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06-21-2013 06:51 PM
OhSixTJ Not everyone wheels in rocks. I don't have anything like that close to me (that I know of) so all my jeep gets to play in is sand at the beach and dried up washboard ranch roads. Maybe it'll rain enough one of these days to make mud!
06-21-2013 06:47 PM
Jerry Bransford If you're not doing trails that are tough enough to have to rub your tires/wheels at times, clip-on weights would be ok. My wheels are always up against something so clip-on weighs absolutely don't work for me. It all depends on how difficult your offroad trails are.
06-21-2013 06:38 PM
flflash Most modern offroad style tires now have the "rim protector" type beads/sidewalls. I don't think clip on weights are as much a problem anymore.
06-21-2013 06:18 PM
dklassen I never had a problem knocking one off.
06-21-2013 06:11 PM
boomer_95 not necessarily. if you do a lot of off roading/mudding you probably don't care about on road performance/vibrations or have to much mud in your tires for weights to be of any use.

point being that if he took the time to have his spare tire balanced, he most likely doesn't do any hard-core off-roading, meaning that hammer on weights are his best option for on road performance
06-21-2013 05:52 PM
Jerry Bransford
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true... but then they aren't much concerned with balanced wheels anyways, as their average speed is 10 mph. and the build up of mud pretty much makes weights useless anyway
Are we now talking about mud boggers whose Jeeps are trailered on the highways?
06-21-2013 05:45 PM
boomer_95 true... but then they aren't much concerned with balanced wheels anyways, as their average speed is 10 mph. and the build up of mud pretty much makes weights useless anyway
06-21-2013 05:30 PM
Jerry Bransford Again, hammering weights onto wheels like that simply won't work for Jeeps that see much offroad time. Weights installed like that are too easily scraped off by rocks, obstacles, etc. You won't see an experienced offroader who does trails more difficult than a dirt road with hammered-on wheel weights. At least not for long.
06-21-2013 05:29 PM
dklassen I didn't want the stick on weights. I told the guy to put them wherever they were needed, inside or out. Took quite a few on the outside to get them perfect on a couple of them. I took some semigloss black and painted the weights and I don't even notice them. They blend right in with the black rims.

You can see them if you look hard enough but no one ever notices. It ain't no show car.
06-21-2013 05:02 PM
boomer_95 every tire shop would put weights on both sides if possible as it is the best way to get a perfect balance (unless otherwise told not to). especially for larger tires that don't like to balance to begin with. put some paint over the weights and be done with it.

take a look at the tires of cars/trucks on the road, and you will notice that almost every rim that has a lip on the outside (like yours) will also have a hammer on weight on it (some tires actually balance perfect without weights) but if it doesn't have a lip on the outside, like an aftermarket rim, it may have a hammer on weight on the inside (sometimes they don't even have a lip on the inside) and some stick on weights just behind the spokes. those lips arnt there for no reason

ive never used the BB's but have heard good reviews about certain companies
06-21-2013 03:43 PM
Jerry Bransford
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So should I pull em off Jerry front and back and go get it re-balanced and tell them I want peel and stick weights on the back only?
That's what I would do for both the front and back wheels. Peel & stick weights work well, that is all I have used for years on both of my TJs.
06-21-2013 02:50 PM
DavidW954 I've got this stuff in my tyres.

What is EASYBALANCE? Tyre Balancing Powder
06-21-2013 02:47 PM
Jeeping it real
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Maybe its just not well known? I think their are charts online you can find that will tell you how much to put in. As for the shops, I would just let them know so they aren't surprised. I mean how hard is it to just sweep up some BB's.
I'll look into it a little further. I forgot a friend of my dads owns a shop and also does tires, so I'll ask him. I'm just curious because sometimes all it takes is a pothole to knock a tire out of balance. If this method works, there would be no need for exterior wheel weights. Which to me would mean never having to get a tire rebalanced. A few BBs is worth not having to pay $12-16 per tire balance charge. And if I'm not mistaken, they still mount/dismount tires on a horizontal plane don't they? So the chances of a tire shop breaking the bead and having BBs go all over the floor is probably pretty slim.
06-21-2013 02:28 PM
raramirez
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Originally Posted by Jeeping it real View Post

You must have posted this at the time I was posting. So how do you determine the amount of bbs? And if this works so flawlessly as I've read on other sites, why doesn't everyone go this route?

