Maybe... make sure to check the recommended power range for your sub before buying, however. Match everything up to the amp output.
07-06-2013 11:01 AM
daavid3
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Originally Posted by st1264 View Post
If you are running 4 high performance speakers you will need an amp for them and another for your sub... unless you buy a 5 channel amp.

I had a JL Slash 75x4 running my full range speakers & JL 500x1 running my subs (in a previous vehicle). Sounded great.

Would the JL - XD700/5 be sufficient?
07-06-2013 10:17 AM
st1264 If you are running 4 high performance speakers you will need an amp for them and another for your sub... unless you buy a 5 channel amp.

I had a JL Slash 75x4 running my full range speakers & JL 500x1 running my subs (in a previous vehicle). Sounded great.
07-06-2013 01:29 AM
daavid3
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Originally Posted by daavid3 View Post
Awesome guys appreciate all the help.

So here is what I got going so far..

ZR100-CT - JL Audio Evolution ZR Series 1" aluminum dome tweeter

JL Audio 8W3V3-4 8" Single 4-Ohm W3V3 Series Subwoofer

JL Audio C2-650X Evolution™ Series 6-1/2" 2-way car speakers
these are for the front or sound bar? Or do I just get 4 of these?

Can I get away with an AMP such as
Jl Audio Jx500/1d Mono Subwoofer Amplifier - 500 Watts RMS X 1 At 2 Ohms


Does this setup work? Any suggestions?

THANK YOU GUYS!! Much apprec
Or should I go with something like XD600/1 - JL Audio 600 Watt Class D Monoblock Subwoofer Amplifier
07-06-2013 12:38 AM
daavid3
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Originally Posted by st1264 View Post
Go to a car audio place and listen on the board... definitely get components for the front, with good tweeters. Tweeters are also a subjective thing, everyone's ears are different.

As for JL or Kicker, I like Kicker subs, JL amps/subs are fantastic, but my opinion is that there may be better price vs performance speakers out there for you. Like was already posted, depends on your ears and your wallet. $150 Alpine components may sound as good as $300 JL components to you, so go listen.
Awesome guys appreciate all the help.

So here is what I got going so far..

ZR100-CT - JL Audio Evolution ZR Series 1" aluminum dome tweeter

JL Audio 8W3V3-4 8" Single 4-Ohm W3V3 Series Subwoofer

JL Audio C2-650X Evolution™ Series 6-1/2" 2-way car speakers
these are for the front or sound bar? Or do I just get 4 of these?

Can I get away with an AMP such as
Jl Audio Jx500/1d Mono Subwoofer Amplifier - 500 Watts RMS X 1 At 2 Ohms


Does this setup work? Any suggestions?

THANK YOU GUYS!! Much apprec
07-05-2013 12:25 PM
n00g7 Alpine, JL or Polk, pass on the rest. Buy any of those off amazon or crutchfield and you'll be happy.
07-05-2013 12:12 PM
st1264
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Originally Posted by daavid3 View Post
Do you suggest I go with Kicker? Or something like JL?
I can just disconnect the existing speakers and simply plug in the new ones? Or do I need wiring harnesses of any kind?
Go to a car audio place and listen on the board... definitely get components for the front, with good tweeters. Tweeters are also a subjective thing, everyone's ears are different.

As for JL or Kicker, I like Kicker subs, JL amps/subs are fantastic, but my opinion is that there may be better price vs performance speakers out there for you. Like was already posted, depends on your ears and your wallet. $150 Alpine components may sound as good as $300 JL components to you, so go listen.
07-05-2013 10:22 AM
woansleftpeg
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Originally Posted by daavid3 View Post
Do you suggest I go with Kicker? Or something like JL?
I can just disconnect the existing speakers and simply plug in the new ones? Or do I need wiring harnesses of any kind?

Thanks
Which speakers you choose will be driven by a number of things, primarily your budget. Ask ten people what speakers to get and you'll receive ten different answers, and none of them will be right because they're just going to tell you what they bought, not necessarily what's best for you.

