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09-22-2013 08:58 AM
Ozark Wrangler
Ham radio

Ham radio is nice to have in the Jeep. Here we have alot of remote trails with no cell service, and CB is out of range. Have not found a trail yet that I could not find a repeater.
73,
K5NWS
09-05-2013 09:52 PM
Sccafire
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Originally Posted by Zed View Post
X2 above... Plus how did you mount the antenna? NMO? Where? Hood?
For my FT-8800 in my Jeep I used NMO on a Teraflex antenna mount for the passenger side. I also used a NMO mount for my FT-2900 in my CTD. With the Jeep I used a Diamond dual band antenna. The CTD I used a 1/4 wave antenna and mounted it on the roof.
09-05-2013 09:41 PM
Zed X2 above... Plus how did you mount the antenna? NMO? Where? Hood?
09-05-2013 11:46 AM
timedriver
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Originally Posted by rkwfxd View Post
FWIW if you get a HAM license (and I think more people should) your first radio should be a simple 2 meter mobile. I started with a Yaesu FT-60 dual band hand held. BIG mistake. PITA to program and super hard to make contact with anyone. Matter of fact, they sold me the computer software to program it when I bought the radio. That should have been a huge clue. Spent $200 on it and then probably close to another $100 on antennas until I found one that would work. Yes it was cool that ONE time when I was camped alone and had it out by my camp fire and talked to a guy in the next state. But otherwise, I have been disappointed in it. Heck when I want to listen to local nets I usually just use my scanner because I know the wont be able to hear me with my handheld anyway.

I then installed a Yaesu FT-2900 in my jeep. SUPER simple by comparison. I did not need a computer to program it and I can actually talk to folks with it. I wish more of my wheeling friends had HAM. I went out with a fellow HAM a couple weeks ago and it was so much nicer than the CB. Even after he lost a portion of his antenna it was as if we were sitting next to each other.
I have the 2900 as well....but what kind of antennae?
09-04-2013 11:28 AM
pefrey
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Originally Posted by sparky View Post
Do you want cool, how about access to satellites, or bouncing your signal off the moon, maybe talk with somebody on the international Space Station or an Antarctic research station.

Mine = blown. Thanks for the offer of help, I may take you up on it.
08-27-2013 11:39 AM
sparky Pefrey, your profile says New York, a quick look lists over 900 repeaters in the state so you should find coverage no matter where you are.

Once you get a license there are a lot more things you can do with radio than just use a HT. Thereís video, data, teletype, remote control, and more. Contests, public service, emergency communications, achievement awards. There are over 2 dozen different frequency bands we can use. A 1 W morse rig can work hundreds of miles. Some things get pricy, others are very low cost.

Do you want cool, how about access to satellites, or bouncing your signal off the moon, maybe talk with somebody on the international Space Station or an Antarctic research station.

If I come off sounding enthusiastic, itís because I am. Iíve been playing with radio for a long time.

The ARRL site is a good place to start. You can search there for a local club. PM me with questions if you want.
08-26-2013 10:15 AM
pefrey
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Originally Posted by Sccafire View Post
Another good reason to go ahead and get your HAM License. If you know the area of northern CA. I was at Buck Lake on the Rubicon Trail and talked to my wife in Sacramento. Probably close to 100+ miles or so. She sounded like she was standing next to me.

Very cool.
08-23-2013 07:46 PM
Sccafire Another good reason to go ahead and get your HAM License. If you know the area of northern CA. I was at Buck Lake on the Rubicon Trail and talked to my wife in Sacramento. Probably close to 100+ miles or so. She sounded like she was standing next to me.
08-23-2013 11:49 AM
pefrey I think your assessments of the different choices are spot on. MURS is attractive because it is license free, medium range and not popular / crowded so family use would be ideal.

GMRS not so good as everybody has to have a license. Ham on a MURS or FRS frequency seemed like the ticket but it sounds like that's not an option.

I've been on the ARRL website some, there is a LOT of information there.
08-23-2013 09:47 AM
sparky I did not say they were cheap. Itís a little used service, not many people are aware of it so no market for the radios.

Your choices;
CB - not too expensive, good enough range, lots of other people to talk to.
GMRS Ė not too expensive for the radios, license is $85 for 5 years, a little longer range than MURS
FRS Ė cheap radios, short range, 1/2W power limit
HAM Ė Chinese radios like the Baofeng are inexpensive and work fairly well, need a license, much greater range, most HTís are 5W, mobiles 50W, not as many users as CB or FRS.

