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02-07-2014 07:17 PM
littlebaler I have the 2013 Rubicon Unlimited, 10A model. It has the tow package and rear springs ending in 009AA . I have a lean of 1 inch plus on the passenger side and does not appear to change when filling the tank. The dealer who has been very cooperative,(service manger) have went out of their way to fix this. One new shock on the left , no change. Today we swapped the rear springs with no change. It looks like shit to me, my 3rd Rubicon and the first issue I have had. There is something wrong with the way the spring mounts are hung, track bar length? but it is not right. I have been told there are no solutions other than to live with it. I spent a long time waiting for this 10A , paid full price The weight of the fuel is total BS. How do we know this may not be a safety issue? I was told today that Chrysler says this is normal and acceptable so now I am on my own to figure out a way to shim it?
01-29-2014 08:01 PM
mortuar
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Originally Posted by rmkscott View Post
mortuar - just wondering what came of your trip to the dealership?
I actually haven't made it out. I threw a tape measure on the front of the Jeep the morning I was supposed to head out and it was around 1/4inch lower on the passenger side now (versus the 1inch or so before).

I'm going to wait until Friday, measure it again, and then determine if I need to make the 1.5 hour trip out to the dealer.
01-28-2014 05:01 PM
rmkscott mortuar - just wondering what came of your trip to the dealership?
01-23-2014 08:36 PM
mortuar Side note though - I thought my passenger front was sagging... but when I take a step back and look at it (and based on how it handles in turns), I think maybe the front driver's spring is too stiff. It sits with very little rake on the driver's side (almost looks like it has a leveling kit). Also seems more bouncy on that side when hitting bumps on the highway. I'll let them decide that at the dealership when I take it in, just wanted to share that thought.
01-23-2014 08:33 PM
mortuar I talked to the dealer where I purchased this 2014, and he put me in contact with the service manager at the dealership. I explained to him what I am seeing and he told me that's one of the most strange things he's ever heard of in regards to a brand new stock JK suspension.

I'm scheduled to take it in early Saturday morning (a 1.5hr drive) so they can stick it on their laser alignment machine. He told me there should be *zero* sag on any corner of the JK other than normal settling. He said this is indicative of a poorly wound spring, wrong spring, or spring not seated correctly in it's perch - and this is the first he's heard of it with a brand new stock/unmodified (now just about a week off the lot) Wrangler.

I'll let you guys know how the service appointment goes. I honestly don't see how sticking a puck on the side that sags to compensate really makes any sense. The suspension on a vehicle with less than 100 miles on it should be pretty square... I can't think of a single valid reason for it to be any other way. I've owned 4 previous JKU's (one X, one sport, two Rubicons) and none of them sat leaning like this. *shrug*
01-19-2014 01:46 PM
m998dna
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Originally Posted by PAPADOC View Post
Put on your other shoe!!
Are you implying I have big feet?

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01-19-2014 10:09 AM
rmkscott My 10A has the same sag on the passenger side front. I installed a 2.5 coil lift and it's still 1" lower in the passenger front. The lift manufacturer even sent me new coils and it still is just lower on that corner. I Installed a 3/4" spacer yesterday and it helped so guess I will have to put a 1" spacer on that spring.
01-19-2014 08:27 AM
dwindeck Just looking at mine, I can't see the difference...but put a tape measure on it from a level surface to points on the frame and it's there.
01-19-2014 01:46 AM
PAPADOC Put on your other shoe!!
01-19-2014 01:31 AM
m998dna How come mine doesn't lean?

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01-18-2014 10:51 PM
dwindeck Most jk's will lean a bit on the passenger side. If you have ever looked, the engine, transmission, transfer case are off center to that side. Add the fuel tank and fuel
To that also. Mine and a friends with almost identical lifts bumpers ect. sit 1/4" low on the passenger side.
01-18-2014 02:25 AM
BILLET SILVER
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Originally Posted by manc1n1 View Post
My brand new 2013 10th Anniversary Rubicon 4-Door leans a couple inches to the passenger side and I don't know why. I don't know if it's normal or how to fix it. Any advice?
Your JK is saying LIFT ME! Please LIFT ME! give me a new suspension.
01-18-2014 02:17 AM
hbski
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Originally Posted by gsn View Post
Normal. Some people say it is because of the gas tank, others because it is direction in which engine torque is constantly applied on a wrangler, bla bla. I just know people fix it by using coil spacers on the right coil that has the most sag, or both right coils, 1" for example.

Measure the left and right coils from where they sit, up to the frame, to know how much its leaning. Then you can get spacers closer to the amount.
Anyone just swap the coils between passenger and driver sides to see if it evens out after a bit???
01-18-2014 01:06 AM
mortuar What ever happened with this OP? I just bought a new 2014 JKU Rubicon a day ago, it has ~140 miles on it now. Sags on the passenger side about an inch - and I'm at about 1/2 a tank of gas. It's super noticeable too - especially how the hood lines up (or doesn't, rather) with my garage when I park. I thought I had a tire that was going flat at first.

