|Today 07:57 PM|
|Today 06:50 PM|
i personally think this willy's is a poor attempt from jeep.... when you think Willys you think OD green alot of milatary like decals. while yes i know they have the freedom edition for those wanting a something that semi resembles a military jeep, but in no way shape of form does this offering fit the name of Willys on it.
also with the few options on it. can any of you really justify it being worth more then paying for a Sport or Sport S? honestly ?
|Today 06:38 PM|
I think the Willy's package breaks down into three parts.
1. The package/options themselves...which in my opinion are fine. Pretty standard stuff for a special edition....wheels and stickers. The pre-selected options are nice, and those are things I would chose on a Wrangler. On disappointment is the interior. This is one of the few special editions ever made that does not have any distinguishing features in the interior....not even a grab handle like the Moab.
Jeep should fix that before production starts.
2. The name....which is a major disappointment. I think a lot of people were expecting something much more grand than the standard wheels and stickers for the Willy's edition. The lack of uniqueness hurts.....especially with the above mentioned interior. If this package had a different name, it would be fine as a special edition package.
3. The price....where I'm still a bit confused. But I'll say this. If the pricing works out to be a good deal, they will fly off the lots. If it works out to be more expensive than simply ordering a Sport or Sport S...yuck. I'm lost on the pricing because I don't know if it is starting as a Sport or Sport S. I'm guessing a base Sport....but I won't be able to judge the pricing until we know the price of the package for both the 2 door and 4 door...and what the price of the power package will be as well. $1200?
I "think" it is a pretty good deal, but I can't say for sure until the pricing is out.
|Today 04:47 PM|
Take Off Rubi wheels and tires: $650 after selling the stock 16's
Rubi Rails: $150
Warn Trail Bag: $200?
4cans of Plastidip: $30
Add that up and we're sitting at basically $2400...but not spending time and effort putting everything together. The stickers, decals, and whatever "Special Edition Prestige" the buyer thinks they get with a special edition is just icing on the cake. Most if the special editions over the years have cost just as much, but have rarely included more than Rubi tires and lots of stickers.
And again, considering the earlier "Black wheel & Rubi tire" package that cost $2200, this is a bargain coming from the factory.
|Yesterday 06:52 PM|
|BAMA-S||Yes that helps. Ill just take a close look at the offers none of them have dealer ad dons. Should be easy.|
|Yesterday 06:49 PM|
|Yesterday 06:27 PM|
|BAMA-S||Do all dealers use the same msrp? Trying to compare different offers and trying to make sure everything is apples to apples.|
|Yesterday 09:54 AM|
|Yesterday 08:12 AM|
I (well my wife, I didn't really care) wanted a JKU in Hydro...after we found out there was a Hydro. We had already purchased a '14 JKU Sahara, and since it would likely never go off road in our lifetime the steps and extra "stuff" was just kinda nice....than we saw a picture of the new Jeeps in Hydro and my wife was very disappointed and honestly so was I......So when I was involved in a traffic accident that I was fairly sure would total the '14 JKU I called the salesman from the ER and asked ya got any of the Blue Jeeps yet? Usual conversation but yeah he would/ could get us one.
Come and see him. We did, and it turned out it would be "dealer locate" and the only ones close were Polars, wife had also decided she wanted a hard top so that pointed more to the Polar as well since the Freedom Edition generally are STs. Yes it was pretty well "Loaded". Did I really WANT all the extra stuff, (leather, heated seats, remote start, yada, yada, yada. I think the salesman said there were only 3 options left of the POLAR
one of them being dual top, trailer tow and gears...not sure. All I knew is my wife would have the Jeep she wanted and at our age the vehicles we have will PROBABLY last us the rest of our lives.
