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06-29-2013 11:11 AM
mgola27
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Originally Posted by HRR1 View Post
I thought the 2012 and earlier models had a 20" max water depth and the 2013 had a 30" max as the alternator was moved to the top of the engine compartment. Yes? No?
There may be a difference in placement, but not max depth. My 2009 manual states 30" max fording depth.

That measures about to the Wrangler decal on the fenders.
06-26-2013 11:53 PM
Lusus_Naturae
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Originally Posted by Jared66 View Post
The jku has its rear diff breather attached to the bottom of the back wheel well liner. If water reaches top of tires you'll be pullin your cover unless you relocate it
Yep - go out a get a hose mender and extend those breathers. The front isn't much better, it's on the driver's side, just behind the top of the shock mount.
06-26-2013 05:03 PM
NYJETS
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Originally Posted by NYJETS View Post
Finished the front. I ran it up the drivers side and ended it next to what I believe is the ABS unit in front of the master cylinder. Cost an extra $7 dollars. So far in about $22. I am going to think about doing the transfer case. It is already 40" above ground. i feel more comfortable if i need to go through water.

Gotta say it was easier than expected and happy I did it myself...
Just remeasured. The transfer case breather is 37" high. Thats the lowest point now unless I missed something. 8" for $22 and about an hour a fiddlin around not bad.
06-26-2013 03:06 PM
NYJETS Finished the front. I ran it up the drivers side and ended it next to what I believe is the ABS unit in front of the master cylinder. Cost an extra $7 dollars. So far in about $22. I am going to think about doing the transfer case. It is already 40" above ground. i feel more comfortable if i need to go through water.

Gotta say it was easier than expected and happy I did it myself...
06-26-2013 02:23 PM
redskinswin
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Originally Posted by FIREMEDIC82 View Post
I just gotta throw this in here being a firefighter/emt.... turn around don't drown. If you are out wheelin, then its fine. But you never know if the road is washed out!
We actually have a law in Arizona called the stupid motorist law for idiots that drive through flooded areas and have to get rescued. A flood here during monsoon season can actually take your car downstream with only 6 inches of water. Its not worth it.

If a stupid motorist gets rescued they are charged for the rescue. Happens every year and people still die. Just boggles my mind.
06-26-2013 01:11 PM
socal-jk Stay out of mud unless you have to, stay out of water unless you have to. If you can't tell how deep it is don't go in. Common sense. If you want to play in water buy a boat. Nothing wrong with having a snorkel and breathers "incase shit happens" but Jeep builds a great 4x4 and a poor submarine. Most trails everyone knows the water crossings and time of year, if your in BFE by yourself or with friends in BFE think twice.
06-26-2013 12:50 PM
NYJETS Just did my very first mod Big thanks to Rooster76. I read his differential extention thread and just got done with mine. I have only done the rear at this time. The clearance went from 29" to 45". Cost me 15 dollars. Sweet!!!!

Doing the front next.
06-23-2013 10:13 PM
DFW6ER
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Originally Posted by HRR1 View Post
I thought the 2012 and earlier models had a 20" max water depth and the 2013 had a 30" max as the alternator was moved to the top of the engine compartment. Yes? No?
I think the '11 (3.8L) is what you're referring to with the alternator location. My 2012 (3.6L) has the alternator up high
06-23-2013 10:04 PM
HRR1 I thought the 2012 and earlier models had a 20" max water depth and the 2013 had a 30" max as the alternator was moved to the top of the engine compartment. Yes? No?
06-23-2013 01:36 AM
Jared66 Simple concept. Simple solution. If you Gunna go swimming with your jeep. Design it to do so. Or your Gunna sink. If you think because your breathers or air intake or what ever is at x". So If the water is 2 inches shallower your safe. Well. Good luck with the rebuild. After you rescue your rig.

