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Today 04:12 PM
mouse1
Ac

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cens View Post
I've owned one car without A/C. Get it. I don't care where you live. Just get it.
Maybe I should. I have owned my current TJ for 11 yrs. without Air. Its my daily driver also, never really missed it. I maybe should this time?
Today 03:39 PM
Cens While I've only owned my JK for about 12 days, and it is my first one, there are a few things I would like to see them add, most of which have already been mentioned:

-- Better headlights
-- Better door and freedom top seals
-- Better headlights
-- A lined floor/no carpet option
-- Better headlights

Chris
Today 03:37 PM
Cens
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Originally Posted by jkjeeper06 View Post
Coming from someone who doesn't have AC in their JK, GET IT! I've done this for 5 years and When it's hot and rainy it's uncomfortable to put the roof down as we don't have internal windshield wipers and you get wet. Same situation with the doors off. Keep in mind I live in New England and say this. Anywhere south of Alaska should have AC. After the boost in resale value, AC is only about a $50 option. It's well worth it
I've owned one car without A/C. Get it. I don't care where you live. Just get it.
Today 03:30 PM
jkjeeper06
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Originally Posted by mouse1 View Post
I am about to order a Jk, the dealer thinks I am crazy I feel. My order consist of a Willys, No Ac, reg. soft top and no options. I like it simple.
Coming from someone who doesn't have AC in their JK, GET IT! I've done this for 5 years and When it's hot and rainy it's uncomfortable to put the roof down as we don't have internal windshield wipers and you get wet. Same situation with the doors off. Keep in mind I live in New England and say this. Anywhere south of Alaska should have AC. After the boost in resale value, AC is only about a $50 option. It's well worth it
Today 03:07 PM
demarpaint The 3.0L VM diesel from the Ram and GC.
Today 03:04 PM
copperhead_1
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Originally Posted by TOK View Post
He knows the lack of air will kill your resale by more than it costs to add it. If you plan to drive it till it dies, no big deal! Only two options I checked off was A/C and 3.73's. I don't use the A/C much (mostly top off from April-Nov), but I'm glad I ordered it.
True! I was all about finding a bare bones sport and modding it out. Ended up with pretty much every option you can get put on there. AC definitely comes in handy when going somewhere in the summer and are not trying to show up looking like you just got out a swimming pool (for all you major perspirers out there)!!
Today 02:56 PM
mouse1
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Originally Posted by TOK View Post
He knows the lack of air will kill your resale by more than it costs to add it. If you plan to drive it till it dies, no big deal!

Only two options I checked off was A/C and 3.73's. I don't use the A/C much (mostly top off from April-Nov), but I'm glad I ordered it.
I wonder how many are ordered without AC?
Today 11:22 AM
TOK
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Originally Posted by mouse1 View Post
I am about to order a Jk, the dealer thinks I am crazy I feel. My order consist of a Willys, No Ac, reg. soft top and no options. I like it simple.
He knows the lack of air will kill your resale by more than it costs to add it. If you plan to drive it till it dies, no big deal!

Only two options I checked off was A/C and 3.73's. I don't use the A/C much (mostly top off from April-Nov), but I'm glad I ordered it.
Today 11:02 AM
mouse1
Basic

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Originally Posted by JEEPDON View Post
And eventually; the JEEP as we know it will go away. As I stated, all the niceties could be options for the people that want them. If enough people bitch about the leaky roof, a non removeable roof will take its place eventually. If enough people bitch about the aerodynamics, it will get more streamlined, if enough people bitch about the solid front axle, it will be replaced with IFS. Just simple marketing. I didn't say a word about the capabilities of JK vs TJ vs YJ vs CJ. The JK in stock form is a VERY capable unit. I Just don't need nor want all the frills and it would be nice if it were available that way. All the plastic fascia's that aren't necessary, along with sound bars, sub-woofer and all other un-necessary stuff will eventually go away on mine, so why did I need to pay for it? I just wanted a JEEP! A new version of the CJ5 with JK suspension and EFI. The plain sport still has too much non weather proof electronics for this type of vehicle IMHO.
I am about to order a Jk, the dealer thinks I am crazy I feel. My order consist of a Willys, No Ac, reg. soft top and no options. I like it simple.
Today 10:25 AM
Boothill If anything....LESS! It's a Wrangler, make it simple and reliable as originally intended.

