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09-19-2013 09:50 AM
Lynskey Woans is spot on. An aftermarket unit with BT will replace the Uconnect hands-free system. And you can retain all of the steering wheel functions with a PAC harness/SWI interface piece. That is what I used as well. I actually programmed the “phone icon” button on the wheel to be the “programmed channel selector" as I used up all of the other buttons on the backside of the wheel. Works perfectly.

I have not doubled back to the center console USB to determine the connector fix that others I believed have done. It converts the USB end (under the shifter area) to a “normal” USB end so you can then run that back to the new HU (if your HU has rear USB). My Pioneer unit has 2 USB at the rear and both currently run to my glove box. One for a USB stick and one for my iPod. I stream Pandora or other music from my iPhone through BT and don’t need a physical connection. That gives me 3 sources of music and no wires coming out of the HU. I may connect the center USB to clean up the 2nd wire in the glove box.
09-19-2013 08:29 AM
woansleftpeg
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Originally Posted by nitroz680 View Post
yea, right before you posted, I found a thread that has a link to one of those PAC modules. The thread says the USB port in the console gets eliminated along with the calling phone hands free feature...that sound true?
I believe that the USB in the console can be re-used, but as I didn't have one I couldn't tell you how. I just ran the USB from my new HU into the glove box, which is easy to do.

I'm not sure what you mean by "the calling phone hands free feature"? A new HU will support full handsfree - you'll need to run the new microphone because I don't believe you can re-use the factory mic, but again that's an easy thing to do. I presume you mean the button on the steering wheel that allows you to dial by voice and answer an incoming call is disabled, which I believe is correct; again, those features can easily be replicated on an after market HU, you'll just have to press a button on the screen rather than the steering wheel.
09-19-2013 12:24 AM
nitroz680
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Originally Posted by woansleftpeg View Post
Pretty much any reasonable head unit these days will incorporate bluetooth connectivity, and you can retain SWC with a PAC or Axxess protocol converter. Full harness to give you CANbus connectivity and SWC integration will run you about $120, a reasonable 6.1" double DIN HU another $300 or so. If you go single DIN (which will still give you quality sound, bluetooth and USB, just not the big touchscreen or some of the more funky phone integration tools like Pandora, Mirrorlink etc) you're looking at more like $150-$180.
yea, right before you posted, I found a thread that has a link to one of those PAC modules. The thread says the USB port in the console gets eliminated along with the calling phone hands free feature...that sound true?
09-18-2013 10:56 PM
woansleftpeg
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Originally Posted by nitroz680 View Post
I like the Uconnect system's features (bluetooth phone calls etc., steering wheel controls) too much to part with the OEM head unit. You know of any after market head units that allow me to retain those features?
Pretty much any reasonable head unit these days will incorporate bluetooth connectivity, and you can retain SWC with a PAC or Axxess protocol converter. Full harness to give you CANbus connectivity and SWC integration will run you about $120, a reasonable 6.1" double DIN HU another $300 or so. If you go single DIN (which will still give you quality sound, bluetooth and USB, just not the big touchscreen or some of the more funky phone integration tools like Pandora, Mirrorlink etc) you're looking at more like $150-$180.
09-18-2013 10:01 PM
nitroz680 I like the Uconnect system's features (bluetooth phone calls etc., steering wheel controls) too much to part with the OEM head unit. You know of any after market head units that allow me to retain those features?
09-18-2013 09:52 PM
riptide09 Sorry for the absence! Ive been really busy. I mounted a JL Slash 300/4v2 under the right passenger seat just secured to the carpet.

Im with woan on this one though man you definitely want an amp and new headunit. Both are essential to the SQ
08-23-2013 04:56 PM
nitroz680 nevermind, when i read further through the thread looks like you just mounted right into the plastic lip in the soundbar. Also, if you ordered the Metra adapters, it says they dont fit speakers that have a cut out diameter of greater than 5.125", and the JL's have about 5.5"

womp womp
08-23-2013 04:48 PM
nitroz680
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Originally Posted by riptide09 View Post
All im waiting on now is the speaker adapters from crutchfield so I can install the JL C2-650's!
Yo Rip, can you link me to the speaker adapters you bought?

