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07-18-2013 11:20 PM
AngelJK
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Originally Posted by mcgee10 View Post
They are charging you $58.00 each just to change them, you bought the plugs. Did they have a gun to your head? You need to get out of there quick. $350.00 to change 6 plugs is some kind of a crime.
Upon hearing "$350," I asked for my keys and told them that I needed to leave.
07-17-2013 04:04 PM
mcgee10 They are charging you $58.00 each just to change them, you bought the plugs. Did they have a gun to your head? You need to get out of there quick. $350.00 to change 6 plugs is some kind of a crime.
07-17-2013 03:20 PM
DFW6ER
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Originally Posted by Little Joe View Post
Changing plugs aren't hard but let the engine cool down all the way. It is easy to strip the threads on aluminum heads when they are the least bit warm. Once you strip those threads and it gets real expensive. Hard on the hands next to the manifold too! Find a spark plug buddy (experience) on the first set and noooo problem!
Yup, doing a helicoil to replace stripped threads isn't fun.
I always use a little high-temp antiseize on my plug threads to make future extractions easy...dissimilar metals like to corrode
07-17-2013 03:10 PM
Martin10
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Originally Posted by AngelJK View Post
I purchased the Double Platinums and installed them myself last night. It took me a little under an hour. Check engine light went away, shuddering is now obsolete, and I have a remaining $325 in my pocket for recreational activites (hookers).
Good job mate. That price was way out of line.
07-17-2013 03:01 PM
Little Joe Changing plugs aren't hard but let the engine cool down all the way. It is easy to strip the threads on aluminum heads when they are the least bit warm. Once you strip those threads and it gets real expensive. Hard on the hands next to the manifold too! Find a spark plug buddy (experience) on the first set and noooo problem!
07-17-2013 02:28 PM
AngelJK
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Originally Posted by JenyGirl View Post
I go to the stealership :-/
I'm sorry.
07-17-2013 02:26 PM
AngelJK I purchased the Double Platinums and installed them myself last night. It took me a little under an hour. Check engine light went away, shuddering is now obsolete, and I have a remaining $325 in my pocket for recreational activites (hookers).
07-17-2013 02:22 PM
AngelJK
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Originally Posted by David M View Post
I guess that's the high price you pay for plugs, when you're from a place called "Sparks".

It's just a good thing the OP's not from Enginerebuildville.
I knew it
07-17-2013 02:14 PM
Heat Miser
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Originally Posted by DFW6ER View Post
^THIS! Plugs should be good for at least 50K miles at a minimum. Check your owner's manual to see when it recommends replacing plugs. You can also just pull one of the easy-to-reach plugs not under the IM to check for premature wear or others signs of an abnormally running engine (too hot, too lean, too rich, etc.)
My 2011 has about 27,000 miles and it needed plugs. When I removed the plugs, all had the same burn coloration on the tips, so I know the engine if fine, but when removing the center plug on the exhaust side, the white part of the plug crumbled into many little pieces. While manufacturers say plugs may be good for 50,000 miles, I rarely go beyond 20,000 miles. For me, it's cheap insurance.
07-17-2013 02:09 PM
Ruby Tuesday
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Originally Posted by Lusus_Naturae
You might want to check some local shops too. Nothing wrong with the dealership doing it, they will warranty their work at least, but plugs aren't too hard to do usually, just hope you don't have one that's stuck.
Butt plugs aren't to hard to do?

Giggaty
07-17-2013 01:49 PM
DFW6ER
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Originally Posted by kik View Post
How many miles on your 11? I would be surprised if you need plugs already. These engines aren't performance engines. Standard parts actually are fine, but you might feel more comfortable with upgrades, your choice. Dealerships are guided by set hourly labor rates and the "book" as far as time. It's usually less expensive at a reputable local shop if you don't have the tools or want to attempt doing it yourself. Now you know how they are able to give away all those free or cheap oil changes.

^THIS! Plugs should be good for at least 50K miles at a minimum. Check your owner's manual to see when it recommends replacing plugs. You can also just pull one of the easy-to-reach plugs not under the IM to check for premature wear or others signs of an abnormally running engine (too hot, too lean, too rich, etc.)
07-17-2013 01:31 PM
kik How many miles on your 11? I would be surprised if you need plugs already. These engines aren't performance engines. Standard parts actually are fine, but you might feel more comfortable with upgrades, your choice. Dealerships are guided by set hourly labor rates and the "book" as far as time. It's usually less expensive at a reputable local shop if you don't have the tools or want to attempt doing it yourself. Now you know how they are able to give away all those free or cheap oil changes.
07-17-2013 01:18 PM
Tweak
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Originally Posted by Rtone1583 View Post
Nope. They're double platinum.
OMG that's twice the platinum mine came with!

for real though, its a jeep. the best part is working on it yourself
07-17-2013 10:26 AM
WatchThis!
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Originally Posted by COLOUJK View Post



Also I hate when people call it the stealerhip. They are simply telling you what can be done to your vehicle to make it in the best possible shape. You dont have to do anything that they say. Use your own knowledge to know what should be done by them.
I had to have some warranty work done and a my fuel tank skid had to be droped to do it. They called me and said it was going to be a 450 buck charge to do it. I drove up there and droped it in less then 10 minutes and took me 15 minutes to put it back on by myself in the parking lot when they were finished. Stealership fits just right in my book.
07-17-2013 06:27 AM
Chuck59 Please just do it yourself. It is just soooo soooo easy. If your not mechanically inclined, this is a great place to start and learn! If you need a few tools, go get them. New plugs and and a socket set would cost way less than $300 bucks and then you still the tools and the pride that you did it yourself.

