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09-24-2013 11:31 PM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by ohioviper View Post
I think I would rather replace a set of $500 flares than have metal flares smash my body.
Bingo. All fenders on the market except for OEM do damage to the body when hit. I have seen PSC, Metalcloak, etc slam a rock, and while they themselves were ok, they tweaked the fenders. I'd never run anything but OEM, but that's me. If you are just doing it for looks and dont wheel in a place where they might get hit/ripped off, then by all means.
09-24-2013 08:48 PM
fergusoneddie I've heard really good things about the ACE flares also. I'm planning on putting them on mine, because I can paint them white. Not so sure how the BW would take paint.

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09-24-2013 07:20 PM
appleman46
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Originally Posted by Beastmaster View Post
Ace wide tubular (flat) fenders are the way I went. They are uber tough and have a lifetime warranty. I smash them up on a trail run and I get free replacements (as long as I pay shipping)

Hey Beastmaster,

Any way you could take a couple head on shots, specifically around where the fenders and bumper meet up. I like how the edge of the stock fenders meet up perfectly with the edge of my bumper, but I really love the Ace fenders.

Thanks in advance,
Dan
09-24-2013 06:52 PM
GIWrangler
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Originally Posted by Beastmaster View Post
Ace wide tubular (flat) fenders are the way I went. They are uber tough and have a lifetime warranty. I smash them up on a trail run and I get free replacements (as long as I pay shipping)

What did you do about relocating the parking light/turn signal that was on the stock fender?
06-26-2013 10:27 PM
Nano
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Originally Posted by ohioviper View Post
In my mind I visualize sliding into a tree on a off camber and the impact pushing those metal flares into the body panels.The body panels are weaker than the flares and it wont end well. With the plastic they should fold or pop off allowing the tire to protect the body.
If the MetalCloak flares attached directly to the sheet metal, like the Bushwacker flares do, then that could be the case. Luckily MetalCloak has designed the flares to attach to 3/16-1/4 inch reinforced steel fender or corner guard.

I've had the Bushwackers and I have the MetalCloaks. I've experienced the Bushwackers allowing the metal body to be damaged. I've seen the MetalCloaks support nearly an entire Jeep w/ the only damage being to the powdercoat.

Like I said, the force that would cause the MetalCloak flares to damage the body of a Jeep would do a lot more damage to a Jeep with plastic fenders, and it wouldn't be only the fender that need replacing.

Heh, I feel like a spokes-person for MC. I've experience both an I'm just offering the input from that experience.
06-26-2013 06:38 PM
cheap4tw I have the original ACE fenders and they are holding up well. A little surface rust here and there but going to pull them, clean them up, and re-bedline once I get a few days off.
06-26-2013 06:08 PM
whiteyjfm There is no right or wrong between these 2. It all depends on what you want to do with them and what look you want. Both got pro's and cons.

We got the BW flat flares and like them. I like the ACE ones too, maybe one day, but I don't need them now. And yes,we do use our Jeep off road, a lot.
06-26-2013 04:23 PM
ohioviper In my mind I visualize sliding into a tree on a off camber and the impact pushing those metal flares into the body panels.The body panels are weaker than the flares and it wont end well. With the plastic they should fold or pop off allowing the tire to protect the body.
06-26-2013 03:40 PM
Nano
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Originally Posted by ohioviper View Post
I think I would rather replace a set of $500 flares than have metal flares smash my body.
MetalCloak flares don't smash your body for anything that wouldn't smash your body and axle with plastic flares.

MetalCloak doesn't use sheet metal.

My TJs MetalCloak attach to the MetalCloak Fender which is made out of 1/4" or so steel, not sheet metal like stock. This fender also attaches to the firewall and the metal grill (on a TJ). In the rear the flares are attached to the 1/4 steel corner guards.

I haven't received my JKs MetalCloaks yet, so I don't know the installation process or how and what they attach to.