If you want more, buy a Land Rover!
Today 09:33 AM
mouse1
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Originally Posted by JEEPDON View Post
No nav
No radio
No heated seats
No auto lamps
No electric windows
No auto connect
No air conditioning
No plastic fascia's nor valance's
No plastic fender flares
Of course this stuff could all be optional for the hummer drivers that now want a JEEP; But then the options below would be worth having!
Dana 44's standard; D 60's option
35" tires standard; 37's optional
A real roll cage
A real choice of gearing options from 3.73 all the way thru 5.38
Selectable lockers optional on all trim levels
4:1 Transfer case optional on all trim levels
Manual tranny with a true low gear.
Just a damn JEEP with out all the lace and frills!!
I like the way you think! Ditto
Today 09:16 AM
Tactical Bacon
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Originally Posted by MattK View Post
A busted up TJ maybe. My nephew has one he has to use a pair of scissors to start...don't ask. Still has plenty of plastic and all the other crap.
At least it has the venerable Steel Grill & Fenders!
Today 09:14 AM
nighowl2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Hawker View Post
I thought Fiat was doing this with the Mini-Jeep based on the Fiat 500.
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Yesterday 10:04 PM
MattK
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Originally Posted by Tactical Bacon View Post
Sounds like you want a TJ!
A busted up TJ maybe. My nephew has one he has to use a pair of scissors to start...don't ask. Still has plenty of plastic and all the other crap.
Yesterday 10:00 PM
Tactical Bacon
Quote:
Originally Posted by JEEPDON View Post
No nav
No radio
No heated seats
No auto lamps
No electric windows
No auto connect
No air conditioning
No plastic fascia's nor valance's
No plastic fender flares
Of course this stuff could all be optional for the hummer drivers that now want a JEEP; But then the options below would be worth having!
Dana 44's standard; D 60's option
35" tires standard; 37's optional
A real roll cage
A real choice of gearing options from 3.73 all the way thru 5.38
Selectable lockers optional on all trim levels
4:1 Transfer case optional on all trim levels
Manual tranny with a true low gear.
Just a damn JEEP with out all the lace and frills!!
Sounds like you want a TJ!
12-19-2013 08:12 AM
Paul04tj
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Originally Posted by machz View Post
Federal mandate for one
Should be able to meet the Fed's with the current platform. No need for the new model yet.
12-17-2013 09:01 PM
romz26 I do plan on getting my jeep in 2015 but to the latest 2016 if they put a diesel in it. My list would be...

Diesel package(comes with d60 rear and d44 front, with option for free float d60 and 1 ton d60 front)
No carpet/bed liner.
Flat bottom(will help with aerodynamics)
Dual battery's
J30 top for an option
Tuffy security products.
12-17-2013 11:31 AM
jdyowa
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Originally Posted by Ramathorn40 View Post

I think it's funny that people who don't own an iPhone always have to make comments about people who do.

I thought this was a jeep forum, not a teenage cell phone bash...
Someone needs a Snickers
12-17-2013 07:07 AM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by Lusus_Naturae View Post
How about 4 buckets, like having all front seats. This can go for the JK and JKU. In between the rear two could be another center console that can be used as a fifth seat - like what's in many front seat areas of pickup trucks. You would have a legal 5 seater, and the pieces could be removed as well, one by one. Each would have a simple locking latch to hold them in, no tools needed for removal or install.
You mean like something "borrowed" out of the Dodge Caravan seat designs? Stow 'n Fold setting?
12-17-2013 07:04 AM
WaltA I know I was shot down for darning to suggest such in another thread, but I would like to see Jeep offer a transmission top gear (overdrive) ratio that "inversely" matches the axle ratio. This way, when you are cruising down the highway, engine RPM would remain low, and fuel mileage high, regardless of what you got in the backend.

Basically, if Jeep offers 4 different axle ratios, they would need to have 4 different transmissions that would complement each.
12-17-2013 06:21 AM
Lusus_Naturae
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deep View Post
Only read about half of the posts... but I didn't see any suggestions for a split-folding rear seat for the 2-door so that you could have 2 passengers and at least SOME cargo room
How about 4 buckets, like having all front seats. This can go for the JK and JKU. In between the rear two could be another center console that can be used as a fifth seat - like what's in many front seat areas of pickup trucks. You would have a legal 5 seater, and the pieces could be removed as well, one by one. Each would have a simple locking latch to hold them in, no tools needed for removal or install.

Jeep would end up with a standard seat design for front and rear, the rear would allow for reclining the seat as well, but nothing else (no power seats). There would be ample room for storage in the rear too, just flip the seat up for a storage area and adding one simple harness to the center console could mean two 110 plugs and 2 USB plugs to use too. The back of the center console/seat would flip down and have cup holders too.

The only fault I can see right away is that there may not be a way to completely fold this rear seat design down to make a flat cargo area. It would be likely you'd have to remove the seats instead. However, because they are smaller pieces it may not be as bad to remove them either.

I've even considered looking at swapping these in for that matter, at some point.
12-17-2013 04:59 AM
Ramathorn40
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdyowa View Post
I think it's funny how iPhone people think everyone has or wants an iPhone. My note is a year old and still twice as fast as an iPhone 5s. And twice as big.
I think it's funny that people who don't own an iPhone always have to make comments about people who do.

