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07-01-2013 05:31 PM
CumminsGift
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Originally Posted by WGHyrum View Post
Track bars are completely unnecessary on leaf sprung suspensions. They are designed to keep the axles in line for use with coil sprung suspensions. Leaf springs already do this better. They were put on YJs as a government mandate, I believe.
The sway bar is useful for cornering, especially if you lift. It keeps the vehicle from leaning too far laterally. I don't have one on mine (2" BDS lift) but if I were lifted any higher I would want it; the center mass of the vehicle would be higher resulting in more roll while cornering.
Fair enough, thanks for the clearification.
Btw, nice signature, so true
07-01-2013 03:23 PM
WGHyrum
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Originally Posted by CumminsGift View Post

Think the front trac needs to go as well huh? But keep the front sway bar?
Track bars are completely unnecessary on leaf sprung suspensions. They are designed to keep the axles in line for use with coil sprung suspensions. Leaf springs already do this better. They were put on YJs as a government mandate, I believe.
The sway bar is useful for cornering, especially if you lift. It keeps the vehicle from leaning too far laterally. I don't have one on mine (2" BDS lift) but if I were lifted any higher I would want it; the center mass of the vehicle would be higher resulting in more roll while cornering.
07-01-2013 12:13 PM
CumminsGift
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Originally Posted by JD95YJ View Post
Yeah definitely remove trac bars and just get quick disconnects for the sway bar (if you still want to use it)
Think the front trac needs to go as well huh? But keep the front sway bar?
06-20-2013 10:04 PM
Ibuildembig Tube diameter doesn't denote shaft size. It's not a 60 outer I can tell you that. Dynatrac did some odd stuff back in the day. The other thing that bothers me is that it appears to have a front axle chunk in the back. This would mean the gears run on the coast side of the gear which isn't a good idea.
06-20-2013 09:56 PM
petercass88 here are more pics. 3+" axle shafts does not mean its a D44... 3+ is indicative of a D60. BUT... naysayers gonna nay say.






06-09-2013 11:22 PM
petercass88
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Originally Posted by Ibuildembig View Post
Get some more pics of it tomorrow and we can tell you what it is/was. Looks like 44 outters to me.
its a bit hard, i have it pulled apart with all the parts around it (you might notice my hood in the pictures) while attempting monstaliner for the first time inside and out. I will try to take what I can. I took it to this place called Jeepers Den and they had confirmed they were Dana 60s but like i said, they are big enough for me whether they are 60s or 44s. Ill try to get more pictures when i can.
06-09-2013 11:22 PM
Norcal_Chris Definatly some sort off oddball 44 hybrid. Probably was a HP pass drop axle from dynatrac like you said, but someone retubed it to drivers drop.

Ive seen 2 or 3 SUA d60 fronts. Not very common or smart since most with the need and funds for a 60 that want it low should just Link it.

06-09-2013 11:20 PM
petercass88 honestly one way or another whether they are 60's or not... first thing everyone says when they see it is "wow those are huge axles, why did you go so big without bigger tires?" Cant answer that question... PO did all that! They are easily big enough to run 35's. Not sure i would ever want bigger than 35s unless i went with a V8 conversion but i love my little 4 banger. If i want to go fast then ill take my G37 out for a spin.
06-09-2013 11:18 PM
Ibuildembig Get some more pics of it tomorrow and we can tell you what it is/was. Looks like 44 outters to me.
06-09-2013 11:16 PM
petercass88
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Originally Posted by Ibuildembig View Post
Which seals?
axle shaft seals
06-09-2013 11:16 PM
petercass88 its definitely an older axle, its from Dynatrac. They dont even make it anymore, a phone call had to be made to get the seals.
06-09-2013 11:15 PM
Ibuildembig Which seals?
06-09-2013 11:14 PM
petercass88 hmm i just had the seals in the front replaced and they required an older style D60 seal
06-09-2013 11:05 PM
Ibuildembig It's definitely odd though, it looks like a GM/dodge center section moved over to the drivers side. What's throwing me is that it appears to be hp and that's a ford only thing. We need more pics to determine what someone made.
06-09-2013 11:01 PM
Ibuildembig Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that's not a 60 front. Sorry
06-09-2013 10:46 PM
petercass88
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Originally Posted by Ibuildembig View Post
Sua 60 front? I'm not sure that's possible...
naysayers gonna nay say.


They are beefcakes. The picture doesnt do them justice. They are bigger than the axles on my beastly ramcharger. they have 4.88 gears in em... I have been hunting for 35s but at least i know my odds of breaking an axle are slim lol! I wish i knew how to do SOA or if there was someone in my area that could. I know it involves welding which i CANT do.. BAAHH!!! But, it has a black diamond lift kit. PO said it was 5" but i doubt its that much. Revolver shackles on the back and reversal kit on the front. 3/4 ton disk breaks front and rear as well. With tiny 33's i can stop on a dime considering the little 4 banger cant get me going that fast anyways. I have been on the hunt for some nice 35's but its hard to consider parting with the 33's since they are practically brand new and I know i wouldn't get what i want for em.

