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07-11-2013 09:09 PM
Brig Out of curiosity, how much did the job set you back? Mine has been doing it in the Cherokee, I hammer fist it to get it to stop. Finally got sick of it and pulled the fuse
04-18-2013 04:05 PM
oOoYTSEJAMoOo
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Originally Posted by Bourget117 View Post

You mean like horn going of at a crowded super market, bank parking lot or pulling into a car wash like mine did??
Now it's starting to sound like you have the Tourette edition.
04-18-2013 10:59 AM
Bourget117
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Originally Posted by tluke View Post
I'm just glad it didn't go off at some embarrassing moment, like stuck at a traffic light. It was always as I was getting in or out.
You mean like horn going of at a crowded super market, bank parking lot or pulling into a car wash like mine did??
04-13-2013 06:52 AM
tluke I'm just glad it didn't go off at some embarrassing moment, like stuck at a traffic light. It was always as I was getting in or out.
04-11-2013 06:24 PM
oOoYTSEJAMoOo You probably bought the NYC version jeep wrangler.
04-11-2013 05:45 PM
BManz Thanks tluke! I'm filing a copy of this away in the vault.
04-11-2013 11:08 AM
tluke When the dealership made my repair they gave me some photos and an explanation of the work they performed. This is my first attempt at posting pictures. Hopefully it works.






They were very helpful and confident that this will settle it. Maybe this will help those with similar problems.
04-09-2013 04:43 PM
BManz
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Originally Posted by tluke View Post
I got it back from the dealership this morning and they are quite confident that they have found the problem. I was told that the problem had been diagnosed and it centers around the wiring harness. They needed to add a wire for ground. In addition, they replaced the cruise control switch. It shorted in the process.
I suspect a short or ground issue is the real root cause too. But -- big but -- there may be multiple reasons causing some horns to come on steady. Wonder if your ground wire was broken, missing or just loose? May or may not be related to the supposedly bad switch part. I get lots of static shock when I get out now that I think of it but that happens to me in all vehicles with cloth seats. Thanks for the info.
04-09-2013 01:14 PM
tluke
04-09-2013 12:30 PM
live_slow tag. i'm sorry but this thread is unintentionally funny.

sounds like we need a priest up in here.
04-09-2013 11:44 AM
tluke I got it back from the dealership this morning and they are quite confident that they have found the problem. I was told that the problem had been diagnosed and it centers around the wiring harness. They needed to add a wire for ground. In addition, they replaced the cruise control switch. It shorted in the process.
04-09-2013 08:24 AM
Bourget117
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Originally Posted by BManz View Post
So if what you say is true, then ALL 2012-2013 Chrysler/Jeep vehicles with cruise are experiencing the horn staying on because the cruise switch is a cross-platform part? Haven't seen that, but I did see the statement my dealer had from the Star case that looked like a supplier issue with this part, i.e. a bad batch of parts. If the bad run made it into production, part of that bad run also made it into the service parts chain where they sit waiting -- for a long time.
I got my info from the service manager, star rep and regional tech. Someone is giving out false info
04-08-2013 08:32 PM
tluke I have had mine in multiple times for the same problem. It is currently at the dealership for another attempt at fixing the problem permanently. The dealership said they consulted with the Regional Service Rep who stated that it was a problem with the wiring harness that shorted by static electricity. They are confident this will solve the problem. The last fix lasted several months so I won't know for sure if this finally fixed it for some time. During this most recent episode the horn blared constantly but the Cruise an EVIC switches continued to function. I guess it is somewhat comforting to know that I am NOT the only one with this problem.
04-08-2013 04:42 PM
BManz
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Originally Posted by Bourget117 View Post
Well since I started this post I've had mine replaced 3 times. Engineers, techs, service managers all involved and still i was finally told the problem is not fixed. It's not a bad batch of cruise switched its a bad design. The new design has a built in capacitor.
So if what you say is true, then ALL 2012-2013 Chrysler/Jeep vehicles with cruise are experiencing the horn staying on because the cruise switch is a cross-platform part? Haven't seen that, but I did see the statement my dealer had from the Star case that looked like a supplier issue with this part, i.e. a bad batch of parts. If the bad run made it into production, part of that bad run also made it into the service parts chain where they sit waiting -- for a long time.
04-06-2013 12:19 PM
scottmphoto Ahhhhh Chrysler.
04-06-2013 08:59 AM
maleman876 Mine was fixed this morning. Cruise switch, that's two replacements with less than 5K miles on it.
04-03-2013 08:27 AM
Bourget117
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Originally Posted by BManz View Post
Had the same "horn comes on and stays on" problem. The dealer replaced the cruise control button pad assembly on the steering wheel (there is a TSB - don't know the #) and problem was solved. A week later and the same thing happened.