Thanks!
08-16-2013 05:33 PM
woansleftpeg
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Originally Posted by HzrInAz View Post
All the fit guides I see say the JL C2-650X's wont fit a 2012 Wrangler unlimited. Is this correct?
By "all the fit guides" I presume you mean Crutchfield's which is, as per usual, wrong. You may need a ring mount on the adapter to fit it in the soundbar and you won't be able to re-fit the factory covers. I don't see any reason why it won't fit in the dash pods.
08-16-2013 04:18 PM
HzrInAz All the fit guides I see say the JL C2-650X's wont fit a 2012 Wrangler unlimited. Is this correct?
08-16-2013 03:18 PM
nitroz680
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Originally Posted by riptide09 View Post
Everything is installed, sounds amazing, and im happy to be finished with it. I never want to install audio again.....ever.
Hey Rip, where'd you mount your amp if you dont mind me asking? Woans has got me thinking about amping up the system...
08-15-2013 05:31 PM
nitroz680
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Originally Posted by woansleftpeg View Post
There is no wrong, it's just that your already low output head unit is designed to operate as a 2 ohm output drive. With double the impedance at the speakers you're not going to get those speakers anywhere near their optimal operating capability without an amplifier, they will be woefully underpowered. They might be a little clearer than the stock units but they'll be much quieter.

You're really not getting any value from those speakers without an amp. Speakers aren't just a case of more power+more expense=louder and better. ICE is about matched components to achieve optimum return.
ok fair point, I dont know why, i should have known better, but i thought for some reason you were about to tell me i was going to blow out my headunit, and then i was going to respectfully disagree with you, mumbling under my breath how you were an idiot. thankfully, we are not at that point, and i do tend to agree with you.

I do not currently have the means (read: money) to amplify my system, so this is an intermediate step, and amplification is on the horizon, especially because i like to listen to my music super loud.

I will see how these bad boys sound without an amp and if they arent loud enough well then i know what im going to need to do!
08-15-2013 03:47 PM
woansleftpeg There is no wrong, it's just that your already low output head unit is designed to operate as a 2 ohm output drive. With double the impedance at the speakers you're not going to get those speakers anywhere near their optimal operating capability without an amplifier, they will be woefully underpowered. They might be a little clearer than the stock units but they'll be much quieter.

You're really not getting any value from those speakers without an amp. Speakers aren't just a case of more power+more expense=louder and better. ICE is about matched components to achieve optimum return.
08-15-2013 03:32 PM
nitroz680 i have a feeling that no matter how i answer this, im already wrong...so why dont you just go ahead and tell me why im wrong up front
08-15-2013 03:29 PM
woansleftpeg I just read back a bit on this thread. Are you seriously planning to put $300+ worth of speakers that run over 100W RMS at 4 ohm impedance into your Jeep and then connect them directly to the stock head unit?
08-15-2013 02:42 PM
nitroz680 just ordered 1 per speaker, so a total of 4 adapters...i'm lookin forward to this install
08-15-2013 02:38 PM
woansleftpeg Get the adapters. It's cleaner, it allows you to return to stock when you sell the Jeep (you'll never get the value back for your JLs in a sale or trade), and it avoids the risk of the wires being a little too short after you cut off the plug.
08-15-2013 02:35 PM
nitroz680 Hey all!

Just ordered my C2-650 and C2-650X speaker sets! Can't wait for them to arrive. Did you guys decide to order the speaker wire adapter to keep everything fresh or did you just go with cutting the stock wires?

