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07-28-2013 03:45 AM
DesertRat78
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Originally Posted by SeaRat View Post
Ive always had manuals in my Jeeps, but since I am 47% disabled Vet. I cant shift as well as i used to. So now i have too go with an automatic. It is nice not shifting thou.
Its great that you can drive without hurting.
07-02-2013 07:55 PM
lindel
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Originally Posted by Blastek View Post

He was right to... Synchronized transmissions should not be shifted with the clutch engaged. Just because it doesn't grind does not mean you're not doing damage, unless you matched the change 100%.

When you shift without the clutch, you are transmitting a much higher load through the synchronizer than what they are designed for. Especially if you sit at the gate tugging at the shifter waiting for the teeth to pair. Clutch-less shifting should only be done on crashboxes, or by people who want to replace their synchros a lot earlier than everyone else.
You should match the engine speed with the speed of the gear you're trying to shift into. Very doable with practice, and no more damaging to the transmission than using the clutch. Truck drivers do it all the time.

It's a good thing to learn and get proficient at, in case you ever have a clutch related issue.
07-02-2013 06:38 PM
GoldenSahara00
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Originally Posted by 91yjMonster View Post
Agreed. Except how does an auto give you more control backing off of a steep climb? wouldn't you have to pop it out of gear really quick?

Nope. The torque converter is completely fluid, so in gear, I can let it coast just for a split second then put it into 1st, or if it's steep enough, just let off the throttle. It allows you to very slowly back down until it levels out enough for the power at idle to stop you. So I don't have to actually reverse or break down it, It's basically using engine breaking but backwards if that makes sense. I don't know if an auto w/ out a tq converter can do this. Torque converter also gives a lot more power at low speeds so it makes up for crappy gears/big tires offroad a bit.
07-02-2013 06:22 PM
91yjMonster
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 View Post

And that's personally preference, which is why they make both. No one is going to force anyone to drive a way they don't want to, lol. I like the control I have on the rocks and backing off of steep climbs with an auto.
Agreed. Except how does an auto give you more control backing off of a steep climb? wouldn't you have to pop it out of gear really quick?
07-02-2013 06:09 PM
GoldenSahara00
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Originally Posted by 91yjMonster View Post
I would rather have manual even on extreme trails, but that's just me.
And that's personally preference, which is why they make both. No one is going to force anyone to drive a way they don't want to, lol. I like the control I have on the rocks and backing off of steep climbs with an auto.
07-02-2013 04:31 PM
91yjMonster
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 View Post

The trails we run everyone wishes they had an auto.
I would rather have manual even on extreme trails, but that's just me.
07-02-2013 03:58 PM
JeepGirl94
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Originally Posted by Blastek View Post

He was right to... Synchronized transmissions should not be shifted with the clutch engaged. Just because it doesn't grind does not mean you're not doing damage, unless you matched the change 100%.

When you shift without the clutch, you are transmitting a much higher load through the synchronizer than what they are designed for. Especially if you sit at the gate tugging at the shifter waiting for the teeth to pair. Clutch-less shifting should only be done on crashboxes, or by people who want to replace their synchros a lot earlier than everyone else.
I think I'll stick to using the clutch! I haven't shifted without since hubby gave me hell.
07-02-2013 03:45 PM
Blastek
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Originally Posted by JeepGirl94 View Post
Good to know!! Hubby gave me hell for doing it lol!! I was like hey look what I can do and he's like don't ever do that again lol
He was right to... Synchronized transmissions should not be shifted with the clutch engaged. Just because it doesn't grind does not mean you're not doing damage, unless you matched the change 100%.

When you shift without the clutch, you are transmitting a much higher load through the synchronizer than what they are designed for. Especially if you sit at the gate tugging at the shifter waiting for the teeth to pair. Clutch-less shifting should only be done on crashboxes, or by people who want to replace their synchros a lot earlier than everyone else.
07-02-2013 03:25 PM
GoldenSahara00
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Originally Posted by 91yjMonster View Post
Why does everyone say manual is hard to use offroad? it really isn't that hard. I drive my yj with a five speed as a daily driver and a trail monster.
The trails we run everyone wishes they had an auto.
07-02-2013 02:53 PM
91yjMonster Why does everyone say manual is hard to use offroad? it really isn't that hard. I drive my yj with a five speed as a daily driver and a trail monster.
07-02-2013 02:13 PM
JeepGirl94
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Originally Posted by n00g7 View Post

Not as bad as it for me to move my boot off the rocker panel when the doors are off.

Nah, if you're in the lower RPMs and have a little practice it's no different than regular shifting because the synchro prevents you from grinding.
Good to know!! Hubby gave me hell for doing it lol!! I was like hey look what I can do and he's like don't ever do that again lol
07-02-2013 01:59 PM
n00g7
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Originally Posted by JeepGirl94 View Post
Sorry meant transmission

Not as bad as it for me to move my boot off the rocker panel when the doors are off.



Nah, if you're in the lower RPMs and have a little practice it's no different than regular shifting because the synchro prevents you from grinding.
07-02-2013 01:59 PM
mackdj1 I say manual all the way!!!!!! Unless you want an automatic.....Then auto all the way!!!!!!
07-02-2013 01:57 PM
JeepGirl94
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Originally Posted by lindel View Post

Clutch isn't involved. As far as it knows, nothing has changed.