I changed my plugs a couple of weekends ago and went from 19.7 average mile per gallon to 21.2 mpg.
07-17-2013 05:49 AM
Klinkenstein
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Originally Posted by COLOUJK View Post

You are not wrong in any way by doing this. They will keep your jeep in the best shape possible by doing this. It might just cost you a little more (shop rates can be higher at dealerships than other shops).
/cough/union... Eh hem sorry what
07-17-2013 01:30 AM
Rtone1583
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Originally Posted by wmwhitey View Post
For 350 the plugs must be Gold
Nope. They're double platinum.
07-17-2013 01:19 AM
wmwhitey For 350 the plugs must be Gold
07-17-2013 01:17 AM
Lusus_Naturae You might want to check some local shops too. Nothing wrong with the dealership doing it, they will warranty their work at least, but plugs aren't too hard to do usually, just hope you don't have one that's stuck.
07-17-2013 01:16 AM
Blastek
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Originally Posted by COLOUJK View Post
You are not wrong in any way by doing this. They will keep your jeep in the best shape possible by doing this. It might just cost you a little more (shop rates can be higher at dealerships than other shops).
From the dealership experiences I have had, they break and loose stuff more than a decent service shop.
07-17-2013 01:04 AM
COLOUJK
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Originally Posted by JenyGirl View Post
I go to the stealership :-/
You are not wrong in any way by doing this. They will keep your jeep in the best shape possible by doing this. It might just cost you a little more (shop rates can be higher at dealerships than other shops).
07-17-2013 01:00 AM
JenyGirl
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Originally Posted by COLOUJK View Post

ive removed the plugs on a JK in 15 minutes on the side of a trail. Its really not that hard to do if you have a rachet extension and half a brain. Do it yourself and save a crap ton of money. Also all you need to buy in terms of plugs is the stock plugs. The "double platinum" will not help you at all.

Also I hate when people call it the stealerhip. They are simply telling you what can be done to your vehicle to make it in the best possible shape. You dont have to do anything that they say. Use your own knowledge to know what should be done by them.
I go to the stealership :-/
07-17-2013 12:58 AM
JenyGirl
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Originally Posted by ohioviper View Post
Wow bend over and grab some Vaseline.Its a 30 minute job.

http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?7...Wires-Write-Up
Lmmhboooooo
07-17-2013 12:48 AM
COLOUJK
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Originally Posted by AngelJK View Post
Local stealership service dept. is charging me a kayak to change my spark plugs! I have never had to change the plugs on this tank since I just bought it, however, by the looks of it, I am unable to locate the plugs on the passenger side.. scary. I purchased the double platinum plugs but is this task too difficult?
ive removed the plugs on a JK in 15 minutes on the side of a trail. Its really not that hard to do if you have a rachet extension and half a brain. Do it yourself and save a crap ton of money. Also all you need to buy in terms of plugs is the stock plugs. The "double platinum" will not help you at all.

Also I hate when people call it the stealerhip. They are simply telling you what can be done to your vehicle to make it in the best possible shape. You dont have to do anything that they say. Use your own knowledge to know what should be done by them.
07-16-2013 11:59 PM
David M
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Originally Posted by AngelJK View Post
Local stealership service dept. is charging me a kayak to change my spark plugs! I have never had to change the plugs on this tank since I just bought it, however, by the looks of it, I am unable to locate the plugs on the passenger side.. scary. I purchased the double platinum plugs but is this task too difficult?
I guess that's the high price you pay for plugs, when you're from a place called "Sparks".

It's just a good thing the OP's not from Enginerebuildville.
07-16-2013 11:54 PM
corvallisbattery You wouldn't pay $350 for someone to swap a motor for you? You are either a shop owner.. or seriously undereducated on what goes into a job of that size or.. more importantly..how much a COMPETENT tech costs to employ/ outside hire

Thank you traitor08.. now I know who to never listen to!
07-16-2013 11:24 PM
WatchThis!
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Originally Posted by traitor08 View Post
I wouldn't pay someone $350 to swap my motor, obviously not including price of motor.
If I didn't have access to a shop and had to do it in my yard in the summer time heat I would gladly pay 350 buck for a motor swap.
07-16-2013 11:21 PM
traitor08 I wouldn't pay someone $350 to swap my motor, obviously not including price of motor.
07-16-2013 11:17 PM
Heat Miser $350 to change the plugs? I have a 2011 also and changed the plugs for the first time this weekend. I figured I saved about $100 or so doing it myself, not $300+.

It's really not that bad. Get a decent socket wrench (with an elbow), a couple of extensions, and a bit if patience. There's a great thread in here that details the tools needed and has photos. It's easy, except the plugs on the intake side are a bitch. If I were you, I'd start there.

Disconnect the hose going to the air box (at the air box), and move it out of the way. The clamps for the plug wires are sleeved onto two bolts: one in the middle of the engine and one at the rear. Slide them off the bolts and you should have access to the middle and rear plug in the passenger side.

The write-up with photos is better than my description, so search for it. It's well worth your time. Good luck.
07-16-2013 11:11 PM
ohioviper Wow bend over and grab some Vaseline.Its a 30 minute job.

http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?7...Wires-Write-Up
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