You can either rewire, or re-use the factory wiring. Rewiring is a good thing to do but time consuming and not really necessary, it depends on how much time and effort you want to invest. If you use the stock wiring you can either buy converters for the factory plugs, or cut them off and wire directly. I recommend the converters.
07-05-2013 10:18 AM
daavid3
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Originally Posted by woansleftpeg View Post
You can easily upgrade without replacing the head unit. Your best option is probably to leave the amp in place as well, use line output converters on the signals from the factory amp to connect to an aftermarket amp, and replace all the speakers including the subwoofer.

Do you suggest I go with Kicker? Or something like JL?
I can just disconnect the existing speakers and simply plug in the new ones? Or do I need wiring harnesses of any kind?

Thanks
07-05-2013 09:17 AM
st1264
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Originally Posted by daavid3 View Post
I am really confused.. I have a 2013 JKUR with the premium sounds and the 720N piece of crap system.. What a waste.. Should have gotten a bare sport and upgraded EVERYTHING..
I don't think I am wanting to upgrade my HU since I paid so much for this crap.. It would make me feel retarded doing so..
I suggest you rip everything out... you could always sell the 720N on the forum or CL. Believe it or not, there are people who are satisfied with their JK sound system

Those of us who know good sound realize it's garbage that we overpaid for
07-05-2013 08:21 AM
01svtL
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Originally Posted by daavid3 View Post
I am really confused.. I have a 2013 JKUR with the premium sounds and the 720N piece of crap system.. What a waste.. Should have gotten a bare sport and upgraded EVERYTHING.. Kinda like what I am doing now anyway.. Except I would have been 15k+ Richer...

Anyway.. I am confused.. I want to.. I NEED to upgrade.. my sound is nauseating me and the people around me. It is embarrassing in fact. Especiually when I am rolling down the street, doors off, roof off, music blasting. Very unattractive with this level of shitty sound.
Money is no option. I want to start with replacing all the speakers. And then moving on to the more difficult things like Amp what not.. I am a total newbie to this. Does this make sense? If so, what are all the speaker sizes? And how do I replace this garbage "sub woofer" I will try to find the best possible speakers out there.

I have been reading thread on threads and my head now hurts.
I will poly-fill this week but that is just to hold me over till I start swapping the garbage out.
I don't think I am wanting to upgrade my HU since I paid so much for this crap.. It would make me feel retarded doing so..
I switched out the sub and added an amp. While it's better than factory, it still isn't very good. It sounds like it is bottoming out. I'm thinking it's because the enclosure is too small for the sub. So, in a week or two, I plan on buying this sub: Sundown Audio SD 2 8 D4 8" Slim Mount Sub Dual 4 Ohms Shallow Bass Subwoofer | eBay

and running a more powerful amp to it. Sundown is a great brand, and this particular sub is designed to run in a .25 cuft enclosure. I would guess the stock enclosure is between .25-.30. Closer to .25 once you line the entire thing with dynamat. Hopefully this will handle my bass problem. I also switched out the front tweeters for a pair of polk 1" and it cleaned up the "muddiness" in the front a little. I have the factory Alpine upgrade as well, btw.
07-05-2013 07:46 AM
woansleftpeg You can easily upgrade without replacing the head unit. Your best option is probably to leave the amp in place as well, use line output converters on the signals from the factory amp to connect to an aftermarket amp, and replace all the speakers including the subwoofer.
07-05-2013 02:01 AM
daavid3
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Originally Posted by daavid3 View Post
I am really confused.. I have a 2013 JKUR with the premium sounds and the 720N piece of crap system.. What a waste.. Should have gotten a bare sport and upgraded EVERYTHING.. Kinda like what I am doing now anyway.. Except I would have been 15k+ Richer...

Anyway.. I am confused.. I want to.. I NEED to upgrade.. my sound is nauseating me and the people around me. It is embarrassing in fact. Especiually when I am rolling down the street, doors off, roof off, music blasting. Very unattractive with this level of shitty sound.
Money is no option. I want to start with replacing all the speakers. And then moving on to the more difficult things like Amp what not.. I am a total newbie to this. Does this make sense? If so, what are all the speaker sizes? And how do I replace this garbage "sub woofer" I will try to find the best possible speakers out there.