Pefrey, take a look into getting the license. The Technician test is not that difficult. Basic electrical knowledge, knowing the rules, safety, and some common sense. You can self study with a book. The ARRL manual is excellent, with practice question that direct you back to the text so you know why an answer is correct. You can find a local club, some have classes. There are even one day sessions. Start early in the morning on the material, by late afternoon you are taking the test. If you want Iíll direct you where to find more information.
08-23-2013 09:12 AM
Ibuildembig A MURS radio? LMAO Any radio can be programmed to run on those freqs as long as its a programmable one.
08-23-2013 09:05 AM
pefrey
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Originally Posted by sparky View Post
Also you cannot transmit on MURS frequencies with a ham radio, license or not. If you want to use MURS, you need a MURS radio.
This does not make sense to me.

The only MURS radio that I can find that seems decent is the Motorola RMM2050 and it's not cheap. That's why I wanted to go with a handheld ham, lots more features too.

Motorola RMM2050 On-Site Two-Way Business Radio in 2-Way Radios | JR.com
08-22-2013 07:04 PM
Zed
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Originally Posted by pefrey View Post
I apologize if this is not the correct forum (Wrangler) to ask such questions, but I'm guessing a ham forum would eat me alive. Congratulations to those of you who have aquired the license.
Def the correct forum. Many of us newer hams have taken refuge here because the old guard on the ham forums are just plain rude. BTW the previous poster, Sparky, is excellent. I've learned a ton from his posts.
08-22-2013 03:32 PM
sparky
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That makes sense, but I thought the restriction (license required) applied to not only the frequencies, but the power. ie: I can't transmit on a MURS only radio (license free frequencies) at a power greater than 2W unless I have a license. 2W or less and it's all good. Therefore, it seems to me (which is why I'm asking) that if I have a HT ham radio (or vehicle mount for that matter), on a MURS freq, transmitting at less than 2W, I'm all good.

Part of the reason for this questioning is that I'd like to buy a HT ham radio and maybe one for my Jeep for exacly this purpose. I can get one for less than a MURS / 2 Watt radio and it has much greater capability if I decide to expand my horizons. (with licensing of course)
You cannot transmit on MURS with a power greater than 2W anytime. That service is restricted to 2W max. It does not matter weather you have a license or not. Also you cannot transmit on MURS frequencies with a ham radio, license or not. If you want to use MURS, you need a MURS radio.

MURS, FRS, and CB radios are designed to be chanel specific. They transmit on very specific frequencies. The ham service is different, we are allowed to use any frequency (in the amateur bands) that we want. By convention, in the VHF/UHF bands in the FM sub-band we tend to stay on specific frequencies for courtesy, but we do not have to.
08-22-2013 11:03 AM
BlueRidgeYJ
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Originally Posted by pefrey View Post
That makes sense, but I thought the restriction (license required) applied to not only the frequencies, but the power. ie: I can't transmit on a MURS only radio (license free frequencies) at a power greater than 2W unless I have a license. 2W or less and it's all good. Therefore, it seems to me (which is why I'm asking) that if I have a HT ham radio (or vehicle mount for that matter), on a MURS freq, transmitting at less than 2W, I'm all good.

Part of the reason for this questioning is that I'd like to buy a HT ham radio and maybe one for my Jeep for exacly this purpose. I can get one for less than a MURS / 2 Watt radio and it has much greater capability if I decide to expand my horizons. (with licensing of course)
Close... you can't transmit without a license. With a license, you cannot exceed X watts of broadcast (x varying by band).
08-22-2013 10:49 AM
pefrey I apologize if this is not the correct forum (Wrangler) to ask such questions, but I'm guessing a ham forum would eat me alive. Congratulations to those of you who have aquired the license.
08-22-2013 10:13 AM
pefrey That makes sense, but I thought the restriction (license required) applied to not only the frequencies, but the power. ie: I can't transmit on a MURS only radio (license free frequencies) at a power greater than 2W unless I have a license. 2W or less and it's all good. Therefore, it seems to me (which is why I'm asking) that if I have a HT ham radio (or vehicle mount for that matter), on a MURS freq, transmitting at less than 2W, I'm all good.

Part of the reason for this questioning is that I'd like to buy a HT ham radio and maybe one for my Jeep for exacly this purpose. I can get one for less than a MURS / 2 Watt radio and it has much greater capability if I decide to expand my horizons. (with licensing of course)
08-22-2013 09:35 AM
sparky Anyone can own a ham radio. You need a license to transmit on amateur frequencies.

