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07-14-2013 02:13 PM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by live_slow View Post
because the likelihood of death in an auto accident goes down significantly with a a functional airbag(s) and proper use of a seat belt.
Statistics are skewed by those industries to protect profits
07-14-2013 01:41 PM
live_slow
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Originally Posted by michiganadam View Post
Why would having an explosive device in the steering wheel be a good thing?
because the likelihood of death in an auto accident goes down significantly with a a functional airbag(s) and proper use of a seat belt.
07-14-2013 12:33 PM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by live_slow View Post
for teen drivers, the annual cost of insurance during the first few years is probably the most expensive part of the deal.

so OP should look into the insurance cost by model (YJ/TJ/JK) and factor that in if there's a big difference between them

if it were my kid, I'd want him in a TJ (or XJ) with driver's side airbag minimum
Why would having an explosive device in the steering wheel be a good thing?
07-13-2013 07:28 PM
live_slow for teen drivers, the annual cost of insurance during the first few years is probably the most expensive part of the deal.

so OP should look into the insurance cost by model (YJ/TJ/JK) and factor that in if there's a big difference between them

if it were my kid, I'd want him in a TJ (or XJ) with driver's side airbag minimum
07-13-2013 05:19 PM
marc1230 it's impressive that you want something and you plan forward on how to get it.
I would warn against spending too much. Jeeps have maintenance needs and like all vehicles will have repairs from time to time and insurance/gas costs. don't be a slave to your vehicle as opposed to thinking about your future.
don't buy anything on payments at this age - also , pretty sure that at 16 you can't legally sign such a contract. get an idea of what your running costs will be and make sure you can meet them without jeopardizing any future plans (college for example)
Jeeps are great fun, also a little less stable than some other means of transport, you don't want to roll your car the first week out of exuberance.

like already said - block heater not needed in southern Michigan, Hardtop good for quieter ride - but you're young, soft top or no top and loud music will be just fine!

If you can, get a summer job in a Jeep dealership washing cars or light shop work - then take your pick of trade-ins with expert advice and maybe employee discount, plus learning how to fix/maintain on your own.
07-13-2013 04:56 PM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by Moose5 View Post
By the time the OP is old enough to drive its possible that buying a used JK would be fairly cheap, like an 07 or 08. Unless your parents are gonna take the hit for the price of your car, i would keep the price range no higher than 10k. If you could find a YJ in good condition and mod the hell out of it, youll be the coolest kid in school :P
For all we know the 2016 wrangler redesign could ruin the wrangler forever and drive up the price of used JKs.



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Originally Posted by dfletemier View Post
Decided to definitely go used and mod it myself. Also goin to add a sweet sound system and new stereo. I can't wait I'm sure my brother would love to help me mod it, my dad might too but he doesn't have much patience lol
A sweet sound system is going to require a lot of planning for protecting it for water damage if you ever want to ford a river or leave the top down overnight. I'm getting ready to put a sound system in my jeep and am a bit tripped up over amp placement.


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Originally Posted by lolpetewtf View Post
Why does that look like a scam? looks legit to me. It will be long sold by the time you're ready to buy one. I'd wait it out and look at YJs instead.

Buy a 4x4 quad - it might hold you over
Anything on craigslist "might" be a scam. I replied to a house for rent ad once on craigslist and the guy told me hes in west africa, gave me a 65 digit phone number to call him, said he'd mail me the keys when i sent him first months rent......................... everything looked legit until i emailed him.....
That ads probably legit...

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Originally Posted by Neral22 View Post
Never lease.... Never.....
My dad leased a 2000 Ford F150 pickup truck, brand new, absolutely beautiful truck. Paid for an extra "disability coverage" that would pay the lease payments if he got disabled. Got disabled. Lease was paid for. Lease ended and he couldnt cough up the cash to buy it and couldntve gotten financing without a job, and they only wanted $3000 or something like that. So didn't get to keep it. If he had bought it and bought the same disability coverage it would have been paid for after a year and a half or so!

So yes, never lease.

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Originally Posted by Bmill View Post
This.
Just put the top up today
07-13-2013 02:57 PM
dfletemier Decided to definitely go used and mod it myself. Also goin to add a sweet sound system and new stereo. I can't wait I'm sure my brother would love to help me mod it, my dad might too but he doesn't have much patience lol
07-13-2013 10:31 AM
Moose5 By the time the OP is old enough to drive its possible that buying a used JK would be fairly cheap, like an 07 or 08. Unless your parents are gonna take the hit for the price of your car, i would keep the price range no higher than 10k. If you could find a YJ in good condition and mod the hell out of it, youll be the coolest kid in school :P
07-13-2013 10:30 AM
lolpetewtf This: Bestop 79139-01 - Bestop® Sailcloth Replace-a-top™ with Tinted Windows for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ - Quadratec

I think there are other brands/models that are cheaper.

