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06-24-2013 12:48 PM
RubiCobra Not so many 'problems', more like 'challenges'. First off, to run the stretch and the outboarded CO's, you need a lot of parts. Genright has everything you need and is very helpful, but not exactly cheap.

Challenges I had: Notching the frame is no mean feat. I had a friend who is a certified welder help with the cutting and the welding. If you're running a stock width axle, You'll need to flip the rear calipers around to the front of the discs. You'll need to source an LJ e brake cable. You'll more than likely need to run spacers to keep the tires off of the new CO's.

I had the RK X factor long arm kit, so I called them and had them make up a set of new CA's 4 inches longer. They were very helpful.
06-23-2013 08:50 PM
PStov98TJ
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Originally Posted by RubiCobra View Post
I'm running King's and GR's kit. The install is less than easy especially on a stock width axle. If you have any specific questions, I'll do my best to answer them.
That's a nice rig. But elaborate a bit on it. What problems did you run into with mounting? What was in the way and how did you end up mounting them? Do you have a custom CA setup? If so how is it setup?
06-23-2013 08:14 PM
RubiCobra I'm running King's and GR's kit. The install is less than easy especially on a stock width axle. If you have any specific questions, I'll do my best to answer them.









06-22-2013 11:16 PM
Sccafire
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Originally Posted by s14sh3r View Post
Go ask Pirate. Be sure to ask in Chit Chat where lots of knowledgeable people hang out. Tell em FatDan sent you.
Also PM dieselmh over there.
06-22-2013 09:29 PM
Walkingstick
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Originally Posted by 2JeepsThatRun View Post
I don't know if it was just a guys set up or if it had anything to do with coil-overs but we have two JKs in our club that have about the same hight in lift and they are both 2 doors and the one with coil-overs seems to be much more fluent in its transitions when in the rocks. But like I said it might be something else that caused it to flex out so much smoother. I'm also no expert in them and my eyes could be deceiving me.
Coil overs are supreme in tuning.
Also? You can have a shock with it as well for different dampening/tuning.
03-21-2013 08:24 PM
EMTJEEP
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Originally Posted by CountryBoyJeep View Post
KINGS does look very good and I have looked at gen rights kit. How are your coilovers working for you?
I don't have coilovers because I went MC 6paks. Which are 14" travel in the front and 12" travel in the back without having to do outboards.
03-21-2013 07:48 PM
2JeepsThatRun I don't know if it was just a guys set up or if it had anything to do with coil-overs but we have two JKs in our club that have about the same hight in lift and they are both 2 doors and the one with coil-overs seems to be much more fluent in its transitions when in the rocks. But like I said it might be something else that caused it to flex out so much smoother. I'm also no expert in them and my eyes could be deceiving me.
03-21-2013 07:36 PM
jgorm The "best kit" is made with a JD2, some tube, and a welder. You can't go wrong with king shocks. Genright makes good stuff too. One of the main reasons I want to put on COs is to run proper dual rate springs.
03-21-2013 06:23 PM
s14sh3r
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Originally Posted by CountryBoyJeep View Post
KINGS does look very good and I have looked at gen rights kit. How are your coilovers working for you?





I sure hope you are not referring to me as a "dumb kid" and I stated I do not intend to get them, I wanted to be more knowledgeable on them. If you're post was to be rude as I have taken it you can leave my thread. If it is not intentionally that way my apologies.
Go ask Pirate. Be sure to ask in Chit Chat where lots of knowledgeable people hang out. Tell em FatDan sent you.
03-21-2013 05:12 PM
UFOtestpilot Apology accepted. I meant no offense, and I have no idea of your age. However, I don't believe I have anything further to contribute to the discussion. I hope you find what you want and enjoy the Jeep.
03-21-2013 05:08 PM
CountryBoyJeep
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Originally Posted by EMTJEEP View Post
I would say KINGS would be about the best coilover out there. If you go through GenRight they sell KINGS and they have them pre-tunned to our jeep setups or they will tune them the way you want. And by a kit, I figure you mean that it comes with everything you need to mount the coilovers and again I would say GenRight since they have the front hoops and rear outboard setups that come with the KINGS and they run about $1,500 for just a set for front or rear.
There are other coilovers out there like Fox, Sway-a-way, Bilstein, Icon.

