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07-26-2013 09:48 AM
NJO
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Originally Posted by mrpotatohead View Post
Well a few days ago I went outside of a gravel pit and ran the suspension up and down on some rock piles and nothing seemed to bind. I've got some squeaks from dry bushings and the quick discos make some noise but overall... It seems okay given the catastrophe I thought I was initially facing. The bump stop extensions work as they should, I have a wobble around 65... Not sure if that's geometry or the fact that the toe is off and the mud terrains are about as balanced as Oprahs diet. The only pressing issues I see myself tackling in the near future are tires, alignment, and tracking a leak in the line for the rear locker... Oh and lots, and lots of lube for the ca's.

Still no word on wtf happened to the company who built the ca's (or entire lift).
That suspension is a trainwreck..........company is most likely oob for a reason
07-24-2013 01:37 AM
mrpotatohead Well a few days ago I went outside of a gravel pit and ran the suspension up and down on some rock piles and nothing seemed to bind. I've got some squeaks from dry bushings and the quick discos make some noise but overall... It seems okay given the catastrophe I thought I was initially facing. The bump stop extensions work as they should, I have a wobble around 65... Not sure if that's geometry or the fact that the toe is off and the mud terrains are about as balanced as Oprahs diet. The only pressing issues I see myself tackling in the near future are tires, alignment, and tracking a leak in the line for the rear locker... Oh and lots, and lots of lube for the ca's.

Still no word on wtf happened to the company who built the ca's (or entire lift).
07-24-2013 01:21 AM
MetalMountainGoat I will let the suspension gurus chime in, but you definitely have your work cut out for you. It would probably be easier to just go to a short arm suspension since it appears to have all the original brackets still in tact.
07-24-2013 12:48 AM
mrpotatohead Sorry for the delay guys I've been dealing with a home robbery and planning a wedding. It's a miracle i haven't eaten a bullet. (Kidding)

Here are some snaps from today of my susp
07-12-2013 10:07 AM
MFsoftball22 Agreed. You can always fix. i would assume that the OEM brackets should be there yet. I would def go back to the OEM mounting points with some Adjustable control arms like TXST8tj stated. It will def be a better set up than you have now.
07-12-2013 09:59 AM
brs256 i agree with ^ if factory brackets still exist i would get some savvy / currie control arms and call it a day !!
07-12-2013 09:53 AM
TXST8tj If all of the OEM control arm mounts are still intact, ditch the long arm setup for a set of quality standard length, adjustable control arms. Your Jeep will thank you for it.
07-11-2013 06:58 PM
NJO
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Originally Posted by mrpotatohead View Post
Well this is why I love wf. Guys on pirate would have shredded me like wolves. Now I need your help understanding the locations of brackets and whatnot. If all it is is bracketry and arms then I'll just run up to teraflex and talk to them
First off, need ALOT MORE pics of the underside.......if all the original brackets are in place that will make fixing up the suspension a lot easier. The front looks really messed up though.........but nothing we cant get straightened out.
07-11-2013 05:32 PM
mrpotatohead Well this is why I love wf. Guys on pirate would have shredded me like wolves. Now I need your help understanding the locations of brackets and whatnot. If all it is is bracketry and arms then I'll just run up to teraflex and talk to them
07-11-2013 04:35 PM
NJO
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Originally Posted by mrpotatohead View Post
Thanks guys! I'm so stoked right now. My TJ was awesome it just needed too many little things and such high mileage and was nickel and diming me to death. This LJ has 33k on the clock. 6" long arm. I might need help identifying the brand because it's been painted. 6 spd. 9000lb warn. Full size spare... Ive never seen the bumpers before. Need help identifying those too. I'm assuming it's geared because it's way too peppy for having 35's.
From the looks of those pictures the suspension looks HACKED. My suggestion is to put some money into getting it straightened out.
07-11-2013 04:34 PM
Dare Welcome to LJ land, I love Black Betty she is a great ride!
07-11-2013 04:26 PM
RedneckWranglerTJ
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Originally Posted by LJDan View Post
Smart buy...jk's suck. Good luck and enjoy your new LJ.
I agree Jk suck
07-11-2013 03:46 PM
mrpotatohead So after further inspection ive gathered that the control arms are SXOR or skys extreme offroad. Local joint out of utah. Can't find much on them past 2008 though. Someone on pirate or JF described them as a bunch of mall crawling idiots who don't know a trac bar from a control arm
07-11-2013 01:47 PM
Verf Sweet ride! Love my LJ Rubi! Mind if I inquire the price?
07-11-2013 01:41 PM
MFsoftball22
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Originally Posted by mrpotatohead View Post
Honestly I didn't read that far into the suspension. My short arms on my other tj have a similar bend in them and I have never had a long arm. It drives totally fine down the road with the exception of the mud terrains
The good thing is like TXST8tj said, you have a LJ Rubi, the suspension can be corrected.
07-11-2013 01:31 PM
mrpotatohead Honestly I didn't read that far into the suspension. My short arms on my other tj have a similar bend in them and I have never had a long arm. It drives totally fine down the road with the exception of the mud terrains
07-11-2013 01:02 PM
MFsoftball22
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Originally Posted by TXST8tj View Post
That suspension geometry is kinda crazy. I zoomed in on the first picture...the front uppers are using the OEM lower CA mounts. Aftermarket mounts were welded to the frame for the front lowers. The front lowers have an extreme bend in them, presumably to clear the upper arms. So, not only are there looooong arms hanging down, but they bend toward the ground. This is not going to be fun offroad.