Other services, such as MURS/FRS, require type acceptance radioís. No one can legally transmit with a ham radio on MURS/FRS frequencies. You need a radio designed for that service.

Receiving is different, no license is needed. You can use any radio you want, to listen to anything you want (except for certain cell frequencies).
08-22-2013 08:58 AM
pefrey So a non-licensed citizen cannot own a Ham radio? Or is it that transmission capability on restricted frequencies (license required) cannot be accessible to non-licenced operators? Or something else?
08-21-2013 04:28 PM
OhSixTJ
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Originally Posted by pefrey View Post
I've been looking into dual band hand-held HAM radios lately and have a question:

Can I can get a HT like the Boafeng UV5R and operate it without a licence as long as I stay on the MURS or FRS frequencies which are license free?

I could monitor any of the other frequencies.

(MURS I'd be limited to 2W of transmit, FRS .5W)

Technically yes, legally no.
08-21-2013 03:37 PM
pefrey I've been looking into dual band hand-held HAM radios lately and have a question:

Can I can get a HT like the Boafeng UV5R and operate it without a licence as long as I stay on the MURS or FRS frequencies which are license free?

I could monitor any of the other frequencies.

(MURS I'd be limited to 2W of transmit, FRS .5W)
08-18-2013 09:45 PM
moscoeb
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Originally Posted by k2epm View Post
So... I am planning on mounting my antenna mount under the hood on the left side fender support and with the battery on the right side of my 2013 JK I am wondering if you have any tips for running the power cables and coax through the firewall.
Should be a rubber grommet on either side of the cab just under the dash.
In my 11 it was secured in place, but inwas able to cut a small hole an feed the wire through. It feels double walled, so I have no fear of it leaking. It is probably 2in diameter. Grab a light and look for it under your dash. Easy to see if you look high enough.
08-18-2013 08:10 PM
k2epm So... I am planning on mounting my antenna mount under the hood on the left side fender support and with the battery on the right side of my 2013 JK I am wondering if you have any tips for running the power cables and coax through the firewall.
08-14-2013 10:00 AM
sparky Very good, that's the best way to do it. When you can do 85% on the practice tests you are ready.

Good luck.
08-13-2013 07:21 PM
krawdaddy Thanks Sparky! Diligently studying (not just learning the test questions!)
08-13-2013 09:49 AM
sparky
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Originally Posted by krawdaddy View Post
I got a Beofeng UV5RA today from Amazon.. $34. Now to finish studying so I can get my technician. Hopefully in a few weeks.

For those with vanities, how long did it take? I know what I want to get if it's available K5WGG. 5Whiskey is my call sign at work when talking to ATC and my initials are GG. Would that fit the criteria?
That is a 1 X 3 call sign, group C. They are available for Technician class license holders and K5WGG is unassigned.

Get your license, then go for it.
08-13-2013 03:42 AM
krawdaddy
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Originally Posted by wyotraveler View Post
It would as long as you don't plan on working CW much. For code a dit at the end gets dropped off quit a bit especially in contests. I know because I worked CW for years.
I have zero interest in CW. I just want a radio that can work where my phone and CB/FRS will fail me
08-12-2013 07:45 AM
wyotraveler Zed, I think the problem goes way back a long time. When I took my first test in 1954 it was not multiple choice. You had to draw circuits and be able to explain them. Every license required CW. By the time you got your license you could build a rig. The world has changed. Some of the old timers haven't. I kid these old timers. I ask them if their rig is home brew. Usually not. Just a rice box like everyone else has. Club in my area has all grumpie hams. I dropped my membership several years ago. When I joined I offered to bring some modern equuipment and computer to their field day. Nope, I couldn't do that. However, I have met some great amateurs on the air and while traveling. JMHO.
08-11-2013 11:17 PM
DesertRat78
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Originally Posted by DesertRat78 View Post

Why not start a sub forum in this one. I would join.
By the way my sign is KD7TAP.
08-11-2013 11:15 PM
DesertRat78
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Originally Posted by Zed View Post
I'm official! KC3AUV

Now I just have to finally, FINALLY decide on what radio to get, mobile or portable. So many choices, so many specs! I need to find a friendly HAM forum. The ones I've been on the folks are just RUDE. For a hobby that claims to want to draw in new users the online forum folks are terrible.

I need to find a Wrangler Forum equivalent for HAMS!
Why not start a sub forum in this one. I would join.
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