Here are some more pictures of me not having a trac bar or sway bars.


Dont mind my rusty mess of an exhaust...
06-09-2013 03:23 PM
Ibuildembig I'd prolly do it lol
06-09-2013 09:32 AM
IndyJeepMan
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Originally Posted by Ibuildembig View Post

Sua 60 front? I'm not sure that's possible...
I agree. Not possible to my knowledge.

Also, 60's on 33"s? Talk about drag.
06-09-2013 07:42 AM
Ibuildembig
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Originally Posted by petercass88 View Post
as someone who has always driven low to the ground cars with tight suspensions... i was pleasantly surprised and shocked to find out the YJ i bought had no track bars and no sway bars. I never feel like i am going to leave a stain on the drivers seat when hopping on the highway. (5" SUA Lift with 33" tires on Dana 60 1ton axles)
Sua 60 front? I'm not sure that's possible...
06-09-2013 02:14 AM
WGHyrum
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Originally Posted by petercass88 View Post
as someone who has always driven low to the ground cars with tight suspensions... i was pleasantly surprised and shocked to find out the YJ i bought had no track bars and no sway bars. I never feel like i am going to leave a stain on the drivers seat when hopping on the highway. (5" SUA Lift with 33" tires on Dana 60 1ton axles)
I am jealous of your axles.
06-08-2013 11:16 PM
petercass88 as someone who has always driven low to the ground cars with tight suspensions... i was pleasantly surprised and shocked to find out the YJ i bought had no track bars and no sway bars. I never feel like i am going to leave a stain on the drivers seat when hopping on the highway. (5" SUA Lift with 33" tires on Dana 60 1ton axles)
06-08-2013 11:54 AM
WGHyrum I run without track bars. I noticed that on my stock suspension the track bar made the left rear spring sag more because it pushes laterally that direction.
I tested out running with homemade q/ds on the sway bar for a while, but found that I prefer to keep it off, so I removed it. When I had it disconnected, I would just tie it up to the frame with paracord. I don't think it was necessary, but better safe than KLUNK!
By the way, I just drove 2200 miles this week without the sway bars on everything from flat Wyoming highways to Moab to crossing the Great Divide via curvy US 50 in Colorado without a sway bar, track bars, or problems.
06-08-2013 11:40 AM
JD95YJ
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Originally Posted by CumminsGift View Post
Never experienced with either. . . . Just got my YJ and put a 2.5 susp lift. Think that I will roll with the Trac bar removed and then disconnect the sway when I go wheelin.

Thx guys
Yeah definitely remove trac bars and just get quick disconnects for the sway bar (if you still want to use it)
06-07-2013 09:59 PM
CumminsGift Never experienced with either. . . . Just got my YJ and put a 2.5 susp lift. Think that I will roll with the Trac bar removed and then disconnect the sway when I go wheelin.

Thx guys
06-06-2013 12:07 PM
roadyrob
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Originally Posted by JD95YJ View Post
lol it could've been worse.. For instance he could've said here's your answer: Let me google that for you
LOL, I've always liked that one. personally I always search before posting a new thread. the forums are a great source of knowledge, usually I can find dozens of answers to my question and I don't have to wait.
06-06-2013 11:34 AM
JD95YJ
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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn View Post
Also around here we don't tell folks to go search... we are a active forum, not a data base.. we like people ask any question they want even one that has been asked over and over.

As for the OP's question, nope you don't need either track bar for on road or off on a YJ... but as stated do your own testing and see what you like.
lol it could've been worse.. For instance he could've said here's your answer: Let me google that for you
06-06-2013 11:14 AM
jeff_in_rc To me it would not be worth the hassle to constantly be removing and installing the trac bars to go wheeling, but hey thats me.

The sway bars is a no brainer but the trac bars, naw.
06-06-2013 10:55 AM
cakes567 They do sell quick disconnect sway bars and track bars. Take em off when your off road and put them back on when your on road
06-06-2013 10:10 AM
Scott-CJ8
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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn View Post
Also around here we don't tell folks to go search... we are a active forum, not a data base.. we like people ask any question they want even one that has been asked over and over.
My apologies to Meshugga.
Sorry about that... not meant to be a discouraging remark. That part wasn't serious, but was just giving reference to the vast discussions in the past. To avoid another long, drawn out post, I thought a reference point might help.

Keep the questions and discussions coming. There is a lot of good info here, current and in past posts as well.
06-05-2013 08:53 PM
AZ_Zoner I use a short bungee cord on each side to hold them up to the fender support bar, and a even shorter bungee to hold the bottom portion back to the axle. I did a 5 mile rocky trail one time with just the top bungee up and the bottoms had vibrated real close to the point where it could of destroyed the bottom part of the link. I have the JSK that split in the middle.

cb
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