So my whole point to this "rant"? You mentioned in the second paragraph until the market DEMANDS stripped down Jeeps, we would continue to see the SE loaded Saharas etc. because people buy them. I agree but the other thing is which Jeep do they make the most money on the sale? I know you already know the answer, but the point I am trying to make is it won't happen. The person that wants the stripped Jeep will order it and wait. Most of us, not all, don't mind the little extras. And even though my wife kept saying she didn't want and wouldn't use all the extra stuff, with her daughters help she has figured out how to load her entire music library to the Jeep (it has 40G memory) some picture to use, on the NAV screen and linked her flip phone so that she is not digging in her pocket for her cell and drivin'. She also admitted she likes the heated seats, like the TJ has. (long story) Bottom line she is so happy with all the extra's on her Polar IDK that she would ever be satisfied with anything else.
And people likes us that know we will probably never take that Jeep, "OFF-ROAD" are the majority of the ones that are buying the Jeeps. I have an off road toy..my TJ....but most (not all) don't go in and buy a $30-$40K vehicle to take it off road, and they expect it to have everything that you CAN find on a Dodge Dart at a minimum, if not the option for more.
And Chrysler/ Fiat/ whoever is going to make more of those, because the profit margin is higher, more accessories more profit......in '94 I bought a new YJ from the same dealer..and it was stripped not even a radio..and it was the only one on the lot like that and they said than that most people don't buy them that way.
|Yesterday 01:16 AM|
while the willy's is supposed to be the next new package. it definitely doesn't appeal to all neither does a aftermarket filled jeep...
You consider a sport with a blacked out grill and some black rubicon wheels a "deal" ??? your greatly mistaken to think these things will be flying off the lots. when less then a can of plasti dip and some rubicon take offs would in all reality suffice for the same appearance....
|Yesterday 12:12 AM|
$2400 for the Willys package. I'm not sure why people feel entitled to a Rubicon for that kind of money. The Moab wheel and Rubi tire package that was available for 5 or 6 days cost $2200. Jeep isn't in the business of fulfilling perceived entitlements for people who want handouts on a $30k vehicle.
None of the special editions are built for everybody, and MOST of them have amounted to little more than stickers and embroidery. Compared to piecemeal option ordering and scrounging on Craigslist for takeoff Rubi parts, the Willys Wheeler is a bargain.
I would have LOVED to see a Jeep with a bedlined tub, 1/2 doors, dual locked Dana44's, flat fenders and 35's....but until the market demands stripped down Jeeps and people start buying them, Jeep has little incentive to build them. Dealerships want loaded Sahara's, Rubicons, Special Editions, and a few Sport S's on the lot because that's what people buy.
I'm not trying to start an argument, just asking that some reality be considered.
|12-03-2013 08:46 PM|
|12-03-2013 05:43 PM|
Jeep proudly introduced the Wrangler Willys Wheeler at the 2013 LA Auto Show. Willys Wheeler will allow customers to connect with the original Jeep vehicle’s rugged and purely functional capability.
Willys Wheeler is available on both 2-door and 4-door Sport models, starting at $25,795. Dealer ordering opens December 4th and vehicles will arrive in early next year in Jeep showrooms.
Jeep 4x4 Components:
•Command Trac®-Transfer Case with 2.72:1 Ratio
•Next Generation Dana 30 Front Axle/HD Dana 44 Rear Axle
•3.73 Axle Ratio with Trac-Lok® Limited Slip Differential
•BFG KM Mud Terrain Tires – LT255/75R17
•High Gloss Black 17” Rubicon” Aluminum Wheels
•Rubicon Rock Rails & Performance Suspension
•New Jeep Trail Rated Kit
Jeep Fact # 181
2014 Jeep Wrangler Willys Wheeler Coming Soon!
•Black Distressed WILLYS decal & 4WHEEL Drive decal
•Sunrider ®Soft Top with Standard Deep Tint
•Rugged Black Spackle Fender Flares with Gloss Black Bumper Appliques
•High Gloss Black Grille
•Available Black Fuel Filler Door & Tail Lamp Guards
•Available ½ DOOR Models on all Trims
|12-03-2013 02:44 PM|
|12-03-2013 12:00 PM|
|12-03-2013 11:58 AM|
|NYPDBLUE||Any word on when the willys wheeler will be available?|
|12-03-2013 11:54 AM|
|12-03-2013 08:23 AM|
Did the dealer print out a copy of the POC? Usually they do, for you to confirm your options, and many times, ask you to sign it. If you don't, I would drop by your dealer and ask for a copy.
