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11-14-2014 07:29 PM
cdeslandes I painted mine when I removed the bumper to install the winch. I also added a right rear tow hook. And a shackle at the tow hitch. All are painted red.
11-14-2014 10:54 AM
Freedom JK I spray painted my tow hooks without removing them and it came out looking good. I masked off everything very well using trash bags then gave them a light coat of primer. Once that was dry, I gave them 2 coats of Rustoleum Colonial Red spray paint. For the front tow hooks, after I unmasked everything, I sprayed a little paint into the cap of the paint can then used a very small art type paint brush to paint the hooks a little better where they went down into the hole in the bumper. I also put a little paint under the curved portion of the hooks. All visible parts of the tow hooks are painted. The whole process took maybe 45 minutes, and part of that time was just to let the primer dry. If they get a little chipped or scratched, who cares. I can just touch them up with the little pain brush. I already had some painters tape and trash bags, so I just had to buy a little paint brush and the spray paint which cost me around $4.







12-29-2013 08:36 PM
Yoodie
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Originally Posted by PrecisionPowder View Post
Best way to find a local shop is ask your local Harley shop, try google, even facebook will bring up local coaters. You could always ship the parts somewhere as well, I get a lot of parts shipped in to me. Questions to depend specifically on what parts you plan to have coated
Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.
12-29-2013 04:26 PM
Ghost1972
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Originally Posted by PrecisionPowder View Post

Ok great, if you don't want to pay it then don't. I wouldn't say the price is high, $100 for 2 coats per shackle. If you wanted to be cheap and cut costs stick with a simple one coat job on it. That would put the pair around $70. If you are going to do something though, do it one once and do it right. To you it might be a lot to others it might not. If someone wants it and someone wants something durable they are going to pay for it. If someone wants something cheap that is going to flake off and get wrecked the first time they will just spray paint it.

To you $100 is high, but to the person doing all the work, paying for materials, paying for the utilities to run the oven, the media to blast it, etc. $100 is pretty in expensive for a job that will take 2.5-3 hours to do from start to complete with two coats.

Moral of the story is if you want to be cheap and don't mind redoing them every few months spray paint them. I personally would rather do it once and have them look good all the time.
It's funny how heated everyone gets on these forums. The forum provides many answers to various questions (ie how to remove the stock bumper--very simple actually)--it's just a matter of doing a search (yes, being fairly new to the forum, I figured out that there are few topics unaddressed at some point--just gotta look for them).

Nonetheless, nobody's right or wrong on paint vs powder. I recently had some bumper parts powder coated here in Central FL, for the simple durability of powder (as its a polymer and is in-fact more durable as--in essence melted onto the metal). Personally, I would always go the powder coat route as my first option.

However... It is in fact a little more expensive. But it is more work too. The items get blasted down to bare metal, then as Precision pointed out, they get (or ought to get) multiple coats. Then they get baked in an oven at 400 degrees etc for X time depending on thickness of the metal, etc. I don't know squat about powder coating though, so bear with me.

The "truth" is that $100 is very reasonable for powder coating two hooks with prep and proper coating. (There's a reason ALL major manufacturers powder coat their metal components vs painting (bumpers, protective armor under the jeep, running boards, rails, etc. but the cost of powder coating is cheaper based on volume commitment). The "decision" is weather YOU choose or can afford to spend that money vs rattle-canning. Neither is right or wrong--just a matter of what you want to spend. No big deal. Few of us have so much money that $$ doesn't get considered.

IMO, rattle canning is fine if purely for cosmetics. Aren't the hooks factory powder coated anyways? Either way, if you use the hooks for recovery purposes, it'll likely beat the heck out of paint. You will likely beat the heck out of pouter coat as well, but it WILL hold up much better than paint.

No need to blast me on a response--I'm just offering my perspective. Plus, it's raining out and it makes me sad...
12-29-2013 01:22 PM
PrecisionPowder
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Originally Posted by Plasticpirogue View Post
I think someone is getting a little hot under the collar on this topic. OK, we will agree that you know your stuff, and that if done correctly with the best materials it's a durable coating, but the fact still remains that paying $100 to simply change the color (a cosmetic mod) is a bit stiff.

Ok great, if you don't want to pay it then don't. I wouldn't say the price is high, $100 for 2 coats per shackle. If you wanted to be cheap and cut costs stick with a simple one coat job on it. That would put the pair around $70. If you are going to do something though, do it one once and do it right. To you it might be a lot to others it might not. If someone wants it and someone wants something durable they are going to pay for it. If someone wants something cheap that is going to flake off and get wrecked the first time they will just spray paint it.