Build and prepare for worst case scenario, and you might just make it. You save yourself, and the people who would have to save your ass, alot of time, effort, and resources. If you plan ahead. Prepare. And use common sense.. At the end of the day, you'll be ok. Bottom line. Just don't be a retard. Lol
06-22-2013 06:31 PM
mgola27
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Originally Posted by l2abbit View Post
My dealership told me me that the trail badge line is the max water line? Any truth to that or is it just shenanigans?

All I know is
http://www.thejeepgeek.com/home/Blog...il_Rating.html
Shenanigans. Your dealership better be ready to absorb the hydro lock claims if they keep telling people that.

Manual states 30".

Trail Rated badge is about 40".
06-22-2013 09:38 AM
NYJETS
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Originally Posted by Jared66 View Post
The jku has its rear diff breather attached to the bottom of the back wheel well liner. If water reaches top of tires you'll be pullin your cover unless you relocate it
OK, I checked. The rear hose is 29" above the ground. The front one was in the left fender and was 34" above ground. I guess then if I kept it below that for now I will be good. I will def be modding that higher at a later date.
06-22-2013 05:36 AM
doufus1 I was told not to go through water that is higher than the top of your rim. Regardless of what vehicle you are in. Keep your speed steady but don't go to fast. Keep a bow wave in front of the vehicle. The only other thing that has not been mentioned is to get out of your vehicle and walk through the water first. ( not always practicable, but if you can, do it ) Then you can find the washed out parts of the road which you need to avoid. Your jeep will die or float away just like any other vehicle. It may make you cold and wet, but at least you have a better chance of getting home.

The main point is to use common sense. Be sure of what you are doing. And when you get home, check your oils for water contamination. Cheap to drain and replace.
06-22-2013 02:51 AM
LameStory I don't have my manual in front of me to see the wording, but other people in this thread have said that 30" is the max water depth for our Jeeps. So it must have been the Jeep website that I read the other half of that - they say 30" at less than 5 mph, or 10" at greater than 5 mph. Presumably that would be due to the increased risk of water splashing into the air box at higher speeds.

If you look at AEV's faq on their snorkel they say something to the effect that while a snorkel does help eliminate the risk of water in the air box, there are still plenty of other things that can be affected by fording deep water so they still never recommend going deeper than what the owner's manual says.

Putting the two ideas together, I gather that means it's still never a good idea to go deeper than 30" without a lift but you could theoretically be a bit less cautious about your speed if you have a snorkel. Still, high speeds are probably a bad idea regardless.

But assuming one has addressed the breathers and air box issues, what else is there to worry about? Wiring, either under the hood or in the doors/seats? Anything else?
06-21-2013 01:37 PM
FIREMEDIC82
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Originally Posted by corvallisbattery View Post
Water, dirt and other contaminates are introduced into the clutch friction disk. If it doesn't kill your throwout bearing... it will make short work of your friction material
So can regular off roading affect this?
06-21-2013 12:39 PM
Rooster76
Covering the Manual's Vent

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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post
Curious as to why no one every made a "screen" or something for the manual trany holes? The water itself doesn't cause damage (clutch works the same way brakes do) but the crap in the water....if you can filter the water before it enters the clutch area, you would be fine. Seems like an easy enough project no?
From reading through a bunch of threads the best guess for the hole seems to be to let heat out, but also to let the clutch dust out. It seems like any effort to put a screen that would be tight woven enough to remove mud and grit, would not let the clutch dust out. There was a huge thread I read on a Canadian forum where they were trying to come up with something. It was suggested that putting a skid plate over it like the EVO Protek might help out some.

06-21-2013 11:35 AM
dpostman Ground Clearance:
2013 Sahara & Rubicon both have stock 10.5 inches of ground clearance because of the 32" wheel size

2013 Sport have 9.1 inches of ground Clearance. Stock tire size is just above 29"

So just slightly less water depth in sport. Measurable but negligible in real life.