The rear looks to have a similar setup with welded on lower CA mounts and what look like Rubicon Express arms. The OEM upper CA mounts are still in place, so judging by what was done up front, I would guess the rear upper CAs are tied in there.

It looks like there is some plating on the side of the frame just in front of the rear lower CA mount, perhaps for extra support.

Basically, that suspension is a hot mess. It can be fixed, but I'm surprised you can drive it straight down the road.


The bumpers are both FabFours.

Guessing it probably has a Warn winch under the Warn cover.

They welded steps onto the OEM Rubi rocker guards....don't put too much weight on those.


The upside to the suspension is that it can be fixed. The great thing is it's a Rubi LJ. Doesn't get better than that.
I was thinking that I saw this correctly. That was my first impression when looking at the suspension. I was also thinking the same thing about the front lower control arms. It looks like they bent the lowers so that they wouldnt hit on the OEM brackets like you said.
The Lower Arms at downward angle and Upper Arms are at a upward angle. This would really cause the arms to work against each other. I really having a hard time understanding what the PO was thinking on the suspension system.
07-11-2013 12:39 PM
TXST8tj That suspension geometry is kinda crazy. I zoomed in on the first picture...the front uppers are using the OEM lower CA mounts. Aftermarket mounts were welded to the frame for the front lowers. The front lowers have an extreme bend in them, presumably to clear the upper arms. So, not only are there looooong arms hanging down, but they bend toward the ground. This is not going to be fun offroad.

The rear looks to have a similar setup with welded on lower CA mounts and what look like Rubicon Express arms. The OEM upper CA mounts are still in place, so judging by what was done up front, I would guess the rear upper CAs are tied in there.

It looks like there is some plating on the side of the frame just in front of the rear lower CA mount, perhaps for extra support.

Basically, that suspension is a hot mess. It can be fixed, but I'm surprised you can drive it straight down the road.


The bumpers are both FabFours.

Guessing it probably has a Warn winch under the Warn cover.

They welded steps onto the OEM Rubi rocker guards....don't put too much weight on those.


The upside to the suspension is that it can be fixed. The great thing is it's a Rubi LJ. Doesn't get better than that.
07-11-2013 12:26 PM
rdock31
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Originally Posted by MFsoftball22 View Post
Good looking LJ Rubi.

Would def need more pics of the suspension to help idnetify. It looks like the upper control arms are mounted to the lower control arm mounts on the frame. Is this correct or am I looking at this wrong?
That does look a little strange with the LCA mounts still there.. Always thought that was removed when using long arms
07-11-2013 12:23 PM
mrpotatohead
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Originally Posted by MFsoftball22 View Post
Good looking LJ Rubi.

Would def need more pics of the suspension to help idnetify. It looks like the upper control arms are mounted to the lower control arm mounts on the frame. Is this correct or am I looking at this wrong?
I can snap a few shots here in a couple hours when the detailers finish it up. I asked politely to remove the yellow autozone seatcovers and goofy 4x4 "brush stroke" decals. The PO went a little nuts under the hood too with painting the engine and accessories... Oh well.
07-11-2013 12:10 PM
LJDan Smart buy...jk's suck. Good luck and enjoy your new LJ.
07-11-2013 11:54 AM
thetoadLJ rear is fab four too i believe. congrats on your new purchase.
07-11-2013 11:49 AM
SuperTJ Welcome to the LJ Club
Good looking JL Rubi
07-11-2013 11:45 AM
greg_24
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Originally Posted by Rubicon06Va View Post
Welcome to the LJ Rubi club!

x2
07-11-2013 11:36 AM
MFsoftball22 Good looking LJ Rubi.

Would def need more pics of the suspension to help idnetify. It looks like the upper control arms are mounted to the lower control arm mounts on the frame. Is this correct or am I looking at this wrong?
07-11-2013 11:19 AM
Ljcrawler05 looks like you have fab fours front bumper, can't tell on the rear

suspension is probably gonna be tough without better pictures of the arms and joints

it appears you have an antirock on the front of the Jeep, which is an offroad sway bar.
07-10-2013 11:28 PM
lavern23 Welcome to the lj club. I love mine.
07-10-2013 11:03 PM
mrpotatohead Thanks guys! I'm so stoked right now. My TJ was awesome it just needed too many little things and such high mileage and was nickel and diming me to death. This LJ has 33k on the clock. 6" long arm. I might need help identifying the brand because it's been painted. 6 spd. 9000lb warn. Full size spare... Ive never seen the bumpers before. Need help identifying those too. I'm assuming it's geared because it's way too peppy for having 35's.
07-10-2013 09:53 PM
Goobs63 Now just hope they did the OPDA fix to the engine so you don't smoke it tomorrow.
07-10-2013 09:35 PM
NJO LJ ='s best of the best of the best of all the Wrangler models in terms of functionality and looks. Smart move bypassing the "JK".....
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