PM Quadratec and he will tell you what they have.

Ask the TJ guys what they use, this is the JK forum (AKA newer Wranglers)
07-13-2013 10:26 AM
stephany
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Originally Posted by lolpetewtf View Post
IF you need full hardware included, and want tinted windows, with a top that goes all the way back get this: Bestop 54720-15 - Bestop® Supertop® NX Soft Top with Tinted Windows without Upper Doors for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ - Quadratec

If you want one that stays on, but all the windows come off, like a bikini, get this: Bestop 56820-15 - Bestop® Trektop NX for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ - Quadratec

Do you just need fabric? Because you can get that too.
The hardware I have is perfect, it's the one that goes all the way back but the fabric has a tear and isn't in great condition so I would only need the fabric
07-13-2013 10:12 AM
Miser
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Originally Posted by dfletemier View Post
what is your guys opinion on leasing a wrangler instead of buying?)
It's like renting a home, or a apartment, at the end of the month, all that you will have is a receipt! It's a bad idea, don't do it!

Look for a used Wrangler. craigslist is where I would start looking. Make sure that you have somebody that is Jeep smart to look it over with you, because many have been ongoing abused. Go to the Kelly Blue Book, so that you understand a fare price to pay.
Take your time and do your research carefully.
07-13-2013 09:49 AM
lolpetewtf IF you need full hardware included, and want tinted windows, with a top that goes all the way back get this: Bestop 54720-15 - Bestop® Supertop® NX Soft Top with Tinted Windows without Upper Doors for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ - Quadratec

If you want one that stays on, but all the windows come off, like a bikini, get this: Bestop 56820-15 - Bestop® Trektop NX for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ - Quadratec

Do you just need fabric? Because you can get that too.
07-13-2013 09:44 AM
stephany
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Originally Posted by lolpetewtf View Post

PM "Quadratec" on here. He will give you a great price on a TJ top.

Look here:

http://www.quadratec.com/category/Je.../105/index.htm
I don't know anything about parts for the jeep though, would you be able to tell me which top is best but not too pricy?? I need some advice
07-13-2013 09:36 AM
lolpetewtf
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Originally Posted by stephany View Post
Hey, no idea how this works and can't figure out how to start a thread. I just bought my first car, 2004 tj Sahara edition and I need a new soft top!! Can't find any, any suggestions??? ** help
PM "Quadratec" on here. He will give you a great price on a TJ top.

Look here:

http://www.quadratec.com/category/Je.../105/index.htm
07-13-2013 09:32 AM
stephany Hey, no idea how this works and can't figure out how to start a thread. I just bought my first car, 2004 tj Sahara edition and I need a new soft top!! Can't find any, any suggestions??? ** help
07-13-2013 09:26 AM
ky77 I agree first car def go used. My first car when I was 16 was brand new I narrowed down to (not sure if you remember these) a Eagle Talon and Wrangler. My dad told me get the jeep I went with Talon. Fast forward 1 yr later flipped my car over and I swore I could handle new car. Not doing anything dumb just cones down to time and experience behind a wheel. Like others have said there is a good chance with no experience that you may get into a fender bender or two or three lol. Save the brand new jeep for your second vehicle
07-13-2013 08:57 AM
lolpetewtf Why does that look like a scam? looks legit to me. It will be long sold by the time you're ready to buy one. I'd wait it out and look at YJs instead.

Buy a 4x4 quad - it might hold you over
07-13-2013 08:54 AM
dfletemier Could be a scam but looks like a good deal to me
07-13-2013 08:10 AM
cloverbagkid I got my 94 sahara as my first vehicle, I was looking for months before i saw the right one, had my dad drive me 2 hours to go look at it. I believe i got an excellent deal on it. Just keep looking for a good deal, do not rush anything. My brother used to buy his cars just because he wanted a car and he is now on vehicle #9 because he always rushed into buying a car and they were all problems, hes 23. As soon as i got a jeep a month later he got one, hes never been happier with a vehicle. Just don't rush anything
07-13-2013 08:08 AM
Aeschylus My first vehicle was a 1500$ used S10 pickup. I beat the hell out of that thing doing what teenagers do. I wanted a Jeep Wrangler badly, but they were just too expensive and not practical for the driving I was doing at the time.

