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07-13-2014 08:07 AM
Mech_E
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Originally Posted by Extreme Justice View Post
sbpunk, thanks for a great explanation. How did you run your 2 hoses to the pump. I placed mine behind but there touching the silver cooler line. Im worried they'll get to hot. (Just above the pump in my pics). Also did you use those bumper backplates (odd shape metal washer for 8 bumper bolts?
I have the same question - how do you orientate theses two hoses? I put the hoses on the front side (opposite side of the aluminum tube as shown in your picture). I see you finished the install, and I am curious how you solved this problem. I am worried about the rubber tube rubbing against the aluminum tube.

Next question, does the aluminum tube get hot?

Lastly, are there issues if the aluminum tube rubs the rubber hose?

Thanks...
04-01-2014 10:52 AM
4-LOW
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Originally Posted by Extreme Justice View Post
Does anyone know if its still possible to remove the front grill with the ZEON S10/Maximus-3 setup without any issues. Or is it to close?
I had to shorten the center post on the grill and remove the next two "clips" (one on each side of the center post) to get my grill on and off easily. The grill is still very well secured and does not vibrate, move or look any different after removing those "clips". I am really happy with the 10s and the Maximus-3 set up.
09-06-2013 07:57 AM
SFNMutt
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Originally Posted by rgarrison3 View Post
If no company makes a winch plate for it then why do I have a winch plate on my JKUR10A and why is Maximus-3 (maximus-3) selling one?
that looks awesome.
08-25-2013 08:55 PM
TannicBeast Has anybody tried fitting a Zeon 10S on the stock 10A bumper using the OEM winch plate rather than the Maximus? You would have to center the fairlead hole (like on the Maximus) and drill new centered mounting holes for the winch (which the Maximus already has). But I am wondering if the Zeon will actually fit within the "box" created by the OEM winch plate.
08-23-2013 11:34 PM
Extreme Justice Interested in the 1.5" Performance Levelling kit as it provides new springs instead of "pucks". Like you happy to stick with stock tires or may go with 33's when it's time to change out
08-23-2013 10:10 PM
TizzaRubi
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Originally Posted by Extreme Justice View Post
Anyone else's front end sag a bit after their winch install? Thoughts for fixing? Was thinking of putting on the Teraflex performance lift.
I already had some rake, seems a little more now. I really did not want much of a lift. (although I would like some 35's). Rather use offset and flat fenders to make that happen. With that said I have always been a Rancho fan, and their 2" sport system with the RS9000 shocks looks appealing.
What do you like about the Teraflex you are looking at?
08-23-2013 09:30 PM
Extreme Justice Anyone else's front end sag a bit after their winch install? Thoughts for fixing? Was thinking of putting on the Teraflex performance lift.
08-19-2013 05:57 PM
Extreme Justice All I can say is what a pain in the A$$, but end results are well worth it!!
08-19-2013 01:52 PM
sbpunk
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Originally Posted by Extreme Justice View Post
Is this the correct orientation of the pump, or do I have to turn it around 180 degrees?
Sorry You probably have it figured out already. You have to unplug the hose and re route it but all the plugs go toward the radiator. Looks like you have it right.
08-19-2013 12:39 PM
gaylon
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Originally Posted by sbpunk View Post
Lol sorry I was about dead asleep. Plus a little bit of PTSD from that winch install since I had to redo it a few times.
no worries. I just wanted to be sure I understood what you meant to say
08-19-2013 10:49 AM
Extreme Justice Is this the correct orientation of the pump, or do I have to turn it around 180 degrees?
08-19-2013 01:24 AM
Extreme Justice
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Originally Posted by sbpunk View Post

For the ZEON winches you'll have to cut the old pump horseshoe bracket closest to the front and remove the sway bar skid plate. Tighten the FRONT bolts of the winch plate to the bumper. After that insert and tight the SIDE/REAR bolts. Then remove the front bolts you just tightened. It sounds stupid but it will ensure everything is sitting flush. Leaving the front bumper on the floor feed the cable thru the fairlead and up to the drum. You're not going to spool the cable but you're going to install it on the drum.

Please let me know if this doesnt make sense its important.

Once you have that done tighten the winch onto the winch plate. Your bumper should still be on the ground with the cable/rope going thru it. At this point a friend would be helpful. You need to raise the winch & winch plate even to feed the 8 front bolts thru the bumper and winch plate. Its a pain even with 2 people. Once thats done use an elbow extension, deep socket and long handled ratchet if you have one to tighten the 8 nuts onto the bumper bolts. This is a pain in the ass. I'm talking PAAAAIN in the ass. Once thats done spool up the cable/rope and you're done.

Things you wont need anymore- 4 spacers, top metal cover/bolts, plastic sway bar cover.

