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07-13-2013 09:52 AM
1rbotma
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Originally Posted by O_M_Jeep View Post
Details that determine if you get off the trail or not are not frivolous, neither is advice you give when you can't keep straight which axle shaft thread your in. It's not a matter of who is more right, it's not a matter of opinion when you say things like c-clips and bearing with front shafts. I was hoping to point out that you had no idea what you were talking about before the OP made the mistake of thinking your advise was based on knowledge. It's not a "catty fight"
The frivolous details that I am talking about is how your picking apart my words and throwing more into my mouth.

Also my apologies for being human and making a mistake. I suppose your the type of person that doesn't have a backspace button on your keyboard because your perfect? And if I must part take in this game of placing judgement on others... you must only use pens as well because pencils are for those who make mistakes.

My apologies. I'll try to be up to your standards. However I feel like I wont be there. Maybe I'll change my username to insufficient for you.
07-13-2013 09:48 AM
1rbotma
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
I think this says it all.



BTW, If you've never broken or bent an axle how are you supposed to tell us what the limits are? If that's the case, how do you know the stock axleshafts wouldn't have been just fine?
Hence the reason for my d44s.

Because I have broken stock axle shafts and spider gears. So knowing when to stop before I break something is called "knowing the limits".

I'm not retarded enough to break something on purpose just to say (insert gruffy man voice) "ughh I've broken chromoly axle shafts. I know my "limits" of my Jeep.
07-13-2013 09:46 AM
O_M_Jeep
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
Alloy USA and G2 are the only companies that I would recomend for upgrading your front shafts. They both use 4340 chromolly shafts. If you are looking for a complete kit with inner and outer shafts with the c clips, bearings and u joints. I can get you a kit for about $475ish. It would be a 27 spline Im assuming you need.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
And O M Jeep, 1botma wasn't talking about the c-clips like are used in a Dana 35, he was talking about the circle clips used to hold the front u-joints in place.
Unlike his copy/pasting, that is unedited.

And for the record I agree that Superior was a great product, we'll see where G2 goes in the near future.
07-13-2013 09:41 AM
Jerry Bransford It's too bad Superior Axle is gone, it's hard to know who to go to for axle shafts at this point. Right now, between G2, Alloy USA, and Yukon axle shafts, I'd personally likely go for G2 simply because Mac now heads it up. Mac used to be the VP at Superior, he helped Superior Axle become the top name in axle shafts is now the top guy at G2 after Superior Axle folded. Knowing Mac, I trust him to make & provide good quality axle shafts.

And O M Jeep, 1botma wasn't talking about the c-clips like are used in a Dana 35, he was talking about the circle clips used to hold the front u-joints in place. We know bearings aren't included for front shafts but they are for rear axles, I'd chalk that up to a minor brain fart of which everyone is guilty of at one time or another. I personally would simply assume he meant everything that is needed to install them is included.
07-13-2013 09:40 AM
O_M_Jeep
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
With that said I'm not making this thread into a catty fight about frivolous details. All this forum member was some advice. Not a thread about who is more right.
Details that determine if you get off the trail or not are not frivolous, neither is advice you give when you can't keep straight which axle shaft thread your in. It's not a matter of who is more right, it's not a matter of opinion when you say things like c-clips and bearing with front shafts. I was hoping to point out that you had no idea what you were talking about before the OP made the mistake of thinking your advise was based on knowledge. It's not a "catty fight"
07-13-2013 09:05 AM
Moabrubi
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
Guess I also forget when I said ten factory was a "lesser" shaft.
I think this says it all.

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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
I know G2 and Alloy USA have a 10 year warranty on their shafts and both are made of 4340 steel and other imported 4340 shafts probably do not go through as high of quality clearance.
BTW, If you've never broken or bent an axle how are you supposed to tell us what the limits are? If that's the case, how do you know the stock axleshafts wouldn't have been just fine?
07-13-2013 08:57 AM
1rbotma
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
Umm.... all the other "lesser"shafts you speak of such as Ten Factory are made in the same factory as the Alloy USA and G2. Where do you think G2s are made? They are made in India like almost every other aftermarket axle shaft.

Guess I also forget when I said ten factory was a "lesser" shaft.
07-13-2013 08:54 AM
1rbotma
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Originally Posted by O_M_Jeep View Post
Funny, that says $638. Not surprisingly.


You are clearly either a little confused or aren't sure what your talking about. First, front shafts don't have c-clips or bearings, rear shafts with c-clips don't have bearings. A front shaft kit is going to be nearly $650-$700, that's the standard, rear shaft kits are around $300.

I understand why you say you would reccommend G2 or Alloy USA, which ones do you run? what's in your front axle? whats in your rear axle? what axles are you running? what is the basis for your opinion?



Are G2 shafts imported? Are Alloy USA shafts imported? name one other company that imports alloy shafts for the dana 30 & dana 35 please. If your going to give advice I think you should know a little about what your advising. I personally run Alloy USA's front and rear, and I have been broken fronts and bent rears with 33"s, I have a pretty good idea where the limits are, I also know the best way to buy them and how to get the most out of a warranty (like a 12 month absolutely no questions asked warranty in addition to the 10 years, no need to meet the manufacturers standards for warranty for a year).
I guess I also forget where I said that G2 and Alloy were NOT imported. Stop throwing words into my mouth. And take a chill pill.

I run 35s with a G2 d44 front and rear. Obviously you don't know the limits if you have bent and broke shafts.