To you $100 is high, but to the person doing all the work, paying for materials, paying for the utilities to run the oven, the media to blast it, etc. $100 is pretty in expensive for a job that will take 2.5-3 hours to do from start to complete with two coats.

Moral of the story is if you want to be cheap and don't mind redoing them every few months spray paint them. I personally would rather do it once and have them look good all the time.
12-29-2013 11:54 AM
Plasticpirogue
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Originally Posted by PrecisionPowder View Post
im not sure if you realize that you have no idea what you are you talking about please explain to me how there is metal on metal wear when something is powder coated? it would be a metal on plastic wear if someone actually used a hood on it, most people would use a strap which will cause no wear problems at all.

on top of that, you do realize almost all industrial equipment is powder coated now and not painted because of how tough it is. any legit shop will coat these 3-4mils on a super durable color plus a super durable clear coat.

if you also read my statement it would be $100 to powder coat both including prep work and 2 colors, which depending on the coater could be 4 separate coats.

are you aware that there are 4 different types of coatings? has a specific use, based on application. some are more durable than others and they were designed for that reason. id suggest before you start mouthing off about things you have no CORRECT information about that you do some research so you sound slightly believable and like you have done this before.

just so you dont come back with some other half baked response here are a few chains i did out of a large batch that i did. these two are for myself but the rest are used on flat beds where they sown into bed strap and constantly thrown around, bounced off metal, and hooked onto metal bed rails where they hold down what ever the truck driver is securing. be that pallets of shingles or lifts of lumber. i do every single set of straps they use and every single ratchet assembly they have. they get used 6 days a week and i have never had one chip, wear, or flake. iv never had to redo even a single one. considering those see more use in 6 months than any tow hook or dring on a jeep would see in a life time i think its safe to say they will be more than ok.

I think someone is getting a little hot under the collar on this topic. OK, we will agree that you know your stuff, and that if done correctly with the best materials it's a durable coating, but the fact still remains that paying $100 to simply change the color (a cosmetic mod) is a bit stiff.
12-29-2013 11:35 AM
PrecisionPowder
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Originally Posted by Yoodie View Post
Hey precision, thanks for the info. Any suggestions on how to find a shop that will do good work? Maybe some basic questions to ask? Thanks

Best way to find a local shop is ask your local Harley shop, try google, even facebook will bring up local coaters. You could always ship the parts somewhere as well, I get a lot of parts shipped in to me.

Questions to depend specifically on what parts you plan to have coated
12-24-2013 12:08 PM
Yoodie
Finding a good shop

Hey precision, thanks for the info. Any suggestions on how to find a shop that will do good work? Maybe some basic questions to ask? Thanks
07-01-2013 01:10 AM
PrecisionPowder
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Originally Posted by Vin View Post
Exactly. Were talking about a tow hook. If you're using it with a d ring or hook there's no way the powder coating is going to hold up to the metal on metal wear of a d ring or hook.

$100 to powder coat a $25 tow hook?

im not sure if you realize that you have no idea what you are you talking about please explain to me how there is metal on metal wear when something is powder coated? it would be a metal on plastic wear if someone actually used a hood on it, most people would use a strap which will cause no wear problems at all.

on top of that, you do realize almost all industrial equipment is powder coated now and not painted because of how tough it is. any legit shop will coat these 3-4mils on a super durable color plus a super durable clear coat.

if you also read my statement it would be $100 to powder coat both including prep work and 2 colors, which depending on the coater could be 4 separate coats.

are you aware that there are 4 different types of coatings? has a specific use, based on application. some are more durable than others and they were designed for that reason. id suggest before you start mouthing off about things you have no CORRECT information about that you do some research so you sound slightly believable and like you have done this before.

just so you dont come back with some other half baked response here are a few chains i did out of a large batch that i did. these two are for myself but the rest are used on flat beds where they sown into bed strap and constantly thrown around, bounced off metal, and hooked onto metal bed rails where they hold down what ever the truck driver is securing. be that pallets of shingles or lifts of lumber. i do every single set of straps they use and every single ratchet assembly they have. they get used 6 days a week and i have never had one chip, wear, or flake. iv never had to redo even a single one. considering those see more use in 6 months than any tow hook or dring on a jeep would see in a life time i think its safe to say they will be more than ok.

07-01-2013 12:01 AM
4X4BIKEPED @Precision

Point taken!
06-30-2013 10:35 AM
PrecisionPowder
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@Preciscion.

My point exactly!