If I didn't go with MC 6paks which I think is a better way of going, I would do coilovers just for the fact that they are compact and don't have to worry about the shocks and springs on a regular setup. That I think is the main reason some go to coilovers.

Here are the two setups they offer. They also have a newer front setup.
Gen-Right Preimum Front Shock Hoop Kit
GenRight Rear Shock Mount Kit
KINGS does look very good and I have looked at gen rights kit. How are your coilovers working for you?


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Originally Posted by UFOtestpilot View Post
Very far from it. In the years I spent doing track days and racing SCCA I discovered what I now refer to as the "Image and status culture effect". Out of all the guys (not all were dumb kids) that had coilover setups on track days, maybe 5% had any clue why they would make any one of the several adjustment options they had access to or what the compounding effects would be. Most of them used them to gain clearance for tire width they couldn't use due to their settings being completely jacked, and ride height adjustment, which they also got wrong.

With the sanctioned racing crowd it was a little different but not by as much as one would hope for. I realize that you aren't talking about racing on a track, but I am bringing this up because:

1. I would believe the two worlds aren't that far apart. Mostly because people are people.

2. The function of compression and rebound damping, droop, bump, spring rate, preload, and stack height are going to be the same regardless of application.

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve with them but I can tell you that a thorough understanding of how coilovers work, why they can sometimes be beneficial, and how to know the "why" of your decision cannot be explained in a thread on the forum. There are volumes of books on the subject though and some of the ones I've found are quite good.

I sure hope you are not referring to me as a "dumb kid" and I stated I do not intend to get them, I wanted to be more knowledgeable on them. If you're post was to be rude as I have taken it you can leave my thread. If it is not intentionally that way my apologies.
03-21-2013 04:33 PM
UFOtestpilot
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Originally Posted by CountryBoyJeep View Post
Guess I'm not the only one who has no true knowledge on them.
Very far from it. In the years I spent doing track days and racing SCCA I discovered what I now refer to as the "Image and status culture effect". Out of all the guys (not all were dumb kids) that had coilover setups on track days, maybe 5% had any clue why they would make any one of the several adjustment options they had access to or what the compounding effects would be. Most of them used them to gain clearance for tire width they couldn't use due to their settings being completely jacked, and ride height adjustment, which they also got wrong.

With the sanctioned racing crowd it was a little different but not by as much as one would hope for. I realize that you aren't talking about racing on a track, but I am bringing this up because:

1. I would believe the two worlds aren't that far apart. Mostly because people are people.

2. The function of compression and rebound damping, droop, bump, spring rate, preload, and stack height are going to be the same regardless of application.

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve with them but I can tell you that a thorough understanding of how coilovers work, why they can sometimes be beneficial, and how to know the "why" of your decision cannot be explained in a thread on the forum. There are volumes of books on the subject though and some of the ones I've found are quite good.
03-21-2013 04:32 PM
EMTJEEP I would say KINGS would be about the best coilover out there. If you go through GenRight they sell KINGS and they have them pre-tunned to our jeep setups or they will tune them the way you want. And by a kit, I figure you mean that it comes with everything you need to mount the coilovers and again I would say GenRight since they have the front hoops and rear outboard setups that come with the KINGS and they run about $1,500 for just a set for front or rear.
There are other coilovers out there like Fox, Sway-a-way, Bilstein, Icon.

If I didn't go with MC 6paks which I think is a better way of going, I would do coilovers just for the fact that they are compact and don't have to worry about the shocks and springs on a regular setup. That I think is the main reason some go to coilovers.

Here are the two setups they offer. They also have a newer front setup.
Gen-Right Preimum Front Shock Hoop Kit
GenRight Rear Shock Mount Kit
03-21-2013 04:12 PM
00tj2 I think your best bet would be to go over to pirate and read through the tec sections and builds.
03-21-2013 04:06 PM
CountryBoyJeep Guess I'm not the only one who has no true knowledge on them.
03-21-2013 02:47 PM
CountryBoyJeep
Coilovers - Pictures and Information

I may never have the money to do coilovers as I'd do 100 other mods before I change out my suspension.
but.... I want to learn.
Tell me everything you know about it... Best kit, best manufacture, the differences between normal and coilovers, the install, just anything you know.
I'd really like to see pictures too.. they don't even have to be yours.

Post away my fellow Jeepers
Help me learn

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