I haven't broke and bent any shafts.

With that said I'm not making this thread into a catty fight about frivolous details. All this forum member was some advice. Not a thread about who is more right.
07-13-2013 08:45 AM
1rbotma [QUOTE=O_M_Jeep;3957444]Funny, that says $638. Not surprisingly.


You are clearly either a little confused or aren't sure what your talking about. First, front shafts don't have c-clips or bearings, rear shafts with c-clips don't have bearings. A front shaft kit is going to be nearly $650-$700, that's the standard, rear shaft kits are around $300.


Maybe if you thoroughly read my posts you would have read that I said I confused this thread with another.

Read thoroughly first before you speak. Also I said I could get him a kit about that price. Did I say "Buy from that link I posted"? No.

Where does it say that ten factory/Midwest is chromoly?

"Original equipment front axle shafts are designed for original equipment tire sizes and moderate off road use. When you upgrade your Jeep or 4x4, you need to upgrade your axle shafts. TEN Factory designs our front axle shafts to maximize strength and durability, and back them with an exclusive TEN-Year Replacement Warranty."

Did you read that thoroughly? I don't see anything about 4340 chromoly
07-13-2013 08:33 AM
Moabrubi
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post

I know G2 and Alloy USA have a 10 year warranty on their shafts and both are made of 4340 steel and other imported 4340 shafts probably do not go through as high of quality clearance. I've heard of Randys ring and pinion that are supposed to be good.

I never said there's absolutely nothing else out that isn't good. I just said I would recommend those two.
Umm.... all the other "lesser"shafts you speak of such as Ten Factory are made in the same factory as the Alloy USA and G2. Where do you think G2s are made? They are made in India like almost every other aftermarket axle shaft.
07-13-2013 07:59 AM
O_M_Jeep Funny, that says $638. Not surprisingly.


You are clearly either a little confused or aren't sure what your talking about. First, front shafts don't have c-clips or bearings, rear shafts with c-clips don't have bearings. A front shaft kit is going to be nearly $650-$700, that's the standard, rear shaft kits are around $300.

I understand why you say you would reccommend G2 or Alloy USA, which ones do you run? what's in your front axle? whats in your rear axle? what axles are you running? what is the basis for your opinion?

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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
other imported 4340 shafts probably do not go through as high of quality clearance.
Are G2 shafts imported? Are Alloy USA shafts imported? name one other company that imports alloy shafts for the dana 30 & dana 35 please. If your going to give advice I think you should know a little about what your advising. I personally run Alloy USA's front and rear, and I have been broken fronts and bent rears with 33"s, I have a pretty good idea where the limits are, I also know the best way to buy them and how to get the most out of a warranty (like a 12 month absolutely no questions asked warranty in addition to the 10 years, no need to meet the manufacturers standards for warranty for a year).
07-13-2013 07:47 AM
1rbotma
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Originally Posted by O_M_Jeep View Post
You can get me a set of front shafts, 27 spline, kit (inner and outer) for around $475 that are either G2 or Alloy USA ??




Inner and outer shafts with c-clips? What axle are you talking about? and bearings included? You mean unit bearings that go with the outers and u-joints?

sorry. I was thinking of another kit that someone else was needing. The Alloy USA is going to cost more. Its the G2 I can get for about $475.

Heres a link to what I'm talking about:
G2 Axle and Gear Part G/298-2031-001 - Dana 30 Front Axle Kit#
07-13-2013 07:42 AM
1rbotma
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
Now why is that?
I know G2 and Alloy USA have a 10 year warranty on their shafts and both are made of 4340 steel and other imported 4340 shafts probably do not go through as high of quality clearance. I've heard of Randys ring and pinion that are supposed to be good.

I never said there's absolutely nothing else out that isn't good. I just said I would recommend those two.
07-12-2013 11:13 PM
O_M_Jeep
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
I can get you a kit for about $475ish. It would be a 27 spline Im assuming you need.
You can get me a set of front shafts, 27 spline, kit (inner and outer) for around $475 that are either G2 or Alloy USA ??


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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
a complete kit with inner and outer shafts with the c clips, bearings and u joints.
Inner and outer shafts with c-clips? What axle are you talking about? and bearings included? You mean unit bearings that go with the outers and u-joints?
07-12-2013 11:00 PM
Moabrubi
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
Alloy USA and G2 are the only companies that I would recomend for upgrading your front shafts.
Now why is that?
07-12-2013 10:39 PM
1rbotma Alloy USA and G2 are the only companies that I would recomend for upgrading your front shafts. They both use 4340 chromolly shafts. If you are looking for a complete kit with inner and outer shafts with the c clips, bearings and u joints. I can get you a kit for about $475ish. It would be a 27 spline Im assuming you need.
07-12-2013 04:30 AM
Westbrook Not that I can remember, but I also really haven't checked out many axle/axle shaft posts. Just want to make sure I'm getting something good.
07-11-2013 10:37 PM
1rbotma You've never heard of G2 before? Are you serious??? From what I've read about them they are a good company.
07-11-2013 06:59 PM
Westbrook
G2 Dana 30 Axle Shafts

I haven't heard of them before but that's what the shop that I deal with recommended to replace my stock Dana 30 shafts which are too warped to put new ujoints in (was in the middle of a ujoint swap when this came up).

I haven't heard of this company before so how do they stack up? Any advice or experience is appreciated.

Thanks

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