Dealer tech worked with corporate engineering and found out there are a bunch of these cruise button assemblies that are bad and made it into production as well as the service parts supply chain.

They replaced the cruise button assly (again) and so far so good.
Well since I started this post I've had mine replaced 3 times. Engineers, techs, service managers all involved and still i was finally told the problem is not fixed. It's not a bad batch of cruise switched its a bad design. The new design has a built in capacitor. Chrysler has known about this for awhile now. They sent me a revised design switch to try and it failed two days later. Last week I wash told it will be a few months possibly before a new design is available. Then they will call me to install it. Until then I was told my only choice was to come in and get cruise switch replaced every time it fails.
04-02-2013 09:27 AM
BManz Had the same "horn comes on and stays on" problem. The dealer replaced the cruise control button pad assembly on the steering wheel (there is a TSB - don't know the #) and problem was solved. A week later and the same thing happened.

Dealer tech worked with corporate engineering and found out there are a bunch of these cruise button assemblies that are bad and made it into production as well as the service parts supply chain.

They replaced the cruise button assly (again) and so far so good.
04-02-2013 08:53 AM
michaeltoc I have the same problem. Dealer replaced the cruise switch, horn switch, and clockspring. Escalated the case to Chrysler. They acknowledged a problem with the cruise switch and are working on a modification.
03-14-2013 11:17 AM
yjswampthing
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Originally Posted by Bourget117 View Post
It's not just pulling the fuse to solve an annoying problem. I thought it would but I was wrong when every time the vehicle shorted out which by he way is the cause, it runs down the batery til it's completely dead if you don't start the jeep at least once a day. I'm still having problems after three trips to dealer. It's the cruise control switch which is wired to horn. All part of the inline CANBUS system. Chrysler knows about this and they don't know what to do about it. Supposedly they are trying to design a new switch with a built in ground but that doesn't do me or anyone else any good in the mean time.
I guess this definitely concerns me as I still have opportunity to back out of the sale. How are they not able to isolate and replace a defective part in your steering wheel? If not all JKUs do this than certainly there must be a set up that does work without problems. I just don't want to be in and out of the dealer wasting my time with it.
03-14-2013 09:00 AM
yjswampthing Jeep Dealer is saying it's the Horn switch on mine. Should have it fixed today. Fingers crossed this is the only time I have to deal with the issue.
03-13-2013 02:51 PM
maleman876 had to get my cruise control buttons replaced last week, it was cauing all the buttons on my wheel and the horn to not function at all. its all tied in together through the clockspring so it could be anything in there
03-13-2013 02:42 PM
Bourget117
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Originally Posted by yjswampthing View Post
I picked up a JKU 2012 Model yesterday from the dealer (Ford Dealer). 8k miles on it. Went to lunch today and was taking the front panels off the hard top when the horn comes on and stays on. I thought I had tripped some sort of security thing. Noticed that the actual horn button does not function driving down the road or in park. Did it again before I got it started and left. Just like you're describing... like a Phantom laying on the horn. Did it again in the Target parking lot so I drove it to the dealer (luckily right across the street from work) he's taking it to the jeep dealer now hoping they figure it out quick.



Question is, if I tell them I want to take it today is there any danger in doing that? Just pulling the fuses till I can set an appt at jeep for them to get in the wheel and fix it? I don't want it to be some sort of security feature that's gonna electrically lock my jeep down where I get stuck somewhere.

I have problems with patience and it's 75 and sunny in Dallas


Otherwise, good to be back in the jeep world! This is #3 for me (been a hard 2 years since Rubi has been gone :-/ )


Thanks guys
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Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
Most of the peeps who end up having the horn problem end up pulling their fuse. It's either that, or break out the shotgun...
It's not just pulling the fuse to solve an annoying problem. I thought it would but I was wrong when every time the vehicle shorted out which by he way is the cause, it runs down the batery til it's completely dead if you don't start the jeep at least once a day. I'm still having problems after three trips to dealer. It's the cruise control switch which is wired to horn. All part of the inline CANBUS system. Chrysler knows about this and they don't know what to do about it. Supposedly they are trying to design a new switch with a built in ground but that doesn't do me or anyone else any good in the mean time.
03-13-2013 01:37 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by yjswampthing View Post
I picked up a JKU 2012 Model yesterday from the dealer (Ford Dealer). 8k miles on it. Went to lunch today and was taking the front panels off the hard top when the horn comes on and stays on. I thought I had tripped some sort of security thing. Noticed that the actual horn button does not function driving down the road or in park. Did it again before I got it started and left. Just like you're describing... like a Phantom laying on the horn. Did it again in the Target parking lot so I drove it to the dealer (luckily right across the street from work) he's taking it to the jeep dealer now hoping they figure it out quick.



