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09-25-2013 10:46 AM
ConradCalvin Mates,

I was able to downloaded a set of installation instructions for the JK from Spidertrax, and they specify 90lbs w/ thread-locker or locktite..etc, and a re-torque on the bolts with 80lbs at 50 miles or 80kms. Those that feel loose you have to take them off and re-apply thread locker, and torque them back at 90lbs...re-check at 80kms again with 80lbs torque setting.

Cheers
09-24-2013 07:48 AM
ConradCalvin Hey Gents,

Just wondering if you guys know what the proper amount of Torque is for the bolts...I keep reading that 120 lbs is where you want to be..Is this true? And, does this apply to both the spacer to studs, and rim to spacer?

A few people have mentioned 90lbs, 100lbs, 120lbs....what is the magical number?

Thanks!
06-23-2013 07:47 PM
4DoorCrush
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Originally Posted by Gily View Post
Di I need them if i install 35"s?
Yes
06-23-2013 07:24 PM
Gily Di I need them if i install 35"s?
06-22-2013 06:26 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by michiganadam View Post
Well, i wanted to use different wheels so i could keep the street tires for winter tires because i was told 33x12.5s sucked in the winter. But now I see that a stack of 5 tires sitting in my garage is sort of unbarable. But they were brand new tires and i didnt know wtf to do with them otherwise.
There will always be naysayers.

Do what you need to do, financially, and go from there. Hands-on. That's how you learn.
06-22-2013 04:51 PM
michiganadam Well, i wanted to use different wheels so i could keep the street tires for winter tires because i was told 33x12.5s sucked in the winter. But now I see that a stack of 5 tires sitting in my garage is sort of unbarable. But they were brand new tires and i didnt know wtf to do with them otherwise.
06-22-2013 11:22 AM
kjeeper10 That's why the instructions say to set 10 ft lb less @ 80
06-22-2013 11:15 AM
GotNet
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Originally Posted by Knuckles65 View Post

Thanks. I debated on doing this for a while but have decided that even when I upgrade tires, I'll most likely keep the same wheels. I plan to re-torque after 100 miles, then after 300 more miles. After that, I think I should be good. I used lock-tite, too.

Yep - the Spidertrax spacers are HUB-centric. It's the only way I would have done it. I used lug-centric when I had a Ford Ranger and hated the way they mounted and how the truck drove after I installed them.
If you re-torque won't the Loctite bond shear negating its use?
06-22-2013 11:05 AM
kjeeper10 Sa-----weet
06-22-2013 10:19 AM
Knuckles65
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Originally Posted by michiganadam View Post
Sometimes i think the excessive backspace from the factory was done to cause us to put bigger tires on them because they knew they looked funny stock........

Your jeep looks very nice with those spacers. Remember to retorque them soon. I would suggest retorquing several times more than the instructions say, to be safe, since there's no way to tell if they're coming loose or not, without pulling the wheels...

I simply bought wheels as the spacers wouldve cost almost as much as the wheels i bought. But i had steel wheels and i have steel wheels now. I might not have done that if i had a rubicon.
Thanks. I debated on doing this for a while but have decided that even when I upgrade tires, I'll most likely keep the same wheels. I plan to re-torque after 100 miles, then after 300 more miles. After that, I think I should be good. I used lock-tite, too.

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Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
^^ This.

Doesn't HAVE to be hub centric, but if I was choosing, that's the way I'd go.
Yep - the Spidertrax spacers are HUB-centric. It's the only way I would have done it. I used lug-centric when I had a Ford Ranger and hated the way they mounted and how the truck drove after I installed them.
06-22-2013 09:05 AM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Def run a good quality spacer like Spidertrax. Synergy and TF makes them as well.

You will get varying opinions on spacers. Bottom line is they are no different then running a lower back spaced wheel. Preventive maintenance is important. Make sure you loctite and properly torque. You are also required to check the torque by lowering the wrench 10 ft lbs. the wrench should click. If the bolt moves/tightens, re loctite and torque again.
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Hub centric locate on the hub not the lugs. My St's were hub centric.
I would think you're better off with Hub centric.
^^ This.

Doesn't HAVE to be hub centric, but if I was choosing, that's the way I'd go.
06-22-2013 08:58 AM
michiganadam Sometimes i think the excessive backspace from the factory was done to cause us to put bigger tires on them because they knew they looked funny stock........

Your jeep looks very nice with those spacers. Remember to retorque them soon. I would suggest retorquing several times more than the instructions say, to be safe, since there's no way to tell if they're coming loose or not, without pulling the wheels...

