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10-02-2013 04:06 PM
Mmoroz789 I did. Didn't like the Sahara wheels as much
10-02-2013 02:15 PM
Jrocket ^^^

Did you actually read the Thread title??
10-02-2013 08:38 AM
Mmoroz789 Here are my 18 XD Monsters with Nitto Trail Grapplers 275/70 r18........ 3" lift!



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10-02-2013 08:31 AM
That Jeep Guy
Please do tell

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Originally Posted by onetraveller View Post
So far they have been excellent. The only complaint is they are a little bouncy as the rim is on the narrow side of the E-rated 275 tire's recommended range. But I would expect the same from any tire this size. I'm currently running them at 33 psi.

I was very surprised at how quiet they are given the semi-aggressive tread pattern. No problem in a 6" snow fall we had in May. No problems towing my 7x16 utility trailer. No problems off road so far. We'll see how they do this winter. I usually run studs, but will give these a shot before I change over.

Mike
You mentioned that even though you usually run studs you were going to "give these a shot" before you changed over. Is that still the plan? Keep us informed on their winter performance without studs.

I also saw on another of your posts that you ran them without a lift for some time. Could you expound upon you experience with that: any rubbing other than the expected airdam and sway bar (a jigsaw and two washer fix), did they rub in the fenders on road with a few people or some gear in the back, any rubbing issues on light to moderate trails (relative terms, I know), was the added weight an issue as regards braking and cornering on road, fuel consumption (how much more), etc.?

I'm almost ready to order these in the same size (275/70/18) for an non-lifted 2013 Sahara (at a good price if I order now) - the only other choice available to me right now without locating more arms and legs (I don't have enough) are the BFG T/A KO in 265/65/18 (same price, at the moment).

I had started a thread with these questions but they have yet to be fully answered.
08-02-2013 10:54 PM
cokey4237 35- Toyo at 2 extremes

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08-02-2013 03:11 PM
C-W
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Originally Posted by Ricky Dog View Post
33" Kelly Safari's on 18" Sahara wheels. No plasti-dip plans..
I like the looks of your rig! Do you have a lift ? Did you have to use back spacers with those?
Thanks
08-02-2013 01:35 PM
onetraveller Note that my 275/70r18s measure out at almost 33.5 inches. That is taller then most 33s. Just take the airdam off until you are ready. That's what it rubs on. The rubbing was only one of the reasons I added spacers. I also wanted the clearance to run tire chains in the winter.


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Mike
08-02-2013 09:25 AM
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08-02-2013 08:50 AM
PeteQuad Me too - I was very surprised to hear the second poster had some rub with a 275 with 2" lift. I was honestly hoping to do something like that size without a lift (and without replacing my sahara rims) before springing for the whole shebang (2.5" lift / 35") a few years down the road. And if I liked it well enough maybe just sticking with it and never doing the lift.
08-02-2013 08:09 AM
SirRyan This is a thread I wanna watch. I have the stock sahara's and when this rubber goes out, I plan on going bigger, just not sure of the size. I don't really wanna change the rim.
08-02-2013 04:44 AM
jeepstertim
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Originally Posted by onetraveller View Post
So far they have been excellent. The only complaint is they are a little bouncy as the rim is on the narrow side of the E-rated 275 tire's recommended range. But I would expect the same from any tire this size. I'm currently running them at 33 psi.

I was very surprised at how quiet they are given the semi-aggressive tread pattern. No problem in a 6" snow fall we had in May. No problems towing my 7x16 utility trailer. No problems off road so far. We'll see how they do this winter. I usually run studs, but will give these a shot before I change over.

