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08-26-2013 09:07 AM
Anaconda I went with the Harken Hoist and used the pool noodles for protection.

Happy with my choice. I didn't go power because I have the soft top for summer. I will not be using the hoist on a regular basis, just at the change of seasons.
08-17-2013 10:15 PM
firebrick
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Originally Posted by tony99 View Post
I just purchased the Lange Power Hoist-a-top and I must say I am disappointed.

The front arms/bars are connected to a T assembly and secured in place with four small screws, which don't fill me with confidence; it seems cheap and potentially weak. I suppose they're there simply to hold the arms in place and the weight of the hard top and gravity do the rest to secure them, but I feel this could've been designed better. If this is designed specifically for the JK Freedom Top, why not use bolts and nuts to mount it all the way through the bars in a specific location? The Freedom Top measurements don't vary.

Next, The sliding part that the mounting eye-bolt on the frame connects to would not fit over the center bar. I had to get a file to remove the sharp burrs on the edge and file down the inside to reduce the height of the screw-hole so it would fit over the bar. A little quality control would've been nice here.

Next, I opened the bungee cords to attach them and while they appear to be the same size, one of them doesn't stretch as far as the other and it's impossible to attach. I suppose I'll go purchase my own bungee cords to replace the one that is too short.

Lastly, I attached the hoist/frame to the Freedom Top just to see how it fits and it looks like the hooks are going to damage the edges they rest on. I'll have to purchase some pool noodles and attach them, like someone suggested above.

I haven't even mounted the winch or installed the eye bolts in the ceiling yet. I wonder what additional problems I'll run in to. I'm regretting paying $400 for this thing. I was expecting better design and quality.

Tony
I did not trust the front hook bars either. I went out and bought a 5 foot piece if 1" metal square stock and made a solid bar instead of two pieces. That's how it should be made.
08-17-2013 10:23 AM
st1264
Quote:
Originally Posted by tony99 View Post
I just purchased the Lange Power Hoist-a-top and I must say I am disappointed.

The front arms/bars are connected to a T assembly and secured in place with four small screws, which don't fill me with confidence; it seems cheap and potentially weak. I suppose they're there simply to hold the arms in place and the weight of the hard top and gravity do the rest to secure them, but I feel this could've been designed better. If this is designed specifically for the JK Freedom Top, why not use bolts and nuts to mount it all the way through the bars in a specific location? The Freedom Top measurements don't vary.

Next, The sliding part that the mounting eye-bolt on the frame connects to would not fit over the center bar. I had to get a file to remove the sharp burrs on the edge and file down the inside to reduce the height of the screw-hole so it would fit over the bar. A little quality control would've been nice here.

Next, I opened the bungee cords to attach them and while they appear to be the same size, one of them doesn't stretch as far as the other and it's impossible to attach. I suppose I'll go purchase my own bungee cords to replace the one that is too short.

Lastly, I attached the hoist/frame to the Freedom Top just to see how it fits and it looks like the hooks are going to damage the edges they rest on. I'll have to purchase some pool noodles and attach them, like someone suggested above.

I haven't even mounted the winch or installed the eye bolts in the ceiling yet. I wonder what additional problems I'll run in to. I'm regretting paying $400 for this thing. I was expecting better design and quality.

Tony
Thanks for the review. This is why I bought the Harken for $129 with free shipping Works great.
08-17-2013 09:14 AM
NW Rubicon A couple of things that made the Racor my choice:


I have a lot of shelving along my walls & I didn't have a good place to run the cable or rope to a cleat or winch. With the Racor, you just mount it to the ceiling and you're done.

The 4x4 platform that comes with it, allows for a lot of storage. I get use out of it, even when it's not holding my top.

$137- shipped from Amazon... Cordless drill works great to raise & lower it.
08-17-2013 03:32 AM
tony99 I just purchased the Lange Power Hoist-a-top and I must say I am disappointed.

The front arms/bars are connected to a T assembly and secured in place with four small screws, which don't fill me with confidence; it seems cheap and potentially weak. I suppose they're there simply to hold the arms in place and the weight of the hard top and gravity do the rest to secure them, but I feel this could've been designed better. If this is designed specifically for the JK Freedom Top, why not use bolts and nuts to mount it all the way through the bars in a specific location? The Freedom Top measurements don't vary.