I have been reading thread on threads and my head now hurts.
I will poly-fill this week but that is just to hold me over till I start swapping the garbage out.
I don't think I am wanting to upgrade my HU since I paid so much for this crap.. It would make me feel retarded doing so..

Did some more research and it looks like there is no solution without swapping the head unit.. I guess I was just venting is all...
07-05-2013 01:42 AM
daavid3 I am really confused.. I have a 2013 JKUR with the premium sounds and the 720N piece of crap system.. What a waste.. Should have gotten a bare sport and upgraded EVERYTHING.. Kinda like what I am doing now anyway.. Except I would have been 15k+ Richer...

Anyway.. I am confused.. I want to.. I NEED to upgrade.. my sound is nauseating me and the people around me. It is embarrassing in fact. Especiually when I am rolling down the street, doors off, roof off, music blasting. Very unattractive with this level of shitty sound.
Money is no option. I want to start with replacing all the speakers. And then moving on to the more difficult things like Amp what not.. I am a total newbie to this. Does this make sense? If so, what are all the speaker sizes? And how do I replace this garbage "sub woofer" I will try to find the best possible speakers out there.

I have been reading thread on threads and my head now hurts.
I will poly-fill this week but that is just to hold me over till I start swapping the garbage out.
I don't think I am wanting to upgrade my HU since I paid so much for this crap.. It would make me feel retarded doing so..
06-04-2013 01:40 PM
st1264
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Originally Posted by CoreyZ View Post
To the non-discernable ear, replacing speakers helps. Mainly because even the stock infinity speakers are kinda crappy. Better drivers help make it a little clearer. It wont help with power, but it can help with clarity and sound distribution.
Agreed. But JK's have horrible a HU, speakers and Amp. Add in the importance of sound deadening material, proper amp/speaker matching and crossover networks. The one guy swapped the speakers and is only getting a small percentage improvement.

The person who replaces everything will have a 10 fold improvement over just swapping the speakers. Underpower your upgraded speakers and they may sound good at low volumes, turn them up and they'll distort like hell.
06-04-2013 01:40 PM
woansleftpeg
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Originally Posted by MangoTango34 View Post
so could I get this for my 2011 2 door? if so I would wanna take the stock sub out. and how would I get the piece that covers up that spot where the sub was that comes in the sports that never had a sub?
You'll have to buy it as a Mopar part, I believe it's about a hundred bucks but you can sell your sub version for considerably more.
06-04-2013 01:38 PM
woansleftpeg
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Originally Posted by st1264 View Post
Sounds like an upgrade over stock but you still need appropriate power and crossovers to run the upgraded speakers properly. Even with the premium system's tiny amp, they are underpowered. Best thing to do is to replace everything. Some people are happy with mediocre sounding audio, but many of us who've swapped audio in all of our vehicles know the difference.
I'm curious to know more about this JK-specific set of JL speakers that includes a replacement component set and is available as a package for $169. I'm presuming they're TRs, which despite being the bottom of JL's range are still excellent speakers because JL don't make crap, but without additional amplification they're not going to be great because the stock amplifier is barely pushing the bottom end of their operating range.
06-04-2013 01:32 PM
MangoTango34
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Originally Posted by panthermark View Post
Found what I was looking for:

77kick46 is the 2007-2010 premium system amp. 77kck056 is the 2011+ premium system amp.

Seems like the 4.1 channel non premium amp would make more sense, because the factory amp only uses 6 channels...with two of those going to the sub.
In these Kicker systems, there is a separate amp that powers the Kicker sub. I would think that I would think that the Kicker 2 amp system (minus the sub) would an excellent near drop-in upgrade...especially if the factory sub wiring/harness could be used.



http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/kic...ml#post2444682



This is the Kicker sub system....you can see the sub amp.




Basically...for a 2011+, 4 door, premium system, I need the 77KCK052 sub system (minus the sub...so just the amp and harness) and the 77KCK056 amp. But I'm not sure of how to connect the sub amp output to to the wiring for the factory sub. It would be a simple connection harness the Kicker needs to make.
so could I get this for my 2011 2 door? if so I would wanna take the stock sub out. and how would I get the piece that covers up that spot where the sub was that comes in the sports that never had a sub?
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