In retrospect, it was the best thing I could have done.

Now that I have that Jeep, I have the time and money to do exactly what I want and pretty much when I want.
07-13-2013 07:49 AM
Bmill
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Originally Posted by michiganadam View Post
I wouldn't just because of the price. Most people wreck or otherwise tear up their first car, meaning a piece of crap beater is better. That said, I've been driving for 10 years and have never wrecked anything. Just takes a little intelligence and luck!

Even an old, beater of a jeep, will cost 3 times as much as a typical beater car. A YJ in decent visual shape with a shackle lift and 33s, and bent frame, is $8000 around here. Freakin insane. Anything else would be $1500 around here.

But...Jeeps are cool. I almost got a YJ for my first car. That was in 06, so the JK wasnt even out yet, and TJs were still too new for me to get ahold of. YJs were just kind of sort of in reach. I got an oldsmobile 88 instead.

You need to be really careful in the winter though. The 4x4 system gets such great traction in the winter that it'll make you over confident and then you wreck because you're going too fast to stop. It does not stop any better than any other vehicle. But it's just about impossible to get a jeep stuck on the road.

I would definitely not get a new one. I wouldn't even get a new one for myself right now. I bought an 08 back in february or so.

A hard top is NOT neccessary. The soft top can handle being covered with 2+ feet of snow just fine. Hell, mine was buried in snow before i test drove it, couldn't even see it LOL. 2 feet on the roof. just fine. However, you can't flex the windows very much at all in the winter. They'll break. It makes it really difficult to put anything in the back of the jeep.

You don't need an engine block heater unless it's a diesel. But it'd be nice to have.

Insurance is cheaper on jeeps than you would expect. They're very safe. You're going to be shafted on it though at your age.

You're going to regret not getting AC. The top is fairly difficult to raise and lower, and it's not worth the hassle for when you *know* its going to rain. And what if its hot and raining?

I've had my top down and doors off for 3 days right now though. Great weather. Watch the forecasts if you leave the top down.
This.
07-13-2013 07:33 AM
Sucker Punch
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Originally Posted by Neral22 View Post
Never lease.... Never.....
THIS!!
07-13-2013 07:21 AM
minnesota wrangler 2008 I waited almost twenty years to get a new buy used and have fun trust me
07-13-2013 07:09 AM
mhilbush
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Originally Posted by dfletemier View Post
my dad will pay insurance
That may be the case, but I bet he'll be a much happier dad if he's paying insurance on a used Jeep rather than a brand new one. Besides, maybe you can negotiate him paying for a few mods in place of the higher insurance he'll be forking out on a new Jeep.
07-12-2013 10:44 PM
Retr0zombie
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Originally Posted by starbrite View Post
everyone has already given you lots of great ideas. My suggestion would be to make sure you take your parents with you to check out or buy any vehicle. You don't want some slimy adult to take advantage of you just because you're a kid. Mom or dad will understand transferring a bill of sale, titles and all that legal stuff much better than a 16 year old. (no offense intended, honest! )
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07-12-2013 10:29 PM
Neral22 Never lease.... Never.....
07-12-2013 10:13 PM
dfletemier Thanks everyone for the suggestions, what is your guys opinion on leasing a wrangler instead of buying? I know i could afford it if and I'm the kind of kid that actually values his stuff so i would take excellent care of it and not be an idiot. Then when the lease is up i could get another wrangler or somethin else if i want, or not because I'll be a college student probably not even needing a car (i mean jeep lol)
07-12-2013 09:44 PM
RoadiJeff
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Originally Posted by dfletemier View Post
First car
If you get a Jeep you still won't have a first CAR, since a Jeep is not a car.

When I was about to get my license my first street legal motor vehicle was a $700 Yamaha 125cc enduro. My parents paid for some of it and I mowed a lot of grass to pay the rest.

Live within your means and don't get into big debt at such a young age. You'll have plenty of years to look forward to your first new motor vehicle. There are lots of used vehicles in the sub $5,000 range that are mechanically sound. Start there and work your way up a couple of years after that.
07-12-2013 08:58 PM
StarBrite Everyone has already given you lots of great ideas. My suggestion would be to make sure you take your parents with you to check out or buy any vehicle. You don't want some slimy adult to take advantage of you just because you're a kid. Mom or Dad will understand transferring a bill of sale, titles and all that legal stuff much better than a 16 year old. (No offense intended, honest! )
07-12-2013 07:55 PM
JEEPSnKICKS23 Hey Man Jeeps are awesome but a new one us a grip start off used they are good vehicles to begin with
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