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11-06-2013 12:05 PM
WorkingMan
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Originally Posted by ChicagoComposites View Post
We are in the process of building a CF Jeep hard top. We started an incubator in Chicago to develop new manufacturing jobs and one of our projects is a composite top for a Wrangler. If anyone is interested in hearing more, let me know.
I think you should build a few dozen and donate them to forum members who can then review them and advise the rest of us how much they like them. I'm not interested but would take a soft top from any member who gets one of your donated CF tops.
11-06-2013 11:58 AM
Lowerumble
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Originally Posted by ChicagoComposites View Post
We are in the process of building a CF Jeep hard top. We started an incubator in Chicago to develop new manufacturing jobs and one of our projects is a composite top for a Wrangler. If anyone is interested in hearing more, let me know.

Potential price range? This seems like a pretty big deciding factor if you were looking for a hardtop..
11-06-2013 10:44 AM
2footin coming soon to a retailer near you...
11-06-2013 10:38 AM
donmeca2020
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Originally Posted by 2012Cosmos View Post
Might be a waste of time to you and to all the guys on here who boast of slinging rock and throwing mud, but actually DD their Jeeps 98.9% of the time. But, to each his own. We all like Jeep Wranglers, just different styles and accessories.

This will be a hit with celebs, athletes, and companies (like Rockstar Energy - who has a black Jeep with CF hood, CF fenders, etc) that want to have a show vehicle....or just a vehicle that's different. I actually think a granite or anvil wrangler with a CF hood, CF grill, and CF hardtop would look freaking sweet.
yea, i would have to agree. coming from owning an evo and a honda prior to me buying my sport. i used to love the look of carbon fiber or carbon kevlar. only problem is If there isn't a heavy clearcoat on the carbon fiber. the sun will discolor it and mess it up.

i've owned carbon fiber lips and other accessories and let me tell you its not cheap and its not made to be beaten on .
11-06-2013 10:25 AM
JandS
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Originally Posted by ChicagoComposites View Post
You're wrong on all counts. Really, everything you said about CF is wrong.
I agree, his opinion of CF is likely based on the crap that people buy online and slap on their 90s cars. Most of that stuff is simply poorly constructed fiberglass with a CF layer on top.

True CF is amazingly strong and amazingly light and is usually manufactured with a pre-preg autoclave process. The CF pieces on our Exige are feather light and extremely strong. The front splitter made for Lotus by these guys, weighs less than 7 pounds and will take a tremendous beating.

The problem with CF is that, if actually made correctly, it is extremely expensive. In applications like a Wrangler hard top, it just doesn't make any financial sense - you're probably looking at $7,500 - $10,000 and it might save 50-60 pounds. If you want to save that kind of weight, leave the spare tire and jack at home (probably 100 pounds), switch to a Li-On battery (~40 pounds), take off the doors (maybe 200 pounds on a JKU), take out the backseat (30 pounds), ditch the roll bar padding (~10 pounds), take out the carpet (~10 pounds), find some lightweight wheels (maybe 15 pounds per tire with the bonus of being unsprung weight), etc. My point is that if you want to save weight, there are lots of easy and cheap ways to do it.

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I agree here. But since when does carbon fibre not handle sunlight well? It's used on many sports cars on the roof, and I've never seen it fade or look bad...
If the resin used is not UV resistant or there is not a UV resistant coating, the resin will start to fail and flake. This is usually seen with cheap aftermarket knockoffs.
11-06-2013 10:16 AM
Turchman
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Originally Posted by ChicagoComposites View Post
We are in the process of building a CF Jeep hard top. We started an incubator in Chicago to develop new manufacturing jobs and one of our projects is a composite top for a Wrangler. If anyone is interested in hearing more, let me know.
Keep us in the loop.
11-06-2013 10:10 AM
monkeychow I'm with 2012Cosmos, I think it would look cool in the right application. But you said you don't have a lot of money. Just as a comparison Quadratec has a stock replacement steel hood for $350. RK Sport has a carbon hood for $1000. Got your calculator handy??
11-06-2013 10:04 AM
JK-linux A nice thought, but I'm not sure the weight savings (even if you made it weigh 1oz) would be worth it over the factory top. The factory top, even on a 4-door Unlimited, weighs no more than an adult male. It is only tough to move/remove because it is bulky. Making it super lightweight won't make removing it without a hoist a one person job. Saving ~150lbs won't net you great fuel savings either. I personally like the look of CF, but I wouldn't pay money for a hardtop in CF - rather spend several thousand dollars on factory 1/2 doors.
11-06-2013 10:04 AM
2012Cosmos Might be a waste of time to you and to all the guys on here who boast of slinging rock and throwing mud, but actually DD their Jeeps 98.9% of the time. But, to each his own. We all like Jeep Wranglers, just different styles and accessories.