Anyone have questions please feel free to post them up. Remember this is for the ZEON winch. Since its so wide its a pain to install.
sbpunk, thanks for a great explanation. How did you run your 2 hoses to the pump. I placed mine behind but there touching the silver cooler line. Im worried they'll get to hot. (Just above the pump in my pics). Also did you use those bumper backplates (odd shape metal washer for 8 bumper bolts?
08-18-2013 11:11 PM
sbpunk
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Originally Posted by gaylon View Post
That's a kind of a double negative Do you mean that you DON'T need to drill access holes if you DO tighten the winch down before you put the bumper back on?
Lol sorry I was about dead asleep. Plus a little bit of PTSD from that winch install since I had to redo it a few times.
08-18-2013 11:07 PM
sbpunk Hey now we dont need the grammer police. You don't need to drill holes no matter what. Tighten down the winch before the bumper. If you don't then you can still get the bolts with an open ended stubby wrench. You can drill holes if you want. Does it make it easier? Yes I'm sure it would but I don't like cutting anymore than I have to
08-18-2013 09:15 PM
gaylon
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Originally Posted by sbpunk View Post
You don't have to drill access holes unless you don't tighten down the winch before you put the bumper back on. Even then its just a pain. Use a stubby wrench and turn them old school style until tight. There's enough room.
That's a kind of a double negative Do you mean that you DON'T need to drill access holes if you DO tighten the winch down before you put the bumper back on?
08-18-2013 07:50 PM
Semperfi303 I just finished installing the Maximus-3 winch plate and an older WARN M8000 winch. I did not need to relocate the vacuum pump for my winch. I was able to tighten the inner lower bumper bolts with a combination of an open end wrench and deep socket with extensions. Here are some pics:

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08-18-2013 07:07 PM
sbpunk
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Originally Posted by Extreme Justice View Post
This is an email I received from Joe from Maximus concerning the Zeon Winch.

Basically the problem is once you bolt the winch to the winch plate it takes up all the space on the sides to be able to access the lower inner bumper bolts/nuts. So the idea is if you can leave the winch just sitting freely on the plate (not bolted down) and deal with the bumper bolts/nuts first and then come back to bolt the winch down to the plate. or may be bolt the bumper down and try drop in and bolt down the winch after.

The problem with this idea is that the front winch mounting points are right underneath the lip of the bumper - as shown in Image 1. There is not enough gap/space between the plate and the bumper lip to be able to reach in and put in the bolts and washers. Back bolts are no problem because they are accessible with an open wrench/spanner.

The only way to do this is to use a hole saw to drill out 1.25" (1-1/4") access holes in the bumper lip right where the front mounting points are - as shown in Images 2,3,4,5.

Hint: with the winch plate in place put the bumper back on just with one nut on each side and using a silver Sharpie marker (or similar) mark your pilot holes from top through the mounting points on the plate. Make sure you mark through the center mount points.
Alternatively mark the center line of the bumper and mark your pilot holes 73 MM (2-7/8") from the bumper face (front rounded edge) - symmetric distance between the holes is 10" (254 MM).

Once you have access holes now you can load your bolts and washers on a shallow socket head and tie down your winch. You can reach the back ones with your hand and an open wrench. Make sure you put some anti-rust paint on the holes you drilled.

I'm not sure but I think you can also leave your winch down untill you are done bolting the bumper and then carefully drop it in from the top. You will have to try it if that is possible at all.

If you don't want to drill access holes then there is no easy way. You have to just use a flexible/universal/wobble socket extensions and be ready for bloody knuckles.

I hope this helps.

Joe
You don't have to drill access holes unless you don't tighten down the winch before you put the bumper back on. Even then its just a pain. Use a stubby wrench and turn them old school style until tight. There's enough room.
08-18-2013 07:05 PM
sbpunk
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Originally Posted by Extreme Justice View Post
Oh oh, ok any pointers?
For the ZEON winches you'll have to cut the old pump horseshoe bracket closest to the front and remove the sway bar skid plate. Tighten the FRONT bolts of the winch plate to the bumper. After that insert and tight the SIDE/REAR bolts. Then remove the front bolts you just tightened. It sounds stupid but it will ensure everything is sitting flush. Leaving the front bumper on the floor feed the cable thru the fairlead and up to the drum. You're not going to spool the cable but you're going to install it on the drum.

Please let me know if this doesnt make sense its important.

Once you have that done tighten the winch onto the winch plate. Your bumper should still be on the ground with the cable/rope going thru it. At this point a friend would be helpful. You need to raise the winch & winch plate even to feed the 8 front bolts thru the bumper and winch plate. Its a pain even with 2 people. Once thats done use an elbow extension, deep socket and long handled ratchet if you have one to tighten the 8 nuts onto the bumper bolts. This is a pain in the ass. I'm talking PAAAAIN in the ass. Once thats done spool up the cable/rope and you're done.

Things you wont need anymore- 4 spacers, top metal cover/bolts, plastic sway bar cover.