Thanks!
08-09-2013 08:33 AM
riptide09
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Originally Posted by kass145 View Post
so i'm new to this forum but why is every jeep owner are all on jl audios tip? they are good speakers. just noticing that there are a lot of ppl running jl audio any reason why? i installed what i had left over from my last car so its focal krx165 3way components up front and rainbow kx165 speakers in the soundbar with 2 12 Boston acoustic pro series subs zapco 2 ch amp and mcintosh 4ch.
Actually the majority of Jeep owners that upgrade their speakers usually get Polks or Kickers....ive heard about them way more than JL.
08-09-2013 07:55 AM
nitroz680 I've used JL Audio products in both of my previous vehicles with great success. That's why I am continuing to use their stuff....

Also, you're on a thread called "JL setup in the new JK".....makes sense we're talking about JL Audio products :P
08-09-2013 04:01 AM
kass145 so i'm new to this forum but why is every jeep owner are all on jl audios tip? they are good speakers. just noticing that there are a lot of ppl running jl audio any reason why? i installed what i had left over from my last car so its focal krx165 3way components up front and rainbow kx165 speakers in the soundbar with 2 12 Boston acoustic pro series subs zapco 2 ch amp and mcintosh 4ch.
08-08-2013 09:13 AM
riptide09
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Originally Posted by woansleftpeg View Post
Before you do, go to a car audio place and have a listen to Focal's Access range. I was playing with some the other day and they were immensely good.
I wanted to check those out before i got mine but the shop didnt have them :/
08-08-2013 08:57 AM
woansleftpeg Before you do, go to a car audio place and have a listen to Focal's Access range. I was playing with some the other day and they were immensely good.
08-08-2013 08:37 AM
riptide09 Sounds like a good idea. I got my C2's from woofers etc pretty cheap and got the jl slash 300/4v2 off ebay. Sounds great!
08-08-2013 08:01 AM
nitroz680 Rip and Woans...

Thanks for the feedback, come to think of it, I had entry level JL 6x8's in my old Mazda B4000 and they pounded, so you're right, probably no need to go all the way up to the C5's.

I'll do the C2's, component set in the dash and the coax in the soundbar.

Bamy...are you selling the wiring kit with your sub and amp? I'll PM you.
08-07-2013 08:28 PM
riptide09
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Originally Posted by nitroz680 View Post
Thinking about installing a JL audio C5-650X component set up front...should be no problem, right?

I checked out the woofer's physical dimensions and they are approximately equal to those of the C2's...which we all know fit.
I really couldnt imagine the C5's being worth the substantial extra amount of money over the C2's.

If you decide to go with them however let us know how it goes and the C5's will install just fine. Just make sure you get the C5-650 set for the front, not the C5-650X
08-07-2013 07:15 PM
st1264
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Originally Posted by woansleftpeg View Post
It's a 6.5" speaker so it should be fine, but the 650X is a coaxial. The 650 is the component set up, don't order the wrong thing. Depth isn't an issue in the front pods.

Be aware they're not worth the money, though. You'll get speakers every bit as good for half the price, and in a Jeep people won't even be able to see the evidence of your extravagance.
+1. This has been my experience with jl full range speakers. Subs & amps are top rate but coaxial and component speakers are not worth the premium in my opinion. Good stuff but other stuff I'd install instead.
08-07-2013 05:47 PM
pants on head well I answered my earlier question. my custom downfiring 2-10 jl closed box from my tj is a tight fit behind the back seat in my 2dr but it fits. now to get it hooked up.
08-07-2013 04:14 PM
Bamyrick226 If there is any interest I took out my jl audio w3 micro sub and jl audio 300/1 amp. Fits perfect behind the seat and sounds great with a hardtop. Not looking for much dough either.
08-07-2013 03:55 PM
woansleftpeg It's a 6.5" speaker so it should be fine, but the 650X is a coaxial. The 650 is the component set up, don't order the wrong thing. Depth isn't an issue in the front pods.

Be aware they're not worth the money, though. You'll get speakers every bit as good for half the price, and in a Jeep people won't even be able to see the evidence of your extravagance.
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