I simply bought wheels as the spacers wouldve cost almost as much as the wheels i bought. But i had steel wheels and i have steel wheels now. I might not have done that if i had a rubicon.
06-22-2013 06:34 AM
Knuckles65 OK, installed the spacers last night after work. Stupid easy to install and took a total of about an hour. The worst part of the install was removing the clips that hold the brake rotors in place. Two clips on each front rotor, four clips on each rear rotor. 80 to 90 ft-lb torque per the included instructions.

Two observations -

1. I really LOVE the slightly more aggressive look. Why didn't Jeep do this from the factory?

2. The ride does seem more stable. There's a lot of twisty roads in my part of the country and these really help make the Jeep feel more "planted". Even my wife commented on it.

Here's a couple pics of "before" and "after".

Before -


After -


Front - After -
06-21-2013 12:25 PM
mjpjr45 I've had mine for over 8000 miles now, with no problems. I love extra width and it comes in handy when running my 305/70/17s on stock Rubicon wheels.
06-21-2013 07:34 AM
michiganadam Dont use lugcentric spacers. I run lugcentic wheels but they have to be retorqued a couple times after i change one. Kinda hard to retorque a spacer though lol.

There are disadvantages but other than retorquing the nuts, id say its the same as lower backspace wheels. Which put additional stress on everything connected. I wouldnt worry much about it.
06-21-2013 06:08 AM
Billy Baldone I installd mine almost 5000 miles ago. No problems, and my Jeep handles better. I also put 33x12.5x15 wheels/tires on at the same time. Mine is also Commando Green 2dr. I dont know how to post pics, but if you pm me your number, I can send some pics.
Billy
06-21-2013 04:46 AM
Knuckles65 So UPS dropped the spacers off (late - after 8PM) last night. I'll be installing them after work today and will let everyone know.

Thanks again for your help and guidance!
06-19-2013 11:47 AM
Knuckles65
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
It's all in the instructions
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Originally Posted by kappaknight View Post
Yeah, it's all in the instructions. IIRC, it's around 90, then 80 to check.
Thanks guys. I figured I'd ask and know ahead of time instead of waiting for them to show up and be missing the instructions - which is usually my luck.
06-19-2013 10:33 AM
mike1158 i pretty sure a set of TF 1.25" are in my future. I already SLIGHTLY upgraged the tires to 275/65-18 Grabbers ...same height as stock... I'm pretty sure i'll never lift it or go with bigger tires.. THe Jeep is actually my work truck.. i do 500-600 miles a week and it is just fine as is for what i need.. I just want to add spacers to widen the stance a bit....
06-19-2013 08:34 AM
kappaknight Yeah, it's all in the instructions. IIRC, it's around 90, then 80 to check.
06-19-2013 07:47 AM
kjeeper10 It's all in the instructions
06-19-2013 06:48 AM
4DoorCrush
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Originally Posted by Abnormal-JK View Post
Did mine to 100... and simply dropped a 1/2" punch into the rotor to keep them from spinning... remember to recheck all lugs after a couple hundred miles.
Thanks for reminding me! Meant to recheck mine over the weekend and forgot
06-19-2013 06:20 AM
Abnormal-JK Did mine to 100... and simply dropped a 1/2" punch into the rotor to keep them from spinning... remember to recheck all lugs after a couple hundred miles.
06-19-2013 05:47 AM
Knuckles65 Thanks! I kind of figured, but wasn't 100% sure. Now I know!

Anyone know the proper torque spec?
06-19-2013 04:53 AM
4DoorCrush Putting in 4wd will keep the front from spinning free
06-19-2013 04:52 AM
Knuckles65 Might be a stupid question -

I'm expecting the spacers by the end of the week and have an installation question or two.

1. What torque spec should these be installed with? I've heard 125 ft-lb and I've heard 90 to 100 ft-lb.

2. This might be a dumb question and I feel stupid for asking but how do you keep the rotor from turning while trying to torque the nuts when the front end is in the air? I figured in the rear, I can use the e-brake from letting the wheel/hub spin. Should I be in 4wd before parking the Jeep to do this?
06-17-2013 11:46 AM
Knuckles65 Will do!
06-17-2013 09:18 AM
Abnormal-JK Once you install them, I'd love to hear if you feel any difference in handling/ride... just to make sure it's not all in my head
06-17-2013 09:05 AM
kjeeper10
06-17-2013 09:03 AM
Knuckles65
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Either will work for what you want to do. The 1.50 will be closer to the 4.5 back spacing recommended running bigger tires. Stock is 6.25 iirc. Minus 1.5 = 4.75
Thanks so much for the info guys!

I went ahead and ordered a set (4) of Spidertrax 1.5" spacers.

Really appreciate all the advice!
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