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12-19-2013 08:12 AM
Paul04tj
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Originally Posted by machz View Post
Federal mandate for one
Should be able to meet the Fed's with the current platform. No need for the new model yet.
12-17-2013 09:01 PM
romz26 I do plan on getting my jeep in 2015 but to the latest 2016 if they put a diesel in it. My list would be...

Diesel package(comes with d60 rear and d44 front, with option for free float d60 and 1 ton d60 front)
No carpet/bed liner.
Flat bottom(will help with aerodynamics)
Dual battery's
J30 top for an option
Tuffy security products.
12-17-2013 11:31 AM
jdyowa
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Originally Posted by Ramathorn40 View Post

I think it's funny that people who don't own an iPhone always have to make comments about people who do.

I thought this was a jeep forum, not a teenage cell phone bash...
Someone needs a Snickers
12-17-2013 07:07 AM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by Lusus_Naturae View Post
How about 4 buckets, like having all front seats. This can go for the JK and JKU. In between the rear two could be another center console that can be used as a fifth seat - like what's in many front seat areas of pickup trucks. You would have a legal 5 seater, and the pieces could be removed as well, one by one. Each would have a simple locking latch to hold them in, no tools needed for removal or install.
You mean like something "borrowed" out of the Dodge Caravan seat designs? Stow 'n Fold setting?
12-17-2013 07:04 AM
WaltA I know I was shot down for darning to suggest such in another thread, but I would like to see Jeep offer a transmission top gear (overdrive) ratio that "inversely" matches the axle ratio. This way, when you are cruising down the highway, engine RPM would remain low, and fuel mileage high, regardless of what you got in the backend.

Basically, if Jeep offers 4 different axle ratios, they would need to have 4 different transmissions that would complement each.
12-17-2013 06:21 AM
Lusus_Naturae
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Originally Posted by Deep View Post
Only read about half of the posts... but I didn't see any suggestions for a split-folding rear seat for the 2-door so that you could have 2 passengers and at least SOME cargo room
How about 4 buckets, like having all front seats. This can go for the JK and JKU. In between the rear two could be another center console that can be used as a fifth seat - like what's in many front seat areas of pickup trucks. You would have a legal 5 seater, and the pieces could be removed as well, one by one. Each would have a simple locking latch to hold them in, no tools needed for removal or install.

Jeep would end up with a standard seat design for front and rear, the rear would allow for reclining the seat as well, but nothing else (no power seats). There would be ample room for storage in the rear too, just flip the seat up for a storage area and adding one simple harness to the center console could mean two 110 plugs and 2 USB plugs to use too. The back of the center console/seat would flip down and have cup holders too.

The only fault I can see right away is that there may not be a way to completely fold this rear seat design down to make a flat cargo area. It would be likely you'd have to remove the seats instead. However, because they are smaller pieces it may not be as bad to remove them either.

I've even considered looking at swapping these in for that matter, at some point.
12-17-2013 04:59 AM
Ramathorn40
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Originally Posted by jdyowa View Post
I think it's funny how iPhone people think everyone has or wants an iPhone. My note is a year old and still twice as fast as an iPhone 5s. And twice as big.
I think it's funny that people who don't own an iPhone always have to make comments about people who do.

I thought this was a jeep forum, not a teenage cell phone bash...
12-17-2013 03:44 AM
jdyowa I think it's funny how iPhone people think everyone has or wants an iPhone. My note is a year old and still twice as fast as an iPhone 5s. And twice as big.
12-16-2013 11:56 PM
myrtlebeachjeep
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Originally Posted by Breitling View Post
Better gas millage and smarter 4x4. Doors that I don't have to slam to close, bluetooth streaming should display songs names, lumbar support on seats, hid headlights, digital speedometer, ipad/iphone connector standard with ability to change songs on wheel. Otherwise I am fine with current
Mine displays song names and I can change songs on the steering wheel. I also have the digital speedo option....
12-16-2013 09:56 PM
SilverMiner I may have already mentioned this in here but, a CnG bi-fuel option please.
12-16-2013 07:49 PM
Undermoose
But....

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Originally Posted by dawhitesJKU View Post
7. NO 3.21 gears standard!
I love my 3.21 gears. The 285hp Jeep is perfect 1st through 5th, and then add the overdrive. Love my stick shift 3.21 2014 JK!

Per this poll: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/3-...io-192437.html over 82 percent of people with 2012+ JK's with 3.21 are happy, less than 12 percent are unhappy.

You rock crawlers have no clue!
12-16-2013 05:44 PM
machz
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Originally Posted by Paul04tj View Post
What would I like to see?
A delay until 2017 model year.