I thought this was a jeep forum, not a teenage cell phone bash...
12-17-2013 03:44 AM
jdyowa I think it's funny how iPhone people think everyone has or wants an iPhone. My note is a year old and still twice as fast as an iPhone 5s. And twice as big.
12-16-2013 11:56 PM
myrtlebeachjeep
Quote:
Originally Posted by Breitling View Post
Better gas millage and smarter 4x4. Doors that I don't have to slam to close, bluetooth streaming should display songs names, lumbar support on seats, hid headlights, digital speedometer, ipad/iphone connector standard with ability to change songs on wheel. Otherwise I am fine with current
Mine displays song names and I can change songs on the steering wheel. I also have the digital speedo option....
12-16-2013 09:56 PM
SilverMiner I may have already mentioned this in here but, a CnG bi-fuel option please.
12-16-2013 07:49 PM
Undermoose
But....

Quote:
Originally Posted by dawhitesJKU View Post
7. NO 3.21 gears standard!
I love my 3.21 gears. The 285hp Jeep is perfect 1st through 5th, and then add the overdrive. Love my stick shift 3.21 2014 JK!

Per this poll: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/3-...io-192437.html over 82 percent of people with 2012+ JK's with 3.21 are happy, less than 12 percent are unhappy.

You rock crawlers have no clue!
12-16-2013 05:44 PM
machz
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul04tj View Post
What would I like to see?
A delay until 2017 model year.

Why should Chrysler change something that has no direct competition for market share, and they sell all they can make?

Not like a mid-size that needs to be changed every couple years to stay in the market.
Federal mandate for one
12-16-2013 03:24 PM
Paul04tj What would I like to see?
A delay until 2017 model year.

Why should Chrysler change something that has no direct competition for market share, and they sell all they can make?

Not like a mid-size that needs to be changed every couple years to stay in the market.
12-16-2013 02:55 PM
JMOD
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Originally Posted by augsburg View Post
For some of us that have owned modern diesels, the idea of a diesel in a JK is not just about fuel economy. Yes, it saves about 35% on fuel economy in my experience with european SUV's (2007 Audi Q7 3.6L gas with 14 mpg in the city vs. 2012 BMW X5 3.0L twin turbo diesel with 19 mpg in the city). I also don't mind fewer trips to the filling station. Yes, the diesels list at a higher price initially. However, they also hold the value. Kelly Blue Book on my BMW today is currently $6,000 more for the diesel, and it listed at $4,500 more as new. (I paid no premium for the diesel, as BMW discounted it $4,500 when I purchased - I got to take advantage of the general populace's misunderstandings of diesels!)

But the real deal for wanting a diesel in a JK, is the torque - which is quite addictive. Once I got used to the power, torque, and believe it or not, the pure acceleration of a modern, twin turbo diesel, a gas engine just does not do it for me anymore. Think of it like 4WD. You don't buy 4WD for the economy of it all - jeesh, it would be "cheaper" to have AAA to cover the few tow bills you avoid with 4WD.
I agree with the torque and if you have an extra 5K to get it great..

Most think of the diesel for better MPG. My point was most don't calculate the fact that until after the 5th year you don't really see a savings. And I don't think Chrysler/jeep will discount them like BMW will.
12-16-2013 02:42 PM
augsburg
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Originally Posted by JMOD View Post
I still don't get why the diesel option is so popular? If the option costs 4-5K (like it does on the Cherokee) and it only gives you 10 more miles to the gallon, it would take you 4-5 years to pay it off????

Assuming you drive an average of 15K miles a year and reg. gas is $4 a gallon and diesel fuel is $3.50 a gallon. And that's being generous lol.
For some of us that have owned modern diesels, the idea of a diesel in a JK is not just about fuel economy. Yes, it saves about 35% on fuel economy in my experience with european SUV's (2007 Audi Q7 3.6L gas with 14 mpg in the city vs. 2012 BMW X5 3.0L twin turbo diesel with 19 mpg in the city). I also don't mind fewer trips to the filling station. Yes, the diesels list at a higher price initially. However, they also hold the value. Kelly Blue Book on my BMW today is currently $6,000 more for the diesel, and it listed at $4,500 more as new. (I paid no premium for the diesel, as BMW discounted it $4,500 when I purchased - I got to take advantage of the general populace's misunderstandings of diesels!)

But the real deal for wanting a diesel in a JK, is the torque - which is quite addictive. Once I got used to the power, torque, and believe it or not, the pure acceleration of a modern, twin turbo diesel, a gas engine just does not do it for me anymore. Think of it like 4WD. You don't buy 4WD for the economy of it all - jeesh, it would be "cheaper" to have AAA to cover the few tow bills you avoid with 4WD.
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