Maybe its just not well known? I think their are charts online you can find that will tell you how much to put in. As for the shops, I would just let them know so they aren't surprised. I mean how hard is it to just sweep up some BB's.
06-21-2013 02:18 PM
OhSixTJ
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Originally Posted by Wattapunk View Post

I'm sure the tire shop would love to take a tire off to fix a flat and have BB's all over their shop.
Who cares what they like or don't like?
06-21-2013 02:16 PM
Wattapunk
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You must have posted this at the time I was posting. So how do you determine the amount of bbs? And if this works so flawlessly as I've read on other sites, why doesn't everyone go this route?
I'm sure the tire shop would love to take a tire off to fix a flat and have BB's all over their shop. An experienced tire shop that deals with oversize tires often will have little problems with balancing a large tire.
06-21-2013 02:06 PM
flflash
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So should I pull em off Jerry front and back and go get it re-balanced and tell them I want peel and stick weights on the back only?
I'd take it back to the guy have him balance them the way you want them and give him a $5 tip for being a nice guy. Then touch up the areas affected after he's done.
06-21-2013 02:04 PM
Jeeping it real
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Originally Posted by Smileyt View Post
I've used air soft bbs for years on many different jeeps. It works wonders

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You must have posted this at the time I was posting. So how do you determine the amount of bbs? And if this works so flawlessly as I've read on other sites, why doesn't everyone go this route?
06-21-2013 01:42 PM
raramirez Looking online I found a product called xact ballance. It has some good reviews. It works kinda like the BB's inside the tire but sticks onto the back of the rim.

Here is a link: http://www.imiproducts.com/index.php.../xact-balance/
06-21-2013 01:22 PM
Jeeping it real
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I've heard of people putting a certain amount of quality airsoft BB's in the tire to balance it. Its supposed to work well, but I have not done this myself. Maybe worth a try for you.
I've heard this also. Read somewhere that it works best on larger off road tires because they are so hard to balance to begin with. Unfortunately I don't know anyone versed enough in tire balancing to find out if there is truth in it. Does anyone here know/had experience?
06-21-2013 01:20 PM
Smileyt I've used air soft bbs for years on many different jeeps. It works wonders


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06-21-2013 01:05 PM
raramirez I've heard of people putting a certain amount of quality airsoft BB's in the tire to balance it. Its supposed to work well, but I have not done this myself. Maybe worth a try for you.
06-21-2013 01:02 PM
adkjoe So should I pull em off Jerry front and back and go get it re-balanced and tell them I want peel and stick weights on the back only?
06-21-2013 12:53 PM
Jerry Bransford Outside wheel weights are fine for cars but not for offroad vehicles where rocks, trail obstacles, etc. tend to scrape them off way too easily and far too often. I'd only go for tape-on (peel & stick) weights placed on the inside of the wheel, I haven't let the tire jocks use clip on weights in 15 years. Peel & stick wheel balancing weights have a low enough profile so they don't interfere with the brakes.
06-21-2013 12:42 PM
adkjoe They are scratched up from wheeling that doesn't bother me, believe me I'm not the keep it pristine type of guy however I'd like to avoid a big ugly corrosion mark if I can.
06-21-2013 11:28 AM
lindel Get some wheeling scratches on the rims, then the weights won't bother you so much...
06-21-2013 09:52 AM
adkjoe ^ your probably right and good idea...thanks.

I'm not too worried about the scratches from hammering them on it's when they sit on there for a long time it looks like they corrode the rim, like in the picture of the back side above.
06-21-2013 09:35 AM
Wattapunk With that big of a tire, sometimes it takes both sides to get it right. At this point, the "damage" if any, has been done so I would just leave it and spray some krylon satin black on the weights to make it less obvious.
06-21-2013 09:23 AM
AlexS I have seen them on the outside plenty of times, on multiple vehicles.
06-21-2013 09:10 AM
adkjoe I've seen a lot of threads on here over the years about painting rims. A lot of people use rustoleum bed liner and it seems to hold up well as long as you prep it correctly. Do a search I'm sure you can find one of the many detailed threads on painting the rims.

I've used rustoleum bed liner on a ton of things on the jeep and it looks great. It would look good on wheels as well.
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