Next, The sliding part that the mounting eye-bolt on the frame connects to would not fit over the center bar. I had to get a file to remove the sharp burrs on the edge and file down the inside to reduce the height of the screw-hole so it would fit over the bar. A little quality control would've been nice here.

Next, I opened the bungee cords to attach them and while they appear to be the same size, one of them doesn't stretch as far as the other and it's impossible to attach. I suppose I'll go purchase my own bungee cords to replace the one that is too short.

Lastly, I attached the hoist/frame to the Freedom Top just to see how it fits and it looks like the hooks are going to damage the edges they rest on. I'll have to purchase some pool noodles and attach them, like someone suggested above.

I haven't even mounted the winch or installed the eye bolts in the ceiling yet. I wonder what additional problems I'll run in to. I'm regretting paying $400 for this thing. I was expecting better design and quality.

Tony
07-19-2013 06:00 AM
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07-18-2013 10:03 PM
Mr Breeze I went with this one:
TOP/CAP EZ LIFT HOME

There are a couple youtube videos that show it better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW2pTlAvzlw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-K72vuaZ-g

Not cheap, but to your point - with the price we paid for the jeep and all the add-on's, I was fine with spending a few more bucks on a lift like this rather than rigging something up with ropes, pulleys and ratchet straps.

I've used it a couple times so far, and it works well. I also like that it is a pretty self-contained unit, so I can unmount and re-mount if/when I move.
07-18-2013 09:12 PM
st1264 I like my Harken. You need a hoist system as the JKU's hardtop is too bulky and heavy for 1 person. I like my Harken so far...
07-18-2013 09:02 PM
Jeepin Bowhunter I just ordered a Harken for my JKU. Looks like the best option for my gagage. I only have an 8 1/2 foot ceiling height. I had a YJ and used 4x4's suspended by chain and just lifted it up and set it on the 4x4's. It worked, but it was a pain alone.
07-18-2013 06:24 PM
Lbear I have the Racor platform hoist. You get a storage platform that can also lift your top- and its only $137. It's the one in the picture above by poster Roadijeff. Best of all you can hoist manually or powered with a 1/2 inch drill. With the drill it goes up and down quickly. It is easy to install and well built.

Racor PHL-1R Pro HeavyLift 4-by-4-Foot Cable-Lifted Storage Rack - Amazon.com
07-18-2013 06:08 PM
flyingbigf00t
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Originally Posted by Seginus View Post

Can you post a pic of that setup? With annotations? That may be what I need to do. thanks
Sorry it took me forever to get this for you. Basically I tied the free end of the hoist line to the carabiner, and hook the carabiner between the release flange and the loaded line. The two pictures below illustrate my setup.

I want to note it is very easy to accidentally release the cleat with this arraignment. You need to be careful.


Attachment 274529



Attachment 274532
06-23-2013 08:24 PM
Cdwright
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Originally Posted by firebrick View Post
Guys with the Lange hoist. Do you feel it is secure enough with just the two eye bolts or do you have something rigged up for when you have the top hanging?
Once you get it balanced, it is pretty good. I think some use straps as a backup/ safety net in case of failure.

No one has posted a failure yet. The winch is raising about a quarter of its capacity.
06-23-2013 02:39 PM
jdambm
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Originally Posted by firebrick View Post
Guys with the Lange hoist. Do you feel it is secure enough with just the two eye bolts or do you have something rigged up for when you have the top hanging?
In my pic posted above I just took two smaller eye bolts and ran the orange strap underneath the front to keep it steady and not swing. It is plenty sturdy
IMHO
06-23-2013 11:07 AM
firebrick Guys with the Lange hoist. Do you feel it is secure enough with just the two eye bolts or do you have something rigged up for when you have the top hanging?
06-20-2013 01:36 PM
flyingbigf00t
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Originally Posted by Seginus View Post
Can you post a pic of that setup? With annotations? That may be what I need to do. thanks
Sorry i have been wicked busy at work. I will take some pictures tonight and post them.
06-19-2013 03:21 PM
Lil Black JK
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Originally Posted by Cdwright View Post
How high is the ceiling?
16 feet.
06-19-2013 01:59 PM
Robwise I built my own lift. Seen a couple on u tube. I built a t bar with 3 hooks. Even bought a electric winch. Works great. Can have that baby off in minutes BY MYSELF. Lol Cost was about half of the harken
06-19-2013 12:33 PM
Cdwright
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Originally Posted by Lil Black JK View Post
I like my electric Lange hoist. I've got a high ceiling so it works well for me. I can have the top on or off in minutes. It takes longer to put on the freedom tops than the rear top. One hand on the top to steady it and one on the hoist control.
How high is the ceiling?
06-19-2013 12:25 PM
Lil Black JK
Lange