My rear fenders are identical heights off the ground. My passenger fender is about an inch lower from the ground - and it's super apparent when looking at the distance between the top of the tire and where the fender starts.

I've owned 4 JKUs prior to this... and never once had this issue.
06-12-2013 06:51 PM
SilverSport
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Originally Posted by manc1n1 View Post
I know lmao! I have a shell gas station near me that said they can fix it if my dealership doesn't
That's funny.
06-12-2013 06:39 PM
manc1n1
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Originally Posted by SilverSport View Post
I wouldn't be surprised if Chrysler's response is "It's normal".
I know lmao! I have a shell gas station near me that said they can fix it if my dealership doesn't
06-12-2013 05:12 PM
m998dna
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Originally Posted by SilverSport View Post
I wouldn't be surprised if Chrysler's response is "It's normal".
I had a $62K 2005 Toyota Land Cruiser that leaned 1/2" ... I complained and that was their exact response, with the added statement "the specificaton is 0.5" lean tolerance."

I asked them for the engineering and assembly drawing that stated this specification. In the end I just laughed and cranked the front driver side torsion bar so the damn thing sat level.

If you look at mid-2000 Land Cruisers, you see this lean. I believe it's designed in help with front impact stats.

My 10A sits level side-to-side with my odd-ball 10A rear springs.

06-12-2013 04:42 PM
SilverSport I wouldn't be surprised if Chrysler's response is "It's normal".
06-12-2013 04:41 PM
manc1n1
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Originally Posted by 2five22 View Post
A US gallon of gasoline weighs 6.073 pounds. A JK holds 18.6 gallons. A full tank of fuel weighs 112.96 pounds.

I suffered through some petroleum engineering classes.
I have a quarter tank and it's still the same lean
06-12-2013 04:41 PM
manc1n1
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Originally Posted by SeayJ7 View Post
Any news from dealership on the lean?
They emailed Chrysler, should get back to me soon
06-11-2013 10:05 PM
2five22 A US gallon of gasoline weighs 6.073 pounds. A JK holds 18.6 gallons. A full tank of fuel weighs 112.96 pounds.

I suffered through some petroleum engineering classes.
06-11-2013 07:59 PM
SeayJ7 Any news from dealership on the lean?
06-09-2013 08:05 AM
HK_Runner My 2012 leans a bit to the passenger side as well- .5"-.75".
06-09-2013 12:32 AM
m998dna Mine started at 22.5" at all four corners when brand new and the front settled in and lost .5".

The following is from my post on 4-22.....

Mine measures 22.0" front and 22.5" rear... center hub to bottom of fender lips.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/201...ml#post3671356

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06-09-2013 12:06 AM
MrT
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Originally Posted by m998dna View Post

Measure from the center hub to bottom of the fender lip at the radius... front and back ... both sides. Post that up and I will compare to mine. In one of these threads I documented mine when it was new.
I get front driver 21 3/4. Rear driver 21 1/2. Front passenger 21 3/8 and rear passenger 21 1/8. Center hub straight up to lowest edge of fender.
06-08-2013 11:41 PM
m998dna
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Originally Posted by MrT View Post
Great. Do you think I'm sittin a little low?



Measure from the center hub to bottom of the fender lip at the radius... front and back ... both sides. Post that up and I will compare to mine. In one of these threads I documented mine when it was new.
06-08-2013 11:09 PM
MrT
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Originally Posted by m998dna View Post
I did a quick parts search and found this ... 2012 Rubicon rear right/left spring.

They must have ran out of 10A springs.

SPRING LEFT for 2012 Jeep Wrangler|68024461AA

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Great. Do you think I'm sittin a little low?



06-08-2013 07:49 PM
m998dna
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Originally Posted by MrT View Post
I have tow package 4 door and 68024461AA rear and 68196006AA front. Is this right??
I did a quick parts search and found this ... 2012 Rubicon rear right/left spring.

They must have ran out of 10A springs.

SPRING LEFT for 2012 Jeep Wrangler|68024461AA

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06-07-2013 11:28 PM
m998dna
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Originally Posted by MrT View Post
I have tow package 4 door and 68024461AA rear and 68196006AA front. Is this right??
I don't know... mines loaded with painted hardtop and fenders. I'd be interested to find out what the difference is.. we need a thread with model, options, spring PN's and measurements to compare.

I've always thought mine rides a little higher in the rear than some I've seen in photos on this site.

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06-07-2013 10:48 PM
MrT
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Originally Posted by m998dna View Post

Now I wonder if I have the correct rear springs. Mine indicate they are newer PN's in sequence with the fronts.

You guys have HD tow package?

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I have tow package 4 door and 68024461AA rear and 68196006AA front. Is this right??
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