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06-27-2013 04:24 PM
Mattk11
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Thanks Corey...

Eventually, I will end up replacing everything. Head unit, speakers, sub, everything. However, I honestly, highly doubt I'm going to be able to do it all at the same time with my work schedule and everything. Probably going to end up being head unit one day, front speakers another day, rear speakers another, and sub another, etc. etc. So that was the main reason for asking about the tweeters being cross'd, or if I would just need to cap them, which is no big deal. I have about $2K in stereo equipment that I yanked out of my Super Duty a few years back. Just debating how much I really want to throw in the Rubi. I think it would be WAY overkill in that thing (and not really a thought for the vehicle) to install all 4 JL 12w6v2, 2 JL 10w6v2, 10 1000/1's amps and 1 450/4 amp. I think that would be REALLY overkill for a Rubi!
Man if you have all this I would sell some and use the rest in my Jeep, no doubt about it. To me a Jeep is all about summer with the top off and music loud.

Sell those woofers, keep a 1000/1 amp and the 450/4 amp, get some components for up front, some coaxes for the sound bar and at least one 10" shallow mount for under your front seat, two if you want to take advantage of that 1000/1 amp. That would be a killer system. If you don't want to go through all the work for custom under seat boxes, build a small box for the back and use those 10s you have.

For me, keeping steering wheel controls was a must so I needed the PAC.

Most everyone would think my system is overkill, but I don't think so. Is there really any such thing as overkill?
06-27-2013 12:03 PM
CnK Yeah no kidding. In my `03 Super Duty, I literally had to make the front and rear bench seats the entire box, and then just upholster the box itself. It was a LOT of hard work, but the payout was AWESOME! Couldn't take the top of the truck, or the doors off (well, I guess I could have), so it made it a lot easier with the windows up to blast it and not have to worry about it. And when I rolled the windows down, talk about pissing people off. Especially the guy 4 cars up whose rear view mirror is shaking almost as much as mine was in the truck. And the people I rolled up next to with their windows down, watching them roll them up, then immediately right back down again, because it made it so much worse in their vehicle with the windows up was also pretty funny!
06-27-2013 12:00 PM
CoreyZ I dont even think you'd have room for it! lol
06-27-2013 11:06 AM
CnK Thanks Corey...

Eventually, I will end up replacing everything. Head unit, speakers, sub, everything. However, I honestly, highly doubt I'm going to be able to do it all at the same time with my work schedule and everything. Probably going to end up being head unit one day, front speakers another day, rear speakers another, and sub another, etc. etc. So that was the main reason for asking about the tweeters being cross'd, or if I would just need to cap them, which is no big deal. I have about $2K in stereo equipment that I yanked out of my Super Duty a few years back. Just debating how much I really want to throw in the Rubi. I think it would be WAY overkill in that thing (and not really a thought for the vehicle) to install all 4 JL 12w6v2, 2 JL 10w6v2, 10 1000/1's amps and 1 450/4 amp. I think that would be REALLY overkill for a Rubi!
06-27-2013 10:57 AM
CoreyZ Matt is correct, except I believe from the wire layouts that the tombstone tweeters are not crossed over at the amp, but are a straight through wire from the head unit to the speakers.

Also... I agree... either rip it all out, or deal with a piece meal system. I prefer the rip it all out approach. Definitely review the other posts in this forum on what we all did and make some good choices on equipment, placement and learn from our mistakes.

Oh.. and the Canbus integration is really only good if you want to retain factory steering wheel controls. Otherwise, just find a constant/switched power, ground, illumination and make your own harness and save the cash.
06-27-2013 10:33 AM
CnK Thanks for the info, Matt. And there is NO apology needed. I have done some research, but it seems like most of the info I was finding was from 2012-2013 for aftermarket stereo stuff.

I know that Chrysler loves changing stuff as often as every year, so I didn't know if there was anything different with the `10 vs. '12+. I appreciate all the help and suggestions.
06-27-2013 09:37 AM
Mattk11 Here's the deal, you are dealing with a CanBus that can either be completely bypassed or can be adapted with a PAC adapter. There's no amount a negotiation, this is fact.

You will need to make a decision. Scrap the whole price of crap factory system and go aftermarket or use a CanBus adapter and half-ass it. I guess there is a 3rd option of keeping the factory system and running aftermarket AFTER the amp using a summing device like a Bit10 or Clean Sweep but that is more expensive than pulling everything and going aftermarket.