Anyone have questions please feel free to post them up. Remember this is for the ZEON winch. Since its so wide its a pain to install.
08-18-2013 09:15 AM
gaylon Has anyone used the Maximus-3 winch? Any field experience to relay?
08-18-2013 08:53 AM
Extreme Justice This is an email I received from Joe from Maximus concerning the Zeon Winch.

Basically the problem is once you bolt the winch to the winch plate it takes up all the space on the sides to be able to access the lower inner bumper bolts/nuts. So the idea is if you can leave the winch just sitting freely on the plate (not bolted down) and deal with the bumper bolts/nuts first and then come back to bolt the winch down to the plate. or may be bolt the bumper down and try drop in and bolt down the winch after.

The problem with this idea is that the front winch mounting points are right underneath the lip of the bumper - as shown in Image 1. There is not enough gap/space between the plate and the bumper lip to be able to reach in and put in the bolts and washers. Back bolts are no problem because they are accessible with an open wrench/spanner.

The only way to do this is to use a hole saw to drill out 1.25" (1-1/4") access holes in the bumper lip right where the front mounting points are - as shown in Images 2,3,4,5.

Hint: with the winch plate in place put the bumper back on just with one nut on each side and using a silver Sharpie marker (or similar) mark your pilot holes from top through the mounting points on the plate. Make sure you mark through the center mount points.
Alternatively mark the center line of the bumper and mark your pilot holes 73 MM (2-7/8") from the bumper face (front rounded edge) - symmetric distance between the holes is 10" (254 MM).

Once you have access holes now you can load your bolts and washers on a shallow socket head and tie down your winch. You can reach the back ones with your hand and an open wrench. Make sure you put some anti-rust paint on the holes you drilled.

I'm not sure but I think you can also leave your winch down untill you are done bolting the bumper and then carefully drop it in from the top. You will have to try it if that is possible at all.

If you don't want to drill access holes then there is no easy way. You have to just use a flexible/universal/wobble socket extensions and be ready for bloody knuckles.

I hope this helps.

Joe
08-18-2013 08:43 AM
Extreme Justice
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Originally Posted by sbpunk View Post
If anyone is still interested the ZEON 10k is a pain in the ass to install with this bumper.
Oh oh, ok any pointers?
08-18-2013 12:24 AM
sbpunk If anyone is still interested the ZEON 10k is a pain in the ass to install with this bumper.
08-17-2013 09:19 PM
Extreme Justice Does anyone know if its still possible to remove the front grill with the ZEON S10/Maximus-3 setup without any issues. Or is it to close?
07-19-2013 05:41 PM
scoutermike Joe installed the complete Maximus-3 kit yesterday and I am happy with it so far. Won't give it a real workout till I go wheeling next month.

35 MT/R's sitting in my garage right now waiting for my AEV beadlocks and 3 1/2" AEV lift.
07-16-2013 11:56 AM
Caveman1965
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Originally Posted by insylem View Post
Ive seen lots of people mention about the fairlead being not centered on the 10A Bumpers. But I looked at mine, and a friend of mine looked at it too, and neither of us could see the off center of the front bumper. That is we were looking where that plate comes out to make way for the winch.

What part exactly is off center?
Take a look at the pictures that I posted earlier in this thread (page 1 towards the bottom). You can see where we trimmed the fairlead opening and you can clearly see that the opening is offset. The Maximus-3 package addresses this problem for a centered winch like a Zeon.
07-16-2013 11:54 AM
Caveman1965 I spoke with Joe over at Maximus-3 yesterday morning. He tells me that he's designing a trim piece to go behind the winch that covers up the vacuum pump. No word on cost yet, but he tells me it will be minimal. I mentioned that I didn't want to cut the original trim piece that was removed to make room for the winch. He took it upon himself to design a part to fit there. His design (the entire assembly) is extremly well thought out and very polished. I can't wait to see what he comes up with.
07-16-2013 11:54 AM
insylem
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Originally Posted by peluns View Post
I'm sure it works fine the fairlead will not be centered in the space though...I preferred the fairlead centered and went with Maximus and very pleased with end result...

Ive seen lots of people mention about the fairlead being not centered on the 10A Bumpers. But I looked at mine, and a friend of mine looked at it too, and neither of us could see the off center of the front bumper. That is we were looking where that plate comes out to make way for the winch.

What part exactly is off center?
07-16-2013 09:35 AM
peluns I'm sure it works fine the fairlead will not be centered in the space though...I preferred the fairlead centered and went with Maximus and very pleased with end result...
07-15-2013 01:08 AM
insylem Is this a good one to go with for a winch mount? Can it hold any winch I want? A Guy at work reccomends I get a Smitty built one.

Rusty's Winch Mount - JK Rubicon 10th Anniversary Steel Jeep Bumper
06-27-2013 05:07 PM
scoutermike I've contacted Joe at Maximus and they will be installing all on my new Anvil 10th as soon as the parts come in.

Mike
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