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07-22-2013 07:14 AM
aelwero
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Originally Posted by JTPhoto JK View Post
Funny some of the comments. We have 3 Jeeps and no issues with any of them. I talked to a tech a few weeks ago that bought a Wrangler for his wife because the only time they see them in the shop is for routine maintenance.
That could easily be more about the people who buy jeeps than the jeeps themselves. Mine only go to the shop for diagnostics, and when I find out what the issue is, I take it back and fix it myself.

I'm a die hard "built not bought" sort of person, so the lack of "fit and finish is actually a plus for me.
07-22-2013 06:53 AM
5150Rubicon One...I absolutely LOVE my Jeep. My 13' JK is the first Jeep I've ever owned and I can say without hesitation that it is the most fun, cool looking vehicle I've ever had...and wouldn't trade it for anything.

Two...In my opinion (not that it matters) my 13' JK is a f*#king piece of sh*t in terms of the initial quality and what I got for my money...in terms of quality. There are tons of vehicle options, at MUCH lower price, that are MUCH better made.

Three...I absolutely LOVE my Jeep.

Four...So, I have been, and will continue to, keep it stock for a bit longer...drive the living hell out of it (off and on road)...let all the bullshit rear its head and let JEEP fix it all under warranty When satisfied that I've got a solid vehicle with no "manufacturer defects"...the mods begin Only trouble is, at 2,000 miles...I can't hardly wait any more to put my lift/bigger tires on!!!

I'll take the shit...along with the sheer amount of fun...anyday. On the other hand, I totally understand the OP's frustration. What JEEP (and most manufacturers, btw) is manufacturing...for the money...is just crap.
07-22-2013 03:14 AM
josea1952 Dunno, at 38k shit better be right. Maybe its just me but Jeeps arent worth their asking price with all the issues that you read about on the JK since their inception. I think if Ford released a Bronco, even slightly retro with a live axle front Jeeps gig would be up, I mean look at all the dummies buying FJ's. Seems like people suck up all the bs with jeeps when really we should be expecting more out of them.

I dont know about you guys but no one has figured out a way to make time so until then my time is worth more than having to deal with some dealership asshole that wants to charge me a premium to work on a WW2 tech vehicle, in reference to chassis, suspension, and driveline; canbus crap is another issue.

I like my Jeep, but I also didnt pay 40k for a stock one, had I paid that I'd be burning houses down.
07-22-2013 01:55 AM
1quick1
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Originally Posted by blingfast View Post
My buddy worked for DC supervising the line. They used to ride around on golf carts caulking windshields, fixing blot on's, etc out in the storage fields in Detroit before shipment to the dealer...
Not sure what plant your 'buddy' worked at but it was never in Detroit....

Bitch about your Wrangler all you want but don't spout BS.
07-20-2013 10:34 PM
blingfast My buddy worked for DC supervising the line. They used to ride around on golf carts caulking windshields, fixing blot on's, etc out in the storage fields in Detroit before shipment to the dealer...
07-20-2013 09:53 PM
1quick1 I always laugh at peoples interpretation of quality.

"oh my sisters, bestfriends brother had a XXX and it did this and that, they are pieces of shhit!"

Obviously these people have never taken a statistics class.
07-20-2013 09:38 PM
Brian75 I used to work at GM and had the same things. People thought I should have caught things. Told them the exact same things you said.
06-20-2013 11:45 AM
SRTie4k
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Originally Posted by david.w.johnson View Post
I hated that Chrysler bought Jeep. I wish it was an independent company. I always thought it could go the way of the Harley...an American iconic product for the American free spirit kind of thing.
Did you know that 98% of all Harley's are still on the road today?

The other 2% actually made it home!
06-20-2013 11:32 AM
jwilson2598
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Originally Posted by mike1158 View Post

even as a Harley man i can say. . . .if that happened, you'd feel it in your wallet.......
X2, this is the truth.
06-19-2013 10:07 PM
FXnut
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Originally Posted by Mark b View Post
You're really gonna be pissed after a couple of years. They get worse before they get better.