Mike
What are your thoughts on running those tyres with no lift. I am not going off road anytime soon so on the black stuff will I have problems and what did it do to your MPG?
07-02-2013 05:49 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by mike1158 View Post
so you are 1 pound heavier per corner then my stock Sahara Aluminum wheels with 32x11x18 Grabbers......
granted your tires are larger but....
Look the REAL problem is that it seems like MOST tires offered in these sizes are "E" rated and THAT is when the weight goes through the roof.
If DuraTrac made a 33x12x18 that WASN'T an "E" I bet it would be about 47 pounds.....
At least you and I were smart enough NOT to get "E"s
I believe my setup weighs the same as the stock rubi setup. I didn't want an E tire because I live in a metropolitan area...if I lived somewhere like Colorado, Cali, Utah, etc, I would definitely get stronger ply tires. My main point for getting smaller wheels (my rig is a Sahara as well) was twofold...first, I like the look. Second, the tires cost less. Another bonus is a fat sidewall keeps the wheels safer from damage and improves the ride.
07-02-2013 05:13 PM
mike1158
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post
15x8 Trackers weigh in at 18.5 lbs. Duratracs weigh in (33x12.50x15) at 49lbs. Unsprung weight should not be treated as any other weight. 10lbs of unsprung weigh has quite an effect, and does not equal 10lbs of crap in the cargo area.
so you are 1 pound heavier per corner then my stock Sahara Aluminum wheels with 32x11x18 Grabbers......
granted your tires are larger but....
Look the REAL problem is that it seems like MOST tires offered in these sizes are "E" rated and THAT is when the weight goes through the roof.
If DuraTrac made a 33x12x18 that WASN'T an "E" I bet it would be about 47 pounds.....
At least you and I were smart enough NOT to get "E"s
07-01-2013 02:15 PM
Reece I went in green and dumb. The dealer offered me a wheel and tire upgrade on my stock Sport for $200. He gave me a choice of 17's or 18's, both takeoffs. The 18's had better looking rubber so that's what I went with. I wish now I had taken the 17's - same 32" height but cheaper and more options on tire replacement. I may go to a custom wheel and tire combo when the time comes but that's about 40,000 miles away.
07-01-2013 01:58 PM
aj27526 Sorry for leaving out my information, must of gotten lost in the phone upload.

I am running Nitto Terra Grappler 305/60R18s with the stock 18s. I have been more than pleased with the ride quality both on and off road, braking and handling. Really solid setup
07-01-2013 10:19 AM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by mike1158 View Post
Proof ? specs ? numbers ?
15x8 Trackers weigh in at 18.5 lbs. Duratracs weigh in (33x12.50x15) at 49lbs. Unsprung weight should not be treated as any other weight. 10lbs of unsprung weigh has quite an effect, and does not equal 10lbs of crap in the cargo area.
07-01-2013 10:13 AM
mike1158
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post
15s will weigh a lot less than that, and the tires will weigh less too.
Proof ? specs ? numbers ?
07-01-2013 09:39 AM
onetraveller So far they have been excellent. The only complaint is they are a little bouncy as the rim is on the narrow side of the E-rated 275 tire's recommended range. But I would expect the same from any tire this size. I'm currently running them at 33 psi.

I was very surprised at how quiet they are given the semi-aggressive tread pattern. No problem in a 6" snow fall we had in May. No problems towing my 7x16 utility trailer. No problems off road so far. We'll see how they do this winter. I usually run studs, but will give these a shot before I change over.

Mike
07-01-2013 09:25 AM
Ricky Dog 33" Kelly Safari's on 18" Sahara wheels. No plasti-dip plans..
07-01-2013 09:10 AM
jeepstertim Onetraveller

How do you rate those tyres, any good on tarmac?
07-01-2013 08:39 AM
aj27526
06-30-2013 08:03 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by Vader View Post
Ridiculously heavy, I think they come in around 72lbs.
Thats nearly double the Duratrac in 33x12.50x15 flavor. Nittos are great tires, but heavy as hell.
06-30-2013 08:02 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by mike1158 View Post
save weight? the 18 ALUMINUM Sahara wheels weigh in at about 24#.. I don't know that you're gonna find wheels much lighter then that....
15s will weigh a lot less than that, and the tires will weigh less too.
06-30-2013 07:23 PM
Grinders Dad Another thing to consider is a lot of sidewall flex on tall 15"-16" tires with lower air pressure and ran on road , DD use.
06-30-2013 06:20 PM
mike1158
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Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
By the way, my ATX Ledge Teflon wheels, in 16x8, weight 21 pounds apiece.
...and how much do your 16" tires weigh?
06-30-2013 06:15 PM
mike1158
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Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
18" wheels, 18" tires...trust me, you'll save weight, unless you buy steelies. And frankly, the weight is a minimal thing. The difference between an 18" tire and a 15" tire, cost-wise, is ridiculous.

sometimes I don't understand where guys get their info from..
my 275/65-18 (32x11) General Grabbers weigh 44# and cost $185
a 33x12.5x15 General Grabber weighs 52# and cost $162...
so you ADD 8# per corner to save $23 ? you gonna get new wheels for $23 a piece?
06-30-2013 04:34 PM
ameration
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Originally Posted by Dillacom View Post
I'll sell you mine cheap
I'm not looking to buy a set as I already have them, I just want to see how the larger tires look on the stock 18" Sahara wheels.

06-30-2013 04:28 PM
Dillacom I'll sell you mine cheap
06-30-2013 04:22 PM
ameration any others?
06-25-2013 11:25 AM
Tweak
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