Question is, if I tell them I want to take it today is there any danger in doing that? Just pulling the fuses till I can set an appt at jeep for them to get in the wheel and fix it? I don't want it to be some sort of security feature that's gonna electrically lock my jeep down where I get stuck somewhere.

I have problems with patience and it's 75 and sunny in Dallas


Otherwise, good to be back in the jeep world! This is #3 for me (been a hard 2 years since Rubi has been gone :-/ )


Thanks guys
Most of the peeps who end up having the horn problem end up pulling their fuse. It's either that, or break out the shotgun...
03-13-2013 01:31 PM
yjswampthing I picked up a JKU 2012 Model yesterday from the dealer (Ford Dealer). 8k miles on it. Went to lunch today and was taking the front panels off the hard top when the horn comes on and stays on. I thought I had tripped some sort of security thing. Noticed that the actual horn button does not function driving down the road or in park. Did it again before I got it started and left. Just like you're describing... like a Phantom laying on the horn. Did it again in the Target parking lot so I drove it to the dealer (luckily right across the street from work) he's taking it to the jeep dealer now hoping they figure it out quick.



Question is, if I tell them I want to take it today is there any danger in doing that? Just pulling the fuses till I can set an appt at jeep for them to get in the wheel and fix it? I don't want it to be some sort of security feature that's gonna electrically lock my jeep down where I get stuck somewhere.

I have problems with patience and it's 75 and sunny in Dallas


Otherwise, good to be back in the jeep world! This is #3 for me (been a hard 2 years since Rubi has been gone :-/ )


Thanks guys
02-03-2013 07:37 PM
Bourget117
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Originally Posted by Bourget117

Ok so I googled the clockspring and now I know where it's located and what it does. I'm a little surprised it could be worn out already on a 2012 with 6000 miles but maybe just defective. Anything is possible I guess my last vehicle I bought new in 2003 was a Infiniti FX45, one of the first to hit the market, needed to have the entire rear hatch replaced after three days of owning it so anything is possible.
So here where I'm confused. If clockspring could be bad then horn stays on by itself as if I'm holding down the button cause of bad contacts maybe. But then why when I hit remote unlock open or open the hood does the horn instantly blow? I'm hoping its not a more complicated electrical issue.
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Originally Posted by MichiganJeepster
Cruise control switch replaced twice for same problem.
Ok so got the problem fixed this weekend and it was the cruise control buttons affecting the horn. They explained it to me that its all tied in together.
02-01-2013 08:06 PM
MichiganJeepster Cruise control switch replaced twice for same problem.
01-27-2013 04:29 PM
Lusus_Naturae For someone it was the clockspring, cruise control switch and radio knob - the only reason I can think of for the radio knob is they meant the radio control knob in the steering wheel itself, maybe its routed by the clockspring.
01-27-2013 05:05 AM
Bourget117
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Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
The clockspring is in your steering wheel, and handles the electrical connections btw steering wheel and steering column. A bad clockspring can cause all sorts of issues, usually with ESC warning lights, airbag lights, etc. I believe Chrysler extended the warranty on some MYs...
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Originally Posted by JoabsJks View Post
I say is the clockspring, make an Appointment, the dealer should warranty it, all my buttons went dead on my steering wheel and that was the issue, that it's a 300+instal part, 11JKS, 25000 miles
Ok so I googled the clockspring and now I know where it's located and what it does. I'm a little surprised it could be worn out already on a 2012 with 6000 miles but maybe just defective. Anything is possible I guess my last vehicle I bought new in 2003 was a Infiniti FX45, one of the first to hit the market, needed to have the entire rear hatch replaced after three days of owning it so anything is possible.
So here where I'm confused. If clockspring could be bad then horn stays on by itself as if I'm holding down the button cause of bad contacts maybe. But then why when I hit remote unlock open or open the hood does the horn instantly blow? I'm hoping its not a more complicated electrical issue.
01-27-2013 04:02 AM
JoabsJks
Re: Horn suddenly comes on

I say is the clockspring, make an Appointment, the dealer should warranty it, all my buttons went dead on my steering wheel and that was the issue, that it's a 300+instal part, 11JKS, 25000 miles
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