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06-16-2013 09:21 AM
530ktm Great day in the mountains and thanks to all who supplied the burgers and dogs, what a treat that was out on the trails. We ran out of time and did not locate the Bean Flats black diamond trail after we left the group but we did realize there are a whole bunch of trails that need to be explored around that area. Joe, looking forward to a trip to the Bean Flats sometime in the near future. Here are a couple of pictures I got including the nasty tire situation. It was nice meeting all of you guys and look forward to doing this again.
06-16-2013 09:02 AM
werompx3 Thx joe again and happy fathers day
06-16-2013 01:15 AM
sean.royalty Joe Thank you for the invite. We had a great time.
06-15-2013 11:49 PM
JoeBot13 First off, I want to thank everyone who made it out and double thanks to CVMA for grilling up some awesome burgers and hotdogs on the trial.

Well... we didn't make it to Bean Flat today. I may run that the Friday of the Turdfest in July. However, we did run Pipes Canyon (1N01) for the first time and I must say that it is definitely a must run trail in Big Bear. I couldn't find a whole lot on these trails before I ran them, so here is my breakdown for those who are interested.

Pipes Canyon - 1N01

The trail is a 20 mile round trip, one way down and back trail that starts you off in the tall pines off of Highway 38. The trail starts off easy and leads you through the pines to the base of Onyx Peak. We planned on running up to the top, but the gates were locked so we just pressed on down 1N01.

After the turn off to Onyx Peak, 1N01 becomes Blue Square rated as it runs you along a nearly 9000 foot high ridgeline offering some of the most awesome views of Johnson Valley I have ever seen. From here you begin a 3000 foot descent along some very rocky, narrow, and tippy switchbacks. This section reminds me of a mild Heartbreak Ridge in difficulty and is doable for stock rigs, but you have to pay attention to you line and armor is recommended. These switchbacks are by far the funnest section of the trail, and are even better going back up.

At the bottom of the canyon the trail leads into a desert wash that has a few cool things to note. There is an abandoned cabin that I read was used by miners from the Onyx Mine and a campground that is maintained by 4x4 Freelanders adopt-a-trail program. The campground has pit toilets and room for about a dozen rigs or so. The trail dead-ends at a massive gate separating the national forest from a wildlife preserve, at one point in time the trail lead all the way to Pioneertown. We ran into some of the 4x4 Freelanders conducting trail cleanup and they explained how this environmentalist group came in and bought up all the land and gated it off. They also said that this same environmentalist group is trying to have all of 1N01 shut down and even placed "road closed" signs several miles up the trail.

This was a fun trail and definitely worth running. Plan for a day trip though, it took us 6 hours from start to finish.









I have more pictures of the trail at:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=d23352a25d
06-15-2013 10:00 PM
Bob. Great run today, had a lot of fun for my fist trip out with our new toy. We look forward to doing it again soon!
06-15-2013 10:04 AM
werompx3 Will do joe were on our way now to 247
06-15-2013 09:20 AM
JoeBot13 We're heading out the door soon ... see y'all at 247 at 0900 ... give me a call if something comes up ... Dave we'll see you at 1N01!!
06-15-2013 08:43 AM
werompx3 And we're off》》》》》》》》》》
06-14-2013 11:02 PM
werompx3 The family is pumped up for tomorrow were gunna have a blast
06-14-2013 11:01 PM
530ktm We will find our way and meet up with you guys. I am going to swing through the campground first to have a look for some future trips and then we will keep on going up to the staging area. I am looking forward to some other trails and scenery other than John Bull, Holcomb, Dishpan and the others. It is not always the most technical difficult trails that are fun and entertaining.
06-14-2013 09:07 PM
JoeBot13 I posted GPS coordinates at the bottom of the first post.
06-14-2013 08:24 PM
JoeBot13
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Originally Posted by 530ktm View Post
How much farther and which direction is this from Heart Bar Campground? I do not seem to find 1N01 on my map. I see 1N02 but that is all.

After looking further in more detail I think I see it is a bit farther toward the lake on the east side of the road.
Yup you have the right area! It is 6 miles up HWY 38 from Heart Bar, closer to the lake on the east side of the road. Looks like right after mile marker 39.20 there is a large turnout, this is the start of 1N01 and where we will stage.
06-14-2013 07:58 PM
530ktm
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Originally Posted by JoeBot13 View Post
Couple small changes, I posted all the new details in the first post:

>Staging area changed to 1N01 trailhead.

>We are going to run Pipe's Canyon first and then check out Bean Flat afterwards.

>There will be a propane grill out there with hamburgers/hotdogs. Bring stuff to contribute!

>I'll post maps and coordinates for the trails this evening.
How much farther and which direction is this from Heart Bar Campground? I do not seem to find 1N01 on my map. I see 1N02 but that is all.

After looking further in more detail I think I see it is a bit farther toward the lake on the east side of the road.
06-14-2013 02:21 PM
JoeBot13 Couple small changes, I posted all the new details in the first post:

>Staging area changed to 1N01 trailhead.