Why should Chrysler change something that has no direct competition for market share, and they sell all they can make?

Not like a mid-size that needs to be changed every couple years to stay in the market.
Federal mandate for one
12-16-2013 03:24 PM
Paul04tj What would I like to see?
A delay until 2017 model year.

Why should Chrysler change something that has no direct competition for market share, and they sell all they can make?

Not like a mid-size that needs to be changed every couple years to stay in the market.
12-16-2013 02:55 PM
JMOD
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Originally Posted by augsburg View Post
For some of us that have owned modern diesels, the idea of a diesel in a JK is not just about fuel economy. Yes, it saves about 35% on fuel economy in my experience with european SUV's (2007 Audi Q7 3.6L gas with 14 mpg in the city vs. 2012 BMW X5 3.0L twin turbo diesel with 19 mpg in the city). I also don't mind fewer trips to the filling station. Yes, the diesels list at a higher price initially. However, they also hold the value. Kelly Blue Book on my BMW today is currently $6,000 more for the diesel, and it listed at $4,500 more as new. (I paid no premium for the diesel, as BMW discounted it $4,500 when I purchased - I got to take advantage of the general populace's misunderstandings of diesels!)

But the real deal for wanting a diesel in a JK, is the torque - which is quite addictive. Once I got used to the power, torque, and believe it or not, the pure acceleration of a modern, twin turbo diesel, a gas engine just does not do it for me anymore. Think of it like 4WD. You don't buy 4WD for the economy of it all - jeesh, it would be "cheaper" to have AAA to cover the few tow bills you avoid with 4WD.
I agree with the torque and if you have an extra 5K to get it great..

Most think of the diesel for better MPG. My point was most don't calculate the fact that until after the 5th year you don't really see a savings. And I don't think Chrysler/jeep will discount them like BMW will.
12-16-2013 02:42 PM
augsburg
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Originally Posted by JMOD View Post
I still don't get why the diesel option is so popular? If the option costs 4-5K (like it does on the Cherokee) and it only gives you 10 more miles to the gallon, it would take you 4-5 years to pay it off????

Assuming you drive an average of 15K miles a year and reg. gas is $4 a gallon and diesel fuel is $3.50 a gallon. And that's being generous lol.
For some of us that have owned modern diesels, the idea of a diesel in a JK is not just about fuel economy. Yes, it saves about 35% on fuel economy in my experience with european SUV's (2007 Audi Q7 3.6L gas with 14 mpg in the city vs. 2012 BMW X5 3.0L twin turbo diesel with 19 mpg in the city). I also don't mind fewer trips to the filling station. Yes, the diesels list at a higher price initially. However, they also hold the value. Kelly Blue Book on my BMW today is currently $6,000 more for the diesel, and it listed at $4,500 more as new. (I paid no premium for the diesel, as BMW discounted it $4,500 when I purchased - I got to take advantage of the general populace's misunderstandings of diesels!)

But the real deal for wanting a diesel in a JK, is the torque - which is quite addictive. Once I got used to the power, torque, and believe it or not, the pure acceleration of a modern, twin turbo diesel, a gas engine just does not do it for me anymore. Think of it like 4WD. You don't buy 4WD for the economy of it all - jeesh, it would be "cheaper" to have AAA to cover the few tow bills you avoid with 4WD.
12-16-2013 01:51 PM
JMOD
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Originally Posted by WaltA View Post
I thought diesel fuel is significantly more expensive than gas. At least around here.
It is!! That makes the diesel payback even longer than 4-5 years.. I was being nice to the diesel ppl lol..
12-16-2013 01:41 PM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by JMOD View Post
Assuming you drive an average of 15K miles a year and reg. gas is $4 a gallon and diesel fuel is $3.50 a gallon. And that's being generous lol.
I thought diesel fuel is significantly more expensive than gas. At least around here.
12-16-2013 01:07 PM
JMOD I still don't get why the diesel option is so popular? If the option costs 4-5K (like it does on the Cherokee) and it only gives you 10 more miles to the gallon, it would take you 4-5 years to pay it off????

Assuming you drive an average of 15K miles a year and reg. gas is $4 a gallon and diesel fuel is $3.50 a gallon. And that's being generous lol.
12-16-2013 12:30 PM
dwindeck Stronger front D44 axle housing
Their current 8 speed auto
3 sp. transfer case. With a 2.72 & 3.8 low range
A 310hp 285trq Pentastar version.