Clutch wear happens when you engage or release it, or when the engine overpowers the clutch's ability to hold.
Sorry meant transmission
07-01-2013 04:04 PM
Cterrell2 It definitely depends on what you plan on doing with the vehicle and your driving habits.
07-01-2013 02:50 PM
n00g7
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Originally Posted by KittyPrawn View Post
Is that really a big deal? I'm a push over, I will do almost anything I can for someone. But, telling people no to driving my vehicle is easy peasy.

And apparently people still ask, since then you have to ask them of they drive stick. What if you get someone asking and they can drive stick? I'm the only person in my family/friends who can't, so that wouldn't even work. It just seems like weird logic.
Then I tell them no. It's not like I don't let anyone drive my car, it's just that in college if you let one person borrow it, then EVERYONE comes to you to borrow your car. The manual tranny fended off 99.9% of the people who I wouldn't let borrow my car even if it was an automatic. Guaranteed I would have been "a dick" for only letting certain people drive (people who I knew would pay for wrecking it) if it was an automatic.
07-01-2013 02:37 PM
KittyPrawn
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Originally Posted by n00g7 View Post

Correct.
Is that really a big deal? I'm a push over, I will do almost anything I can for someone. But, telling people no to driving my vehicle is easy peasy.

And apparently people still ask, since then you have to ask them of they drive stick. What if you get someone asking and they can drive stick? I'm the only person in my family/friends who can't, so that wouldn't even work. It just seems like weird logic.
07-01-2013 12:58 PM
Walkingstick
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Originally Posted by n00g7 View Post
You can also shift without using the clutch if you're not a huge noob. All you need it for is 1st.
X2 just need proper Rpm.
07-01-2013 11:00 AM
n00g7
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Originally Posted by KittyPrawn View Post
I guess I don't understand this issue of getting a manual so people can't drive your car. I've had an auto my entire life. No one has just driven my car without my permission. A manual would just mean I wouldn't have to say no to people?

Correct.
07-01-2013 10:30 AM
KittyPrawn I guess I don't understand this issue of getting a manual so people can't drive your car. I've had an auto my entire life. No one has just driven my car without my permission. A manual would just mean I wouldn't have to say no to people?
07-01-2013 07:52 AM
jickey
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Originally Posted by n00g7 View Post
It's best to deny access on a technicality before actuality. Nobody ever drove mine in college because yuppies can't row through the gears. Though most importantly it provided an opportunity to instruct numerous girls on the finer points of operating a manual which oft segued into shared learning experiences in the back seat.

If you'd rather sip your cappuccino, by all means, get the auto.
I'm 6'2" tall...I can't even sit in the back seat of my TJ, much less participate in any of those "learning experiences" you speak of <wink wink nudge nudge>

For me, manual. Why? 'Cause that's what I wanted. Seems more like a Jeep to me. There are times I'd rather have an auto, but all in all, I love my manual.
07-01-2013 07:04 AM
GoldenSahara00 I'll play... People who drive manuals seem to think it makes them more manly, more "legit", and have more control. I find an auto is more relaxing to drive, no one knows if it's a manual or auto unless you tell them or they look, it's a real jeep either way, and the auto is actually better and gives you more finese control offroad. To each his own.
07-01-2013 06:55 AM
lindel
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Originally Posted by JeepGirl94 View Post

Isn't that bad for the clutch?? I use to do that and got hell for it!!
Clutch isn't involved. As far as it knows, nothing has changed.

Clutch wear happens when you engage or release it, or when the engine overpowers the clutch's ability to hold.
07-01-2013 05:44 AM
JeepGirl94
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Originally Posted by n00g7 View Post
You can also shift without using the clutch if you're not a huge noob. All you need it for is 1st.
Isn't that bad for the clutch?? I use to do that and got hell for it!!
07-01-2013 12:40 AM
n00g7
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Originally Posted by BagerX2 View Post
Ive heard that, but never done it in a car. Did it on my zx636 a lot.
More or less the same thing. Lay off the gas, pull out of gear, as the RPM falls, punch it into the next gear, and then lay into the gas.

For downshifting you lay off the gas, pull out of gear, blip the throttle, stuff it into the appropriate gear based on RPM and speed.

e-z-p-z.
07-01-2013 12:01 AM
BagerX2
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Originally Posted by n00g7
You can also shift without using the clutch if you're not a huge noob. All you need it for is 1st.
Ive heard that, but never done it in a car. Did it on my zx636 a lot.
06-30-2013 11:59 PM
BagerX2
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Originally Posted by Walkingstick

I said Naggy women because my friends haven't complained about the heat cause we're all southerners.
So am I and so are my friends. We have lived here all a our lives and they still cant take the heat.
06-30-2013 09:05 PM
n00g7 You can also shift without using the clutch if you're not a huge noob. All you need it for is 1st.
06-30-2013 08:28 PM
Gunz n tractorz I like manual bc not everyone can jump on and drive it.
06-30-2013 08:25 PM
Gunz n tractorz
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Originally Posted by KittyPrawn
Between playing with the radio, eating, talking on the phone, and brushing my hair, I don't have a free hand for a stick shift or a free leg for the clutch. Left leg is for steering!

Auto.
You don't need a free hand just keep the skinny pedal down it'll go a little faster and buy you a little time. It'll go or it'll blow
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