|04-16-2014 10:14 AM|
|Bullethead||Oh no I'm just speaking as if all of us are non-book readers. Thank you for not spoiling|
|04-16-2014 08:48 AM|
Re: Cersei as the puppetmaster behind the poisoning: It's an interesting theory; I'm trying not to be spoiler'ish in my responses, so I'll just ask if you want any kind of confirmation that it is, or isn't, a correct train of thought?
|04-16-2014 07:55 AM|
The book does sound just awesome. I'd love to read them, I'm 1/3rd of the way through Book 1, but Season 1 was almost verbatim I kind of want to skip to book two or three.
Back to the show, is Bronn as awesome in the book as he is in the show?
Another "unsullied" had a theory that Cersei offed Jofferey. They pointed to her wanting to remain queen regent, not wanting to marry Loras, and perhaps trying to kill Margery but accidently killing Joffery.
I think its a bit of a stretch but a good number of people I've spoken with like Cersei as the assassin. The only thing I found suspicious of her was sending away Maester Aamon. I did not get the point of that at all.
|04-15-2014 08:47 PM|
|SupahMinah||Read the books watched both the wedding scenes and thought they were both awesome. The show stays true to the book but not the same.|
|04-15-2014 02:39 PM|
|st1264||I'd be shaking in my boots if invited to a wedding in Westeros|
|04-15-2014 11:35 AM|
|Cjpe3||I think they are just building up to death by dragons!!!!|
|04-15-2014 11:11 AM|
According to an interview with the director, episode is the shortest.
He did also state episode 10 was going to be unreal
|04-15-2014 09:59 AM|
* I am very interested in how they play out the Shea/Tyrion thing, because in the book it leads to something very significant.
* They will have to get to Littlefinger soon, I'll be shocked if he isn't in the next episode. His hand is in everybody's cookie jar.
* I agree about Bronn; can never have too much of him.
My husband is the one who got me to start reading the books quite a few years ago, and I'm not sure I've seen him express more frustration about anything as he has about how long it takes Martin to release the next book.
|04-15-2014 06:01 AM|
I will say Episode 2 this season did feel ... I don't want to say rushed because the final scene was awesome and well drawn out, but I do think a few story lines were shoved along.
-Shea and Tyrion, like thats just over now? Just like that?
-Jon is well at the wall, all healed up, the trial took 15 seconds.
-(Where the hell is littlefinger's story line?)
-Red priestess burns more people, oh that was fun. What purpose did that serve in the episode?
-Could have done for more Jamie and Tyrion / Jamie and Bronn. (Anything with more Bronn is welcome).
The lady of the house has me reading Dunk and Egg or something right now. His writings not terrible, a few too many sentences that are paragraph in length leave me crosseyed now and then but its nothing different than what i've read before.
Personally, I don't know how he still has fans when this series started in the god damn 90s. I'd have burned his house down or something for making me wait like that. All of his side projects that he spends time on instead of writing.
|04-14-2014 04:03 PM|
But really, it's probably because the series doesn't follow the books' timelines; they condense a lot (lets face it, in all of the books there's a lot of time just spent wandering around lands and having conversations ), and they incorporate and include parts of a character's story that actually happen later in the books just to save time while preserving who that character is. His books go off in so many branches that they have to condense, and even sometimes mesh two characters and their backgrounds/stories together.
The show is phenomenal at portraying the essence of these characters in a much more condensed, workable version than Martin ever could.
|04-14-2014 03:56 PM|
|Kthulhu||Having read the first four books in the series with no plans to read the fifth I actually like the tv series better. Martin has a great setting and great characters but his writing does nothing for me. I honestly think he killed off characters in the book (no names) simply because he couldn't figure out what to do with them anymore. Nothing like investing a few hours reading about a character that comes to an untimely demise for no reason. Plus in the series one of my favorite characters that was killed off in the book is still alive.|
|04-14-2014 10:27 AM|
|Cdwright||The scene with the hound and arya in ep 1 was great. They did get their chickens. Lol|
|04-14-2014 10:14 AM|
|04-14-2014 10:01 AM|
Indeed but not many have the stones to do it.
Me thinks it was a joint assassination by Tywin and the Old Lady Tyrell. I am not sure why the Tyrell's would want him dead but I for sure know Tywin would do it. If nothing more than to put a "Listen to PaPa" in Cersei and Jamie. He's heard the rumors, Jamie disobeyed him by declining going to Lannisport. This could have been Tywin's reaction to that.