I will never fold my windshield, but in the case where I could roll the jeep...it's nice to be able to replace the frame and a bracket or two.
12-16-2013 11:57 AM
Justgot2hunt
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Originally Posted by Wrangler2016 View Post
I've wanted a Wrangler for a few years now, but just couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger. I've had a few concerns, most notably, the problem with leaks, especially from the freedom tops. I'm sure many, if not all of my concerns will be taken care of with the 2016 model.

That said, what changes do you want to see with the 2016 redesign? Here are mine....

1. Redesigned roof that eliminates leaks
2. Diesel engine
3. More headroom
4. Doors that hold open in a set position
5. More durable hard top that isn't prone to scratching
6. No carpet option

I love the look of the current Wrangler so I hope they don't do anything to drastic with the look.
If they didn't take care of the leaks by now, why would you assume they will by 2016 ? Not trying to bash ya, but if you really like the way they look.....jump on one ! The only thing I would have waited for IF it was that big a deal to me would be the diesel engine.....but, there's no guarantee it's coming.
12-16-2013 11:42 AM
ramp4ge Maybe I'm just not a big enough audiophile, but I don't think there's anything wrong with the RBZ+6-speaker system that's in mine.
12-16-2013 11:29 AM
Turchman 1. Better rear seat in the 4 door and split option in 2 door
2. Get rid of the folding windshield and give it a little rake so the glass has a chance to live
3. A decent stereo, or at least, make it easier to change out by going 4 ohm and RCA outputs on a decent head unit.
4. More tire and wheel options, they are definitely missing out here.

It really is a fun vehicle, so I wouldn't want to change much.
12-16-2013 11:07 AM
ramp4ge
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Originally Posted by Wrangler2016 View Post
1. Redesigned roof that eliminates leaks
Most leaks are caused by improper care of the seals, or even pinching of the seals.

What would I like to see in the 2016?

10 more years of JK production.
12-16-2013 10:29 AM
augsburg
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Originally Posted by TwoNin9r View Post
i want them to offer a diesel in 2015 JKU so i can grab one before they get ruined in 2016
Me too - as long as they use a modern turbo diesel and not the Cummins or the smaller diesel they used in Europe. The 420 lb-ft torque diesel they put in the '14 Grand Cherokee would be awesome.
12-16-2013 10:29 AM
brad_at
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Originally Posted by Wrangler2016 View Post
I've wanted a Wrangler for a few years now, but just couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger. I've had a few concerns, most notably, the problem with leaks, especially from the freedom tops. I'm sure many, if not all of my concerns will be taken care of with the 2016 model.

That said, what changes do you want to see with the 2016 redesign? Here are mine....

1. Redesigned roof that eliminates leaks
2. Diesel engine
3. More headroom
4. Doors that hold open in a set position
5. More durable hard top that isn't prone to scratching
6. No carpet option

I love the look of the current Wrangler so I hope they don't do anything to drastic with the look.
I bet most dealers would install option #6 on a '14 for free!
12-16-2013 10:27 AM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by onerugrat View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deep View Post
Only read about half of the posts... but I didn't see any suggestions for a split-folding rear seat for the 2-door so that you could have 2 passengers and at least SOME cargo room
yes, Im surprised this did not come up? this way a family of 3 could have the option to throw some skies back there or get away for a weekend.
Since the rear seat of a two-door is completely removable, I am surprised that if there was indeed such a need, that someone wouldn't have ready started to sell a 1-person, 1/2 size, rear seat replacement. Just offer such in factory matching upholstery.
12-16-2013 10:20 AM
Deuce88
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Originally Posted by onerugrat View Post
yes, Im surprised this did not come up? this way a family of 3 could have the option to throw some skies back there or get away for a weekend.
Those would be some short skis!
12-16-2013 09:48 AM
onerugrat
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Originally Posted by Deep View Post
Only read about half of the posts... but I didn't see any suggestions for a split-folding rear seat for the 2-door so that you could have 2 passengers and at least SOME cargo room
yes, Im surprised this did not come up? this way a family of 3 could have the option to throw some skies back there or get away for a weekend.
11-04-2013 11:51 AM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by TOK View Post
The thing that really makes me question Jeep/Fiat decision making is that this thing actually replaces the Liberty. I think if they had just continued with that name, most people wouldn't have cared.
Too many people were demanding that they change the name for the KK follow-on, here in the US, from Liberty to Cherokee. IMHO, it a clear case of being careful of what you demand, you might not really like it once you get it.

The other way around, the 2014 Cherokee is a replacement for the KK, not the XJ.
11-04-2013 11:09 AM
kik I was thinking square headlights.
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