DO they get better?
06-19-2013 11:12 AM
2footin
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Originally Posted by JTE View Post
The Pentastar engines are manufactured in Trenton.
assembled in trenton from globally sourced parts...

i live in windsor ont ground zero for fucking minivans and yes i love my jeeps
06-19-2013 10:43 AM
mike1158
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Originally Posted by david.w.johnson View Post
I hated that Chrysler bought Jeep. I wish it was an independent company. I always thought it could go the way of the Harley...an American iconic product for the American free spirit kind of thing.
even as a Harley man i can say. . . .if that happened, you'd feel it in your wallet.......
06-19-2013 10:41 AM
mike1158
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Originally Posted by Aeschylus View Post
Other than passing laws for the State of New Jersey, I do not think Trenton has manufactured anything since the 1970s
You got that straight...Roebling Steel been gone a Looooooong time
06-19-2013 10:28 AM
Andy 1965
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Originally Posted by woansleftpeg View Post
I read this article today while I was sitting in the waiting room at the dentist, and I was intrigued to see the line "Wrangler product planners consider the Ford Mustang a direct competitor". I guess that makes a lot of sense.
I recently traded in my 2010 Mustang GT convertible for a new Wrangler Sport. You might be onto something there
06-19-2013 09:39 AM
genesbro At first I thought mine was all good but found that pass side hood hinge was bent slightly and I just used a block of wood with big hammer to fix it.
06-19-2013 08:06 AM
Mark b
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Originally Posted by zerinS4 View Post
If it makes you feel any better, my 10A Rubi was built on April Fool's day, which also happened to be a Monday. Double whammy. So far no issues, but that fact still kind of haunts me
AND, it's a '13. You're doooooomed!

To the original poster. You can probably fix a couple of the items yourself. You shouldn't have to but it's kinda the part of owning a Jeep.

The Steering wheel may just need a quick little turn of the Tie Rod Adjuster. I'm guessing JK's have those barrel adjusters like TJ's.

There are also a bunch of posts about fixing leaks and the rattling tubes/linkage.

You're really gonna be pissed after a couple of years. They get worse before they get better.
06-19-2013 07:02 AM
Espada
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Originally Posted by rijowysock View Post
this is why they have bumper to bumper warranty's on vehicles.

sounds like a loose drain tube, a bad seal, and your alignment could be off for many reasons... specifically something loose on steering if the car drives straight but wheel is off.
While you are right regarding the warranty, I absolutely hate having to waste time taking my Jeep (which I enjoy the hell out of, mind you) for work that should have been completed right the first time. My time is my most important resource and I do not like wasting because some shmuck can't build to print.

It's also a waste of Chysler's own money when they have to do a job, and the. Do it again because it wasn't do e right the first time.
06-19-2013 06:37 AM
david.w.johnson I hated that Chrysler bought Jeep. I wish it was an independent company. I always thought it could go the way of the Harley...an American iconic product for the American free spirit kind of thing.
06-19-2013 06:23 AM
TOK
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Originally Posted by Abnormal-JK View Post
Why?? Take it out in the mud and rocks, drive it, figure out what it needs for your style and bolt it on! Learn how to wrench on it, and what you can't do let the dealer handle.
Driving hunks of crap from 16 to my late 20's taught me everything I need to know so far. None of my vehicles has ever been back to a dealership for anything other than recalls.