>We are going to run Pipe's Canyon first and then check out Bean Flat afterwards.

>There will be a propane grill out there with hamburgers/hotdogs. Bring stuff to contribute!

>I'll post maps and coordinates for the trails this evening.
06-13-2013 11:13 PM
JoeBot13
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Originally Posted by 530ktm View Post
Sounds good. My son and I will be at the campground around 10:00 as you mentioned. If anything has changed let me know. See you then.
Awesome! It should take 30-40 minutes to get from Cafe 247 to Heart Bar so we may not be there exactly at 10 ... check the first post for my contact info in case it seems we are running late

Also ... everyone pack lunch cuz there should be a few good places to stop after we run the trail ... there are a few hiking trail heads that should have ample parking space as well as some yellow post camping spots in the area ...

Speaking of hiking trails ... there is a large aspen grove in the area that is a short hike off the road if any one is interested in seeing that
06-13-2013 10:41 PM
Bob. See you on Sat!
06-13-2013 10:15 PM
530ktm Sounds good. My son and I will be at the campground around 10:00 as you mentioned. If anything has changed let me know. See you then.
06-13-2013 07:34 PM
JoeBot13 We'll be around 8,000 feet on Saturday so the temps are going to be around mid-70s to low-80s .... nice break from the triple digits we've been seeing out here!
06-12-2013 09:28 PM
sean.royalty See you all Saturday
06-12-2013 09:06 PM
JoeBot13 Awesome! Yup we would still meet at the campground ... we will have to pass right by it to get to the trail so I figure that would be a good place to meet and air down ... although we will probably want to make the meet time around 1000 since I will be meeting folks in Lucerne Valley at 0900. This trail is about the same distance as Gold Mountain so we won't need a whole lot of time to run it.
06-12-2013 08:08 PM
530ktm I may be interested in this as I would like to check out the campground and some other trails that I am unfamiliar with. I would be coming up the front side so I assume we would still meet at the campground you spoke of. I will confirm in the next day or so if I can make this but it sounds like a good day.
06-12-2013 06:27 PM
JoeBot13 We have to go through Lucerne Valley anyways ... I can just meet you at Cafe 247 at 0900 and we can go up from there!
06-12-2013 03:48 PM
sean.royalty We got 4 rigs that will be up in BB Saturday. We are meeting at 0900 cafe 247 and heading up from there. Thinking about joining your trail if we make it there before you leave.
06-10-2013 10:35 PM
JoeBot13 Need some teaser shots huh ... from what I gather there are a few rocky spots like this on Bean Flat ... Nothing hardcore but I'll be going up this and not down like in the pic

06-09-2013 06:42 PM
JoeBot13
Bean Flat/Pipe's Canyon - June 15th

We didn't make it out to Bean Flat this time, however we did run Pipe's Canyon. I couldn't find a whole lot on this trail before I ran it, so here is a write up from Saturday's run:

Trail Write Up

Pipes Canyon - 1N01

The trail is a 20 mile round trip, one way down and back trail that starts you off in the tall pines off of Highway 38. The trail starts off easy and leads you through the pines to the base of Onyx Peak. We planned on running up to the top, but the gates were locked so we just pressed on down 1N01.

After the turn off to Onyx Peak, 1N01 becomes Blue Square rated as it runs you along a nearly 9000 foot high ridgeline offering some of the most awesome views of Johnson Valley I have ever seen. From here you begin a 3000 foot descent along some very rocky, narrow, and tippy switchbacks. This section reminds me of Heartbreak Ridge in difficulty and is doable for stock rigs, but will have to pay attention to your line and armor is recommended. These switchbacks are by far the funnest section of the trail, and are even better going back up. It would even be fun for built rigs.

At the bottom of the canyon the trail leads into a desert wash that has a few cool things to note. There is an abandoned cabin that I read was used by miners from the Onyx Mine and a campground that is maintained by 4x4 Freelanders adopt-a-trail program. The campground has pit toilets and room for about ten rigs or so. The trail dead-ends at a massive gate separating the national forest from a wildlife preserve, at one point in time the trail lead all the way to Pioneertown. We ran into some of the 4x4 Freelanders conducting trail cleanup and they explained how this environmentalist group came in and bought up all the land and gated it off. They also said that this same environmentalist group is trying to have all of 1N01 shut down and even placed "road closed" signs several miles up the trail.

This was a fun trail and definitely worth running. Plan for a day trip, it took us 6 hours from start to finish. Although, we did stop for a BBQ at the bottom and had a tire blowout, which took up some of that time.

Trail Coordinates

HWY38/1N01 Turnoff > 34.192241,-116.718944
Onyx Peak Turnoff> 34.200764,-116.714272
Miners Cabin> 34.191451,-116.680627
Pipes Canyon Campground> 34.180989,-116.659064
Turn Around Gate> 34.178065,-116.652268

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