I will not be testing it (At least not on purpose).
06-21-2013 11:20 AM
NFRs2000NYC Curious as to why no one every made a "screen" or something for the manual tranny holes? The water itself doesn't cause damage (clutch works the same way brakes do) but the crap in the water....if you can filter the water before it enters the clutch area, you would be fine. Seems like an easy enough project no?
06-21-2013 11:05 AM
l2abbit
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Originally Posted by WatchThis! View Post

Fender deep with a stock setup is just asking for trouble. What if you hit a spot that is only 3 or 4 more inches deeper? You can find people snorting cinnamon, kicking eachother in the nuts, hitting eachother with hammers, and eating zit puss on YouTube. That doesn't mean it s a good idea to do it.
Agreed I don't plan on going over 35"s ever
06-21-2013 10:58 AM
WatchThis!
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Originally Posted by positrak View Post
Fender deep with a stock setup is just asking for trouble. What if you hit a spot that is only 3 or 4 more inches deeper? You can find people snorting cinnamon, kicking eachother in the nuts, hitting eachother with hammers, and eating zit puss on YouTube. That doesn't mean it s a good idea to do it.
06-21-2013 10:52 AM
WatchThis!
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Originally Posted by l2abbit View Post
My dealership told me me that the trail badge line is the max water line? Any truth to that or is it just shenanigans?

All I know is
http://www.thejeepgeek.com/home/Blog...il_Rating.html
I don't remember how high they are since I pulled mine off a long time ago. But I am sure it is wayy to high. Arnt they close to the bottom of the hood or something close to that. If not I know it was higher then the bottom of the doors, wich is the point that I start getting worried when in water.
06-21-2013 10:47 AM
positrak Jeep JK in water - YouTube
06-21-2013 10:43 AM
l2abbit My dealership told me me that the trail badge line is the max water line? Any truth to that or is it just shenanigans?

All I know is
http://www.thejeepgeek.com/home/Blog...il_Rating.html
06-21-2013 10:16 AM
mgola27
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Originally Posted by NYJETS View Post
I believe that the Saharas and Rubi's come with 18" rims and am assuming it makes the rig sit up 1" more than the sport with 17". I could be wrong though not an expert by any means.
It's not the rim so much as the tire. the 17 inch Sport S/Rubicon rims have about 32" tires. The 18 inch Sahara has a 32 inch tire. No real height difference.

255/75R17 = 32.1"
255/70R18 = 32.1"

You can put 35 inch tires on a 17 inch rim or a 15 inch rim and your ground clearance will be the same.
06-21-2013 10:06 AM
Duckquackers J E T S it would sit them about .5" above but even at that check your good ole Jeep book and I believe they say around 30". I haven't gone to deep but I will tell you I thankfully made it out of some gunk that was half way up my spare tire. Currently sitting on 37" with 4" lift.
06-21-2013 10:02 AM
NYJETS
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Originally Posted by WatchThis! View Post
I am scratching my head trying to figure out what size rims you have has to do with any of this.
I believe that the Saharas and Rubi's come with 18" rims and am assuming it makes the rig sit up 1" more than the sport with 17". I could be wrong though not an expert by any means.
06-21-2013 09:54 AM
Rooster76 I would check out this thread.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/how...le-241948.html

It has a few videos to check out, a picture of a snorkel, what to do after hydro locking, etc.
06-21-2013 09:48 AM
Rooster76 This is a manual trans below. See the part labeled vent on the transmission. That is what stops you from being able to clutch on deep water. If you look in there you be staring right at the flywheel. There is also a vent on the top. You cannot plug them.

06-21-2013 09:47 AM
WatchThis! I am scratching my head trying to figure out what size rims you have has to do with any of this.
06-21-2013 09:44 AM
mgola27 All advice given is good, especially FIREMEDIC82's advice.

That said, assuming you don't want to lift, you could get a snorkel which effectively relocates your air intake to above the hood (on the cowl), or over the windshield.

You certainly don't want water flowing over your fender and into the engine (the air intake is right over the passenger side fender).

Stay safe in the water. Things can get bad really fast. Not speaking from experience, thankfully, but I've seen/read some crazy stuff.
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