I ordered my X on a Saturday, and didn't get the VON until Tuesday morning. I have found that having just the VON isn't of much help. You really need the VIN (or the last 8 of the VIN) to do any on-line tracking yourself.
|12-03-2013 07:21 AM|
|12-03-2013 07:06 AM|
Assuming the dealer has your email address, and entered it with the order, you'll get an email from Jeep when production is scheduled. This will give you your VIN, which you can use on the VOTS site and JeepStatus.com. You can also call 877-IAMJEEP.
I plan on having it delivered by mid February.
|12-03-2013 04:56 AM|
|12-01-2013 08:06 PM|
|12-01-2013 07:40 PM|
|12-01-2013 05:41 PM|
|The_Chief||The Willys Edition is highly disappointing... Truly.|
|12-01-2013 02:03 PM|
I wanted the (S) option and by the time you build a Willy out the Freedom actually is about the same price with more features! (Assuming you are going to upgrade wheels/tires and maybe shocks)
Now, if you just want a "basic" wrangler and won't be upgrading tires, etc. then its an ok price!
|12-01-2013 01:53 PM|
The options on the Willy's are not bad at all...I just wish it had a different name. The 3.73's, LSD, and connectivity package are all "must get" options in my book anyway (especially 3.73's on a 4 door)....so the good part is that you know they are already included. And it is nice that you can get LSD on a base 2 door if you order a Willy's.
I'm still a bit curious on the final pricing. If it works out to be a bargain compared to ordering a Sport with this options, I think it will be a steal. If it works out to being several thousand dollars over the cost of a Sport with those options, I'd pass unless you really want it and will leave it "as-is".
That (pricing) will be an important factor if you are planning on adding a lift and bigger wheels because you would be dumping the Rubi wheels and shocks anyway.
|12-01-2013 01:34 PM|
Wish it had: rear locker, 15" or 16" black wheels (not just painted Rubi wheels), 33s, option for front locker, small factory lift. Oh, and I wish that grille was flat black instead of gloss. Maybe a little wet/dry sandpaper and some clear coat...
Happy it doesn't have a big decal on the hood a la Freedom, nor painted flares, nor 18" wheels. No offense if those are your thing - they're just not mine.
|12-01-2013 03:19 AM|
Your right, I apologize for my remark. After doing some additonal research as you suggested, I agree.
I like the bare bones basics of the Willy. It would allow me to put the mods on I want. And not have to pay for the factory installed one I don't want.
The Sahara is a great looking rig. So much so I personally would have a hard time taking it off road.
The Willy on the other hand, because of its initial cost wouldnt concern me as much. The off road attitude for brush scratches, boulder scrapes, and mud seem more towards the rigs persona than being a show Jeep if you will.....
|12-01-2013 02:17 AM|
Honestly, if the Willy's package had a different name, it would have went over a lot better. The package itself is just fine (actually quite nice), it simply isn't what many expected given the name.
BTW, I hope I'm reading your post wrong.....if not, you should do a bit more research before you start dissing models. Outside of some 2007's, every JK made comes with a Dana 44 in the rear. And outside of Rubicons (lockers) and BASE 2 door Sports, every JK has limited slip as a $295 option. Also, every JK has the connectivity package available as an option (if not already standard) as well.
Mechanically, there is NO difference between a Willy's (Sport)...and my lip-sticked, pig like Sahara that I ordered with 3.73's, limited slip, and connectivity. It would be just wheels, rock rails vs side steps, and slightly different shocks.
|12-01-2013 01:53 AM|
While some will argue it's just a sticker package it is not. It made a few options available on a base Sport that weren't. Not sure if you are talking 2DR or 4DR, if 2DR stick with the base package, unless you have to have Power Windows, it'll save you even though you have to add air (Assuming you want A/C).
You are right, it's a good basis, no sourcing Rubi takeoff, it should have been called the Rubi Take Off package, as it's mostly stuff Rubicon guys take off.
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