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07-11-2013 10:07 AM
Duckquackers I have owned from a CJ to now my second JKU and the only thing that shocks me is the comfort AND offroading ability of my Minivan/Station wagon/convertible Cherokee/H2.5.

Here is the deal we HATE Hummers because most of them are stuck up non offroading ROB's that believe they have gods gift to the car industry.
07-11-2013 09:51 AM
CarolinaBound
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Originally Posted by O_M_Jeep View Post
I actually agree with you on that one, the 4 door wranglers, to me, look like a convertable Cherokee, my opinion, just an opinion, of course I don't own one, obviously
Well your opinion is wrong. Unless your opinion is JKs are minivans, warn warn warn, china sucks, older=better, johnny joints/currie is gods gift to man, above 5 inches is the devil, wheels must be 15x8(preferably black soft 8s), FJ's suck brcause FJ, and if you dare go a different route than Jerry or Imped you are totally wrong. :halo:
07-11-2013 08:55 AM
O_M_Jeep I actually agree with you on that one, the 4 door wranglers, to me, look like a convertable Cherokee, my opinion, just an opinion, of course I don't own one, obviously
07-11-2013 08:44 AM
harleydragon I must have stepped on someones toes
07-11-2013 08:08 AM
panthermark
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Originally Posted by harleydragon View Post
I see very little difference in the h3 and the new jeeps.they are both okay if you are in the market for a station wagon


I didn't know the top and doors came off of H3's or station wagons.

Besides, the topic is about Hummer hate...
07-11-2013 03:09 AM
michiganadam You guys know the h1 was designed to be narrow enough to fit through a railroad tunnel right? Lol
07-10-2013 06:02 PM
O_M_Jeep yeah, it was the weakest example of all that I found.
07-10-2013 03:30 PM
derf
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Originally Posted by 4WDGroceryGetter View Post
I actually kinda like this one!
07-10-2013 03:11 PM
4WDGroceryGetter
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Originally Posted by O_M_Jeep View Post
I think it's because the people who own / build these -




I actually kinda like this one!
07-08-2013 08:42 PM
viperx6x9x I just don't like any hummer GM ever made. They are nothing like a real hummer (H1) and shouldn't carry the name. Other than that I don't find them bad looking if you get rid of all the chrome, but they still have none of the capabilities of a real hummer.

That being said, my buddies wife pulled up to the bbq in her new H2 the other day. Actually decent looking in yellow, but I couldn't resist messing with him a little. "i like your new suburban, it's pretty."

I would get an H1 though if i could afford it, more maintenance than modern jeeps but not near as bad as you think. I used to work on military helo's, H-53, now that is a maintenance PITA. Something like 14 maintenance hour's per flight hour. Plus another hour to fill up the fuel tanks.

Took a 10 man crew like 3 hours to do a wash job for maintenance and lubing up all the moving parts, and greasing the fittings and such afterward. That had to be done every 14 days regardless if it even moved from it's parking spot.

The maintenance on an H1 is nothing compared to aircraft. It has relatively few moving parts by comparison. There is no mountain an H1 can't cross though, just hook it up to an external load sling on an H-53 and fly it on across. Except maybe Mt. Everest, that's kind of pushing it.
07-08-2013 08:13 PM
HillbillyJeeper I drove real Hummers in the military, decent vehicle but was a bit large for my taste. The H1 is the same but they are OK and pretty rugged. The H2 is a Poser Tahoe and the H3 is just funny.
Newer jeeps are not comparable to H2's or 3's in my opinion. Now they have gone a bit overboard on the niceties but a new Rubicon, 2 or 4 door, is the most capable off road vehicle on the market. I don't know of anything even in the same league.
07-08-2013 08:01 PM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by harleydragon View Post
I see very little difference in the h3 and the new jeeps.they are both okay if you are in the market for a station wagon
a 2 door station wagon that can comfortably seat 2? That's not much of a station wagon....
07-08-2013 04:52 PM
scipio337
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Originally Posted by harleydragon View Post
I see very little difference in the h3 and the new jeeps.they are both okay if you are in the market for a station wagon

Zing!


For the OP, I'd say it's a friendly rivalry, aka Cards/Cubs. As long as the Cub fan/Hummer owner acknowledges our vast superiority.
07-08-2013 03:59 PM
harleydragon I see very little difference in the h3 and the new jeeps.they are both okay if you are in the market for a station wagon
07-08-2013 03:00 PM
Scrivah Only ever liked the H1.....everything else after that was just made to accommodate the blacktop.
07-08-2013 02:52 PM
GoldenSahara00 Hummers are fat ugly and bad on gas, and way overpriced. Those are the main reasons. h1s can be sweet.
07-08-2013 02:29 PM
Lusus_Naturae
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Originally Posted by derf View Post
The H1 is fine for what it is. A utility truck that replaced a lot of different inventory in the military. It's not a great rock crawler but it's really good at other types of off roading. It was pricey when it was available to the public and it really was under powered (which is an easy solvable problem). But it's not a bad vehicle.

The H2 was built for an entirely different purpose. It's nothing more than an overpriced Tahoe with a body kit. It's really not great for doing much off road at all. When GM beefed it up a little they didn't go far enough and it has some major weaknesses.

The H3 is just the same as the H2 but built on the Colorado platform.

The H2/3 are really just mall crawling posers for people who are kidding themselves or just want to show off their money.
This sums up my feelings. I have some respect for the H1 owners - some. I have a few friends with H1's that know how to drive them and know what they can do. They have a lot of fun too.