This will be a hit with celebs, athletes, and companies (like Rockstar Energy - who has a black Jeep with CF hood, CF fenders, etc) that want to have a show vehicle....or just a vehicle that's different. I actually think a granite or anvil wrangler with a CF hood, CF grill, and CF hardtop would look freaking sweet.
11-06-2013 09:55 AM
MacCTD Waste of time on a JK, be right up there with red brake calipers, air intakes and loud exhausts.
11-06-2013 09:45 AM
dawhitesJKU ^because those sport cars are meticulously cleaned up.
11-06-2013 09:33 AM
GEE_911
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Not sure why anyone would want a carbon fiber top. Carbon fiber doesn't handle sunlight very well. It's light, sure, but so is stock top. It only has strength in one direction. Flex it and the carbon strands break real easy. I would think the disadvantages would outweigh any advanatages. Oh, and it is expensive. So you might save 10lbs (and I doubt that). I'm pretty sure if there were some real benefits someone would make them.
I agree here. But since when does carbon fibre not handle sunlight well? It's used on many sports cars on the roof, and I've never seen it fade or look bad...
11-06-2013 09:30 AM
ChicagoComposites We are in the process of building a CF Jeep hard top. We started an incubator in Chicago to develop new manufacturing jobs and one of our projects is a composite top for a Wrangler. If anyone is interested in hearing more, let me know.
11-06-2013 09:27 AM
ChicagoComposites
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Originally Posted by WorkingMan View Post
Not sure why anyone would want a carbon fiber top. Carbon fiber doesn't handle sunlight very well. It's light, sure, but so is stock top. It only has strength in one direction. Flex it and the carbon strands break real easy. I would think the disadvantages would outweigh any advanatages. Oh, and it is expensive. So you might save 10lbs (and I doubt that). I'm pretty sure if there were some real benefits someone would make them.
You're wrong on all counts. Really, everything you said about CF is wrong.
06-25-2013 09:40 PM
Flyfisher76 Interesting concept and it would no doubt work but the cost would be ridiculous. Also CF is not as bad as it used to be as far as flexing goes and can flex in multiple directions without fear of breaking.

I have friends with CF mountain bikes that see a ton of abuse and no issues and my CF road bike is going strong with 3k plus miles of use.

I would think that you could use aluminum and make a lightweight top that is still strong. The main reason bikes are moving towards the CF over Al is that aluminum while lightweight is really stiff while CF is a little lighter but way more compliant.
06-25-2013 09:22 PM
Lowerumble You are searching for a product that you made up in your head...
06-25-2013 11:43 AM
Kennyksu I agree with working man. CF is for road rigs, I'g be really afraid of flexing it, chipping it, etc. It would look really cool, but then again so would 3M tape.
06-25-2013 06:58 AM
WorkingMan Not sure why anyone would want a carbon fiber top. Carbon fiber doesn't handle sunlight very well. It's light, sure, but so is stock top. It only has strength in one direction. Flex it and the carbon strands break real easy. I would think the disadvantages would outweigh any advanatages. Oh, and it is expensive. So you might save 10lbs (and I doubt that). I'm pretty sure if there were some real benefits someone would make them.
06-25-2013 06:25 AM
Abnormal-JK OEM hard top on a 2 door only weighs about 90 pounds not counting the freedom panels, another 30 or so there... not that big a deal...

And no, a 2 door top will not fit a 4 door.
06-25-2013 04:57 AM
michiganadam There is not one on the market. Yes it would be very expensive as theres no mass production.
Light weight? How do you know itll actually be lighter if there is not one on the market. Youll need quite a few layers of carbon fiber to support the windows. Jeeps are heavy. Jeeps will always be heavy.
06-25-2013 01:48 AM
enginesound666
carbon fiber hardtop,need opinion

been searching around for a high quality real carbon fiber hardtop recently,not the 3M sticker(looks badly and cheap,i hate that way).
what u guys thinking abt it:
1,its worth or not? very expensive cost?
2,would like its light weight i though compare with OEM top.and carbonfiber looks coolllllll really.
3,1/2/3 piece,which one is better?
4,im not a rich guy,wanna buy one with my cousin so we can put the carbon hardtop onto both cars(my jeep jk is a 2door,his 4door)sometimes.wonder its fit or not?
look forward to ur suggestion.
thanks alot

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