I've seen a JK roll off camber slamming on to its MetalCloak flares. Nearly the whole weight of the Jeep was supported by the flares. When it was rolled back on to its wheels, the only damage was to the powdercoating of the flares where they touched the rocks/ground. No body damage. Had they had plastic flares, there most likely would have been body damage.

The cost to fix the MC flare damage: the price of a rattle-can. The estimated cost to fix the plastic flares: the cost of the plastic flares plus any body/axle/wheel damage. I think I would rather buy a rattle-can, than a set of $500 flares.
06-26-2013 02:48 PM
ohioviper I think I would rather replace a set of $500 flares than have metal flares smash my body.
06-26-2013 02:16 PM
Nano I used to have the Bushwacker Flat Flares on my JT. There are a could drawbacks for me: one, they fade; two, plastic doesn't hold up. If you are fine with the fading and don't put yourself in OffRoad situations where tire articulation or earth/rocks/trees will touch the Buchwaskers, then continue to consider them, otherwise, don't bother. I had my tires articulate so much that they popped the Bushwacker Flat Fenders off and the tires were sliced up by the metal TJ fenders.

I have since installed some MetalCloak Fender Flares and Rear Corner Guards on my TJ. I also have a set of those and bumpers on order for my JK. They aren't cheap, but I really like the design, materials and I don't want to buy Flares again. Kinda like "Do it right the first time and you won't have to do it again". I learned that with the TJ and used that knowledge for my JK.

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Originally Posted by Silverton34 View Post
I have the Bushwacker flats and really like them. I don't care for the pocket flares but it is purely opinion. I do wheel my Jeep so really need to stay with plastic flares as I tend to get into too tight spaces.
MetalCloak flares quickly/easily detach.

I've seen a JK roll off camber and the MetalCloak flares supported nearly the entire Jeep without denting the body where the flares attached. The only damage was to the Powdercoating on the edge of the flares.
06-26-2013 11:28 AM
RemoJK
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Originally Posted by Beastmaster View Post
lifetime warranty. I smash them up on a trail run and I get free replacements (as long as I pay shipping)attachmentid=237056&d=1366159256[/IMG]
That's a deal. BW would even sell me their parts to connect my flare back to the fender, Or even a single flare cause one of mine is creased up good. Pretty much told me to buy new ones
06-26-2013 11:22 AM
Beastmaster Ace wide tubular (flat) fenders are the way I went. They are uber tough and have a lifetime warranty. I smash them up on a trail run and I get free replacements (as long as I pay shipping)

06-26-2013 10:42 AM
Silverton34 I have the Bushwacker flats and really like them. I don't care for the pocket flares but it is purely opinion. I do wheel my Jeep so really need to stay with plastic flares as I tend to get into too tight spaces.
06-26-2013 10:31 AM
MAG00 I am curious to see others opinions on this as well. I have been thinking about these two options. However, with the deal on Amazon posted in another thread those may be a good deal.

Also, I have read before about if you hit hard on a metal fender it can damage your body where as a plastic one would take the brunt of damage before damaging the body. Thoughts on this anyone?
06-26-2013 09:57 AM
landi jeep look at the river raider flatties, they are around 1000, but seem worth it. im saving up for those.
06-26-2013 09:37 AM
RemoJK I'd go with ACE, I have the bushwackers and my buddy has the ace flares but his are the narrow ones. My bushwackers are nice and all but real flimsy and I am also not the biggest fan of how they are held on to your jeep. I knocked my Passenger side flares off twice now, Luckily they were able to be put back on with a couple of random screws here and there.
I got my BW on sale for 400 but lately i see them going for $500, so it's either spend $500 on plastic or an extra 100-200 dollars and get legit flares (I wish I did). My buddy even stood on his ACE flares, I wouldn't try it with the BW's haha
06-26-2013 08:58 AM
Thegame
Bushwacker flats vs ace wide flat fenders

Does anyone have any pics of either of these fenders on their jeeps? I can't seem to find many pics or info on the ace wide flats. I think I have narrowed it down to these two choices but some pics would really help. Thanks

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