I like my electric Lange hoist. I've got a high ceiling so it works well for me. I can have the top on or off in minutes. It takes longer to put on the freedom tops than the rear top. One hand on the top to steady it and one on the hoist control.
06-19-2013 09:20 AM
dpostman
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Originally Posted by st1264 View Post
Do you have a pic of your setup using the Pool Noodles? Didn't know the straps would damage the rubber seals...
Here is a pic of mine with the pool noodles. I used the 200lb Harken Hoister for 12ft ceilings. My ceilings are just under 11ft, and I can bring the top down all the way to the floor. Also, I did not use the figure 8 knot as suggested in Harken manual. I used a Bowline knot. I also added the extra 2X4 because my rafters are setup left to right instead of front to back.

06-19-2013 08:58 AM
Blkfenderslookbetter
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Originally Posted by WesterM3 View Post
No, you balance it with a gallon jug of water.
Balancing the lift only keeps the top level, it doesn't stop the swivel
06-19-2013 08:33 AM
Seginus
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Originally Posted by flyingbigf00t View Post
I have the Harken Hoist. Works great, easy to install and it was a decent price.

My only complaint is that when you have partially unloaded the system (i.e. the back of the top is resting on the Jeep) it is very difficult to get the line to release from the cleat. My work around was to install a small carabiner in the cutout behind the cleat tongue. I tied the free end of the rope to this carabiner and can now fully release the tension in the system by pulling forward on the free line.
Can you post a pic of that setup? With annotations? That may be what I need to do. thanks
06-18-2013 07:26 PM
firebrick I didn't trust the front two piece section of my Lange so I went out and bought a single section of 1" square stock. Now it works good but still hard to trust only one securing point to ceiling.
06-18-2013 03:27 PM
WesterM3
balnce

Quote:
Originally Posted by utjdh04 View Post
Have any trouble with it spinning after you removed the top? If so, what did you do to address it?
No, you balance it with a gallon jug of water.
06-18-2013 02:24 PM
flyingbigf00t I have the Harken Hoist. Works great, easy to install and it was a decent price.

My only complaint is that when you have partially unloaded the system (i.e. the back of the top is resting on the Jeep) it is very difficult to get the line to release from the cleat. My work around was to install a small carabiner in the cutout behind the cleat tongue. I tied the free end of the rope to this carabiner and can now fully release the tension in the system by pulling forward on the free line.
06-18-2013 02:13 PM
utjdh04 Have any trouble with it spinning after you removed the top? If so, what did you do to address it?
06-18-2013 01:24 PM
WesterM3
Powered Lange

Absolutely love the powered Lange, zero regrets. So easy the wife or kids could do it without me if they needed to.
06-18-2013 08:39 AM
jdambm
Hope this helps
06-17-2013 12:12 PM
PRWhitby
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Originally Posted by st1264 View Post
Lange Originals Power Hoist-a-Top™ for 07-13 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited JK 4 Door with 3 Piece Freedom Top™ - Quadratec

Looking for a hardtop hoist for my 13' JKU. This one is powered and is $399. I'm just wondering if anyone has one or would recommend another one for a 4dr hardtop. I was originally thinking about doing the 'ratchet strap' cheap way but with the investment I've put into my Jeep, I won't mind investing a little in a good hoist.

Seems many are buying the Harken Hoister...

Harken Hoister 7803B - Harken Hoister Garage Storage 4-Point Lift System for Jeep® Hardtops & Recreational Equipment - Quadratec

Any thoughts? My garage is approx 10ft high.
I also bought the Lange, but not the powered one. Am only anticipating using it twice a year, so I figured I would go with the manual crank. No regrets so far.
06-17-2013 11:05 AM
Seginus I had to add an extra 2X4 due to the way my rafters aligned though. I left it hanging for two weeks while on vacation and it was still hanging there when I got back .

Only thing is that i pull the straps all the way up when not in use and there isnt enough weight on it to easily come back down. I have to pull on the extra cabling while pulling on the main sheet. Need to find something to hang on it while not in use.
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