Hunks of crap also taught me that mods done willingly are fun, unexpected repairs aren't.
06-19-2013 01:13 AM
JeepCourtney3700 Spending $$$$$ on a new vehicle and having it have problems not caused by the operator is a huge buzzkill. Keep in mind that that's what warranties and insurance policies are for. Most of the time the problems are fixable and if you didn't stiff the dealership during the buying process, you'll find them much obliged to help.
06-19-2013 01:01 AM
R51
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Originally Posted by live_slow View Post

If I want hand-crafted, cost-no-object vehicles, "zero-defect" I know where to go. I just can't pay the cost of entry.
And for me it would be here ICON
But I lack the $200k they get for one of these custom built babies.
06-19-2013 12:43 AM
JTPhoto JK Funny some of the comments. We have 3 Jeeps and no issues with any of them. I talked to a tech a few weeks ago that bought a Wrangler for his wife because the only time they see them in the shop is for routine maintenance.
06-19-2013 12:25 AM
Lowerumble Well, if you think a new vehicle needing a few tweaks is something that plagues only jeep then you are dead wrong. My last couple of Chevys were nearly 20k more than my jeep and I know the name of the chevy mechanics pretty well... Those visits ranged from having rear windows replaced to trannies and transfer cases. Go get an alignment, which you should always do with any new vehicle and have A. and B. addressed at your dealer...
06-18-2013 11:51 PM
RKracing
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Originally Posted by dreinecke View Post
Sad to hear this from the OP. My 2012 has ZERO leaks, head problems, or other issues at 14k. The 2013 at 3500 has ZERO leaks, or other issues. Love them both!
You are very lucky. We have had 5 Jeeps in 3 years, all leaked so-so to alot.
One of them they did buy back, Tranny problems, both 13's have water pump problems and so on and so on.... It is so sad that it is funny.
06-18-2013 11:46 PM
HouseofCards
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Originally Posted by TOK View Post

You think differently from me. I don't want to need my warranty for all that stuff. A warranty doesn't give Chrysler a pass for poor quality. They are the only one of the Big 3 still haunted by this.

My Jeep has been fine, and I love it, but I am more worried about it than any new vehicle I have ever purchased.
Only one left? My sister in law drives an '04 equinox that she cant keep on the road because it overheats, had the motor pulled twice and it still happens. I was shopping before i decided on a jeep and mentioned this problem to a certified chevrolet DEALER and he told me "They (GM) never got the equinox's right. They are still bringing in '10 models that have to have engines replaced.....but this truck here, the 1500s never had a problem etc etc etc" point is they all have issues and you have to pick your poison. If you wanted a pretty car with shiny trinkets you should have bought a Buick. Try driving that across a mountain and see how many bells and whistles are left hanging if you get to the other side. Thats what warranties are for if it is broke, take it back and get it fixed, one thing i look for is a good warranty. Otherwise you can do what some others have done on here and remove the carpet line the floors and pull the drain plugs
06-18-2013 11:14 PM
dreinecke Sad to hear this from the OP. My 2012 has ZERO leaks, head problems, or other issues at 14k. The 2013 at 3500 has ZERO leaks, or other issues. Love them both!
06-18-2013 10:46 PM
Up Hill Bill
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Originally Posted by JTE View Post
The Pentastar engines are manufactured in Trenton.
Yeap, Trenton, Michigan.... That must be what I was thinking, yea, that's the ticket.....
06-18-2013 10:42 PM
JTE The Pentastar engines are manufactured in Trenton.
06-18-2013 09:59 PM
zerinS4 If it makes you feel any better, my 10A Rubi was built on April Fool's day, which also happened to be a Monday. Double whammy. So far no issues, but that fact still kind of haunts me
06-18-2013 09:50 PM
FXnut
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Originally Posted by RoadiJeff View Post
Maybe the OP's Wrangler was built on a Friday.

Decades ago I worked on a Chrysler assembly line. Did it for 10 years. It was boring work but I got good and fast enough at what I did to have enough time before the next vehicle arrived at my station to study for a better job - a few seconds at a time.

Although it was boring work I started the day as if each vehicle coming down the line was mine and I was going to do my part as perfectly as I could. I can't say that everyone who worked there had the same approach but I just tried to concentrate on my little contribution to the big picture.
X2

I worked for 11 years in a factory building Jeep frames(among other manufacturers) and yes there were certain workers working in the plant that shouldn't have been, but there were also LOTS of issues with management and quality control, and this is probably the reason that plant is now closed.
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