I apologize if I am coming across a little harsh but I would suggest you dig into this site and others like it to do some reading and research. I did a months worth of it before my Jeep arrived. I quickly came to the conclusion that CanBus was the devil so I decided to change everything out. My first iteration which was infinitely better than factory was around $1000 installed. With my newest upgrades I have about $1500 in my sound system and it sound phenomenal to me.
06-26-2013 05:51 PM
CnK
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1) they are crossed over in the amp that sits under your dash closest to your drivers side door.
Okay. And the amp itself is hi-level (speaker wire) in/out, correct!?

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2) it is a dual 2 ohm sub that takes two channels from the Infinity/Alpine amp, one for each coil.
Okay. That's kinda what I though, because when I fade the stock F/R, it still works.

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3) the sat antenna is mounted above the passenger seat in front of the sound bar.
That makes sense. I wouldn't THINK it would be able to adapt to the car antenna.

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4) don't know what you mean by pod or bar. But the sound bar speakers are 6 1/2 full range speakers that sound like garbage. The openings will fit up to 6 3/4" coax speakers with little adaptation.
From what I was researching, I guess earlier years there was a cutoff point to where it was a full speaker "bar", vs. each speaker being housed in a "pod".

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5) you are dealing with a sound system that is integrated with the CanBus which makes changing out certain parts a pain because the entire system is integrated. You will need a RP4-CH11 PAC adapter or similar to run an aftermarket head unit with the factory amp and speakers. You loose the ability to fade if you do. Personally I'd scrap all the factory crap and put in real speakers and amps, you won't be happy until you do.
If I decide to NOT use the Canbus adapter, I can still just use the aftermarket speaker wire harness adapters like I did in my `98 Ram for now, correct!? The Ram has an Infinity stock amp built in as well, and just using the adapters still worked. The only different was the tweeters in the Ram were cap'd at the front door speakers, instead of the amp itself.
06-26-2013 04:30 PM
Mattk11
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Hey everyone.

Good afternoon. It's about time to upgrade the stock 6 disc factory in-dash unit. But I have a couple questions before I do, and feedback would be helpful and appreciated.

I am pulling the Kenwood KDC-BT955HD head unit out of my truck and want to throw it in the jeep.

1) The tombstone tweeters. I take it those are crossed over within the stereo to allow the bass to blow them out? I can put a cap on each one, that's no problem. Just want to verify.

2) The stock alpine sub in the very back. That is ran high-level I take it from just the stereo speaker leads for front and rear? Looks like an 8"?

3) The built in SAT radio. Is that feed strictly from the fender fed antenna? If so, I take it the built in stereo has some sort of built in adapter/decoder?

4) Since I haven't gotten in to it yet, does anyone know if the hi-mount speakers in the `10 Rubi's are pod or a bar? I have seen other posts that it makes a difference if it will fit 5 1/4 or 6 1/2.

5) Anything else anyone can think of that I may need to watch out for!?

Thank you everyone. Once I do get in to this install, I will definitely take pictures and whatnot and post them up.
1) they are crossed over in the amp that sits under your dash closest to your drivers side door.

2) it is a dual 2 ohm sub that takes two channels from the Infinity/Alpine amp, one for each coil.

3) the sat antenna is mounted above the passenger seat in front of the sound bar.

4) don't know what you mean by pod or bar. But the sound bar speakers are 6 1/2 full range speakers that sound like garbage. The openings will fit up to 6 3/4" coax speakers with little adaptation.

5) you are dealing with a sound system that is integrated with the CanBus which makes changing out certain parts a pain because the entire system is integrated. You will need a RP4-CH11 PAC adapter or similar to run an aftermarket head unit with the factory amp and speakers. You loose the ability to fade if you do. Personally I'd scrap all the factory crap and put in real speakers and amps, you won't be happy until you do.
06-26-2013 02:43 PM
CnK
2010 Rubicon Stereo Upgrade

Hey everyone.

Good afternoon. It's about time to upgrade the stock 6 disc factory in-dash unit. But I have a couple questions before I do, and feedback would be helpful and appreciated.

I am pulling the Kenwood KDC-BT955HD head unit out of my truck and want to throw it in the jeep.

1) The tombstone tweeters. I take it those are crossed over within the stereo to allow the bass to blow them out? I can put a cap on each one, that's no problem. Just want to verify.

2) The stock alpine sub in the very back. That is ran high-level I take it from just the stereo speaker leads for front and rear? Looks like an 8"?

3) The built in SAT radio. Is that feed strictly from the fender fed antenna? If so, I take it the built in stereo has some sort of built in adapter/decoder?

4) Since I haven't gotten in to it yet, does anyone know if the hi-mount speakers in the `10 Rubi's are pod or a bar? I have seen other posts that it makes a difference if it will fit 5 1/4 or 6 1/2.

5) Anything else anyone can think of that I may need to watch out for!?


Thank you everyone. Once I do get in to this install, I will definitely take pictures and whatnot and post them up.

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