But Old Lady Tyrell had said to Sansa something along the lines of "So horrible to see a death at a wedding".
So I suppose Tomin is now King? Cersei go back to being Queen Regent ?
|04-14-2014 09:44 AM|
I have to admit that part of me is jealous of the viewers who haven't read the books yet; I'd much rather watch the series not knowing anything.
As for who killed Joffrey? The line is looooooong, with everyone fighting to be first.
|04-14-2014 08:25 AM|
Lol. My lady friend has been rather upset with that dynamic these first two episodes. I guess she's ready for something HUGE to happen and each episode it doesn't she gets grumpy.
As for me, an "unsullied" viewer only, it was a great episode. I was waiting for the narrator from the end of the Rocky and Bulwinkle cartoons to come in. "Did Tyrion murder his nephew the King?; What will happen to Margery now?; Does Breanne ever learn to curtsey? Find out next time onnn Game of Thrones"
But it was a very good final scene, good lord there was tension for like 15 minutes it was great! I have a theory and I think i'm pretty spot on about who done it.
|04-14-2014 06:52 AM|
|04-14-2014 06:35 AM|
|Bullethead||Anyone watched these first two episodes?|
|06-13-2013 11:34 AM|
|CoreyZ||Yeah, bit of a weak ending.... now I really am hoping Denny gets her ass across the sea fast and starts melting faces.|
|06-11-2013 08:14 PM|
|Saharacane||I'm very surprised Roose Bolton didn't kill Frey then and there when they were cleaning up after the Red Wedding. He had it in his eyes that Old Man Frey is going down.|
|06-11-2013 08:16 AM|
I had to wait 20 whole hours !! HBO Go fail sunday night.
Ha yea Yvgrit shot him with love arrows, I was waiting for her to say "I love you" after he rode off. The only thing I didn't like about this episode was that it didn't end with an "Oh Shit" moment like the last 2 finale's have. Although we could come back in Season 4 and Dany has been turned into a rotisserie by her "children" lol.
It was good seeing Arya get some revenge, Nice little Arya and the Hound disney movie we have coming up ahead of us. That was Effed up what the Frey army did to Robb and his Dire wolf in this ep.
|06-10-2013 03:51 PM|
A little anti-climactic but still interesting. John Snow got f'd up by his ex-gf and Aria is now a little killer...
|06-10-2013 10:59 AM|
|hbgirl||So the season finale last night was a little blah after last week's episode, yes?|
|06-07-2013 04:06 PM|
|06-07-2013 09:56 AM|
Ok... wow... that episode was harsh!
Im not a reader (yet, waiting till the shows are done)... and having all those characters that I had such high hopes for all die... wow. I seriously hope Fray gets mutilated now.
I saw snow leave his girl, but figured since the wildlings would have still let her stay in their group, it was safer for her to stay with them rather than taking her with him. I have a feeling (coming from a total non-reader standpoint) that he will be back and she will be with him and safe again.
|06-07-2013 08:56 AM|
And of course the books were better; ALL books are better than the movies/shows that come after them. It's not like you don't know that already, haha. You can't fit 2000 pages of book into 10 episodes; something has to give, and go, and be left out, and changed.
|06-07-2013 08:46 AM|
HBgirl, nailed it, loves to say the book was better. The biggest issue she had about last weeks ep. was the seen with Arya.
Apparently the Book led you to believe it was "Cold steel from the Hound on the back of her neck" or something which she took as holy hell he killed Arya. And she was a little upset that we the viewers weren't left hanging with that as well.
I think people would have just stopped watching if all them were killed in 20 seconds haha.
|06-06-2013 07:05 PM|
|06-05-2013 11:34 AM|
|st1264||Please no "Spoilers" as some of us prefer to watch the show...|
|06-05-2013 10:33 AM|
I don't believe the "unknowingly" part honestly; some bookreaders LOVE to complain/point out the differences, changes, etc. like they're experts (or the author themselves ). I'd just straight tell her that it's upsetting (and frankly, kinda rude). If you can't/won't do that, or it doesn't work, don't watch the show with her; can you watch in separate rooms or dvr and one of you watch it later?
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