Still, $100 seems a little steep.
not when you account for time to strip, mask, prebake, and do two coats. at a good custom shop. not everyone is going to have those colors in stock in which case you would see a special order powder price. any good shop charges for blasting anywhere from $50-$80 an hour min of 1 hour.

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Originally Posted by Vin View Post
Exactly. Were talking about a tow hook. If you're using it with a d ring or hook there's no way the powder coating is going to hold up to the metal on metal wear of a d ring or hook.

$100 to powder coat a $25 tow hook?

thats very untrue.
06-30-2013 09:02 AM
Vin
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Originally Posted by 4X4BIKEPED View Post
@vin


BTW, I always touch up my tow receivers with Rustoleum.

An easy but temporary fix.

But they are down and out of sight for the most part.

pax,

John L.
Exactly. Were talking about a tow hook. If you're using it with a d ring or hook there's no way the powder coating is going to hold up to the metal on metal wear of a d ring or hook.

$100 to powder coat a $25 tow hook?
06-30-2013 03:16 AM
4X4BIKEPED @Preciscion.

My point exactly!

Still, $100 seems a little steep.
06-29-2013 08:55 PM
PrecisionPowder i powder coat for a living, you should absolutely powder coat them and not paint them. paint is awful and it will scrape off at first use. what ever shop you go to good to a good one. make sure they know what they are doing and will prebake the parts to outgas them, use a super durable color, then use a super durable clear over the top of that. you are probably going to be looking at $100 by the time you are done including sand blasting, and both coats but they will be the toughest thing on your jeep by far. any piece i do that i know will see heavy use is always done in a super durable color and anything i know will see abuse like bumpers and tow hooks ill do a super durable clear over the top. costs more but its worth the money when it still looks perfect years later.
06-29-2013 04:46 PM
damndirtydog It's easy to remove the bumper from a Wrangler, but a Rubicon is more difficult because the automatic sway bar disconnect unit doesn't give much room to remove the nuts on the passenger side. I'm grateful I had an air ratchet.
06-29-2013 04:28 PM
4X4BIKEPED
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Originally Posted by Rvp523 View Post
Okay my next question is......how easy is it to take off the bumper? Can I do it by myself?
Yes it is simple, though a little time consuming.

Here is a visual link:

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/jk-...al-133532.html

btw..

The plastic retainers holding the plastic cover plate don't always come out easily.

Use a hand screw driver and hold them up with any flat tool while trying to unscrew them.

If that doesn't work, simply drill them out and replace them (cheap).

In fact, even if they do unscrew, you may want to replace them anyway.
06-29-2013 10:23 AM
Rvp523 Okay my next question is......how easy is it to take off the bumper? Can I do it by myself?
06-29-2013 12:38 AM
4X4BIKEPED @vin

Different strokes my Jeep friend.

Never the less...

If I were going to all the trouble to disassemble my bumper, I would spend the small amount of extra time and $$$$ to powder coat a part subject to wear.

I had a 2009 Dodge Big Horn 4x4. The wheels (20") were stock silver. I had them powder coated black @ $35 apiece . When I sold the truck in May of this year, not a ding or scratch on the wheels.

In all fairness they were protected by very large Duratracs.

Still, have you ever seen wheels that have been rattle canned after 3 years?

BTW, I always touch up my tow receivers with Rustoleum.

An easy but temporary fix.

But they are down and out of sight for the most part.

pax,

John L.
06-28-2013 09:40 PM
Vin They are already painted. To change the color, just hit them with a different colored enamel. If you use them the way they are supposed to be used you'll end up needing to touch them up every now and again anyways. I disagree with powder coating. I have yet to see a bumper, or rock rail, or whatever hold up against everyday commuting. I've hit them all with a shot of rustoleum rough texture at some point or another.
06-28-2013 08:44 PM
4X4BIKEPED While I haven't painted tow hooks, I would be inclined to do what I do with all potentially heavily used parts that I want to repaint. Two words: powder coat. Strip the part and take to a pro.

It is pretty cheap and way more durable than spray paint.
06-28-2013 08:13 PM
nobndry Yup. It was quite easy, just take the whole bumper off and paint them, and reassemble.
06-28-2013 07:06 PM
NeinDesign
I removed the bumper and hooks, washed and sanded them down a little, threw some light layers of spray paint on them followed by a few clear coats, then reassembled. I'm pleased with the finished product. I'm planning on upgrading my bumper, but want to keep the hooks
06-28-2013 06:56 PM
Rvp523
Painted tow hooks

Has anyone painted their tow hooks? If so, how do you go about it? Do you have to use special paint? Please help

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