I know a few H2 owners, all use them for show and not go. I know a lawyer that wrote his off as a business expense, he hauls file folders in it. He also has the bad ass attitude, it just doesn't work for me at all. I think a lot of people got pissed off when it became fashionable to buy the H2 and then write it off on taxes as a business expense - it was a loophole that people took advantage of. See - It's not just a Hummer, it's a tax break - seattlepi.com
07-08-2013 01:33 PM
zracTA H1 will always be awesome, the rest not so much
07-08-2013 12:56 PM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by lindel View Post
The Surrey was a special edition from the factory, not something blinged out by the owner.
Thats why i think its so funny. Normally youd have to do all that bling yourself and it came that way lol....

it was made for those islanders too...lol
07-08-2013 12:54 PM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by Getnoff View Post
Actually helicopters require much more maintenance than aircraft...about 10 times more per hour roughly. I've owned both, and fly commercially (used to wrench commercially also btw.)
Troy
Helicopters are aircraft. and of course they cost more.
07-08-2013 10:39 AM
Owen_TJ
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Originally Posted by Lando25 View Post
Its a classic case of something that started out cool, but strayed so far away from its original design and intent that the H3 was almost unrecognizable from the H1. Jeep is starting to do the same thing, but luckily not anything close to what Hummer did. There's a reason why they went out of business.
Completely agree...
07-08-2013 09:16 AM
Getnoff
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Originally Posted by michiganadam View Post
Jeeps were made for the military to be maintained by the military in the first place. The H1 was significantly redesigned for the civilian market, so this makes no sense whatsoever. BS on that one.

H1 was pretty much the same as the mil version HMMV. I do agree that H2 and 3s were sole built for civilians. So, my turn to call bs!

It probably requires a lot of maintenance time because of complicated engineering. Like a helicopter.

All aircraft require a lot of maintenance, such as rebuilding engines that run fine. Cause it'd really suck if they failed in operation.
Actually helicopters require much more maintenance than aircraft...about 10 times more per hour roughly. I've owned both, and fly commercially (used to wrench commercially also btw.)
Troy
07-08-2013 09:07 AM
Lanco plus.. its just plain fun to have a villain to go against our hero .
07-08-2013 08:50 AM
lindel The Surrey was a special edition from the factory, not something blinged out by the owner.
07-08-2013 07:30 AM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by O_M_Jeep View Post
I have to disagree with "seen many a wrangler the same way", the islanders do like to pretty up the Jeeps, but for the H2/H3 crowd it's S.O.P.
07-08-2013 07:00 AM
O_M_Jeep I have to disagree with "seen many a wrangler the same way", the islanders do like to pretty up the Jeeps, but for the H2/H3 crowd it's S.O.P.
07-08-2013 06:49 AM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by Getnoff View Post
And don't forget their awesome add campaign years ago when the H3 came out to boost sales..."Get your girl on!" Barf. I believe its the stigma the owners put on themselves. The wannabees buying the H2/3 because they can't afford the H1. It's like peeps buying the Compass and bragging about their new rugged Jeep maybe!
I almost bought an H1 in 95 when I bought my second wrangler until my friend that managed a Jeep/Hummer dealer convinced me otherwise. Every H1 they had in the shop spent many a day in the service bays. H1s are like helicopters...built for the military to be maintained by the military. Which means, 1 hour of operation is 10 hours of maintenance! Made sense to me.
How many H2/3s have u seen on the trails? Maybe a reason for that.
Regarding the ridiculous looking SEMAmobiles above....seen many a Wrangler same way. Again, barf! Hell, even Jeep had the Renegade for a while! Lol
Just my humble insight!
Troy
Jeeps were made for the military to be maintained by the military in the first place. The H1 was significantly redesigned for the civilian market, so this makes no sense whatsoever. BS on that one.

It probably requires a lot of maintenance time because of complicated engineering. Like a helicopter.

All aircraft require a lot of maintenance, such as rebuilding engines that run fine. Cause it'd really suck if they failed in operation.
07-07-2013 11:36 PM
Getnoff And don't forget their awesome add campaign years ago when the H3 came out to boost sales..."Get your girl on!" Barf. I believe its the stigma the owners put on themselves. The wannabees buying the H2/3 because they can't afford the H1. It's like peeps buying the Compass and bragging about their new rugged Jeep maybe!
I almost bought an H1 in 95 when I bought my second wrangler until my friend that managed a Jeep/Hummer dealer convinced me otherwise. Every H1 they had in the shop spent many a day in the service bays. H1s are like helicopters...built for the military to be maintained by the military. Which means, 1 hour of operation is 10 hours of maintenance! Made sense to me.
How many H2/3s have u seen on the trails? Maybe a reason for that.
Regarding the ridiculous looking SEMAmobiles above....seen many a Wrangler same way. Again, barf! Hell, even Jeep had the Renegade for a while! Lol
Just my humble insight!
Troy
07-07-2013 10:34 PM
Cdwright
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Originally Posted by rogueleader View Post
For me, it's the drivers. Here in Vegas, they are arrogant and because the H2 is so much bigger than most cars, they drive them with the intention of intimidating other drivers. I have had at least two of these drivers tailgate and then go around me just to cut me off just to get in front of me, and then have the balls to flip me off. They are worse than drivers who drive the oversize pickups.
Right, and the parents that buy these for their newly licensed sons or daughters to drive o they do not get get injured when they smash into someone while talking on the phone/texting.
07-07-2013 10:05 PM
cjeezy Thanks for the replies everyone...and for going easy on me with my question! Never even realized some of the things that were mentioned!
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