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07-21-2013 12:17 PM
Rubicondon53
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Originally Posted by 1jeeplvr View Post
F ake J eep
No, not a Fake Jeep,, I owned a 76 FJ40 half a lifetime ago.. The 04 rubicon I have owned since new, is the first jeep that is a stronger, better built vehicle than the FJ 40 was.. Not my opinion, just the bare bones fact of the matter. Do a bit of research about the FJ40 and how it compares to all jeeps until the Rubicons came into production... To the OP, you might be able to find a restored one for around 20k. Look for years 75 or 76. After 76 they have cats.. Before 74 or so, (my memory may be off) they had a vacuum assist 4wd engagement. The later models have the lever we all have come to love... Nonetheless, if you don't pay around 20 k for one, count on dumping that much money into a non-restored one... They are really cool vehicles and if I had the time and money I'd find one to restore if only for the novelty of owning one...
07-21-2013 12:03 PM
s14sh3r An old FJ is about the same as a Jeep. It'll only be as good as the Chevy/Ford/whatever parts you put on it

The best part about having something there's not a lot of aftermarket for is at least you won't have a bolt on queen. Learn to weld and fab your own shit.
07-21-2013 11:57 AM
1jeeplvr F ake J eep
07-21-2013 11:56 AM
1jeeplvr If you wheel it than you will have more problems with the FJ.And there more expensive to fix.I dont think it gets any easier to repair a TJ.
07-21-2013 10:37 AM
BamaRolln
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Originally Posted by jefferyc22 View Post
My TJ has a tired engine,splitting door and a bad syncro going into 2nd. It just seems like these things are $ pits with no chance of getting your money back. I paid $4k for the TJ. I put a Zone 4.25 with $400 in rubber on it. I assume I can pretty easily get $7k out of it?
Besides being a better looking machine and ergonomic issues why keep the TJ when an OLD FJ just GAINS value?
If you have a jeep that is causing more problems than you care to deal with and you want an old FJ, by all means do it. You can always sell it and buy another jeep if you change your mind later.

But the rest of the comments don't sound logical to me. You said they are money pits with no chance to get your money back and you think it is worth 3k more than you paid for it.

I don't see any reason why the old FJ would be less of a money pit than any well maintained TJ. Your TJ may be a money pit but I've had two and they only needed routine maintenance like any used 4x4 vehicle would.
07-21-2013 09:33 AM
dawj
investment?

Autos are far from and investment unless you pay $$$$ to begin with and even then its high risk. insurance, inspections, reg., wear and tear, maint. storage etc..... Even a brand new car is a money pit!! the confusion is I have a new car its so great and reliable...WRONG you have a freakin payment that's reliable? Unless you dump 4 or 500.00 a month in an old car its not a money pit. The FJ is OLD all old things need TLC (including us lol) In my opinion a new car is ok for about 7 years then things seem to come in 3's. I imagine you will be paying a few grand on top of selling your jeep for the FJ invest that few grand in your jeep and love it
07-21-2013 07:17 AM
DermJeep Having driven and ridden in plenty of old FJ's- and making a recent TJ acquisition- I'm going Jeep hands down. It's sturdy enough to do almost anything, with enough modern convenience. All the comments about parts availability are true. When you break something on your FJ, do you really think you're going to walk into Advance Auto in BFE and find exactly what you need?

If you live in the real world and work for a living, cars can be either 1) an investment in experiences and happiness, or 2) a financial investment. But, you can never have both.
07-21-2013 03:05 AM
chazman Just sold my '68 Bronco and went All Jeep. I still love the Broncos, but unless you do all your on fab work and have a ton of money, they just aren't great dependable daily drivers. Parts are a pain to get sometimes too. The reason I like the Jeep, is because parts are EVERYWHERE . And if I screw it up, it isn't a limited number of a classic that can't really be replaced. If I win the lotto, I will have another stable of horses, but for me now....it's a Jeep thing
07-21-2013 12:55 AM
Samuel5090 Having had 3 early Broncos- and spending a LOT of time in a FJ-the TJ is a much nicer vehicle to spend time in. Better ride- much quieter-Superior off road capability (mines a Rubicon)
07-20-2013 11:44 PM
Derp You you want to sell one money pit for an older most likely even less reliable money pit. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. Anything that leaves payment will cost money. 4X4's in particular, it's always something. All you're doing is jumping from one frying pan into the other. Sony sell the jeep and buy an fj in hopes of alleviating your current issue. Buy it because you want an fj. If you're doing it because of other lost causes I stated above you'll be even less happy when the fj breaks and you're in the same boat going I would've rather fixed the jeep.

Nick
07-20-2013 11:15 PM
JeepGuy425
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Originally Posted by Powder Monkey View Post
you'd be trading one set of problems for a more expensive set
^^^ He's right, and you will miss it. Nothing replaces a Jeep.
07-20-2013 11:03 PM
SurfKaster I'm a fan of the old FJs myself, but I'd wager you'd be trading one set of problems for a more expensive set. They're sweet, but 7k most likely won't buy a solid DD unless you'e looking for a driveable project. Well kept/restored FJs hang out in the Defender price range.
07-20-2013 02:15 PM
s14sh3r Driveability is subjective. My grandparents drove to California in a Model A.
I've never owned an FJ, but if it's anything like my old Bronco, it'll definitely have its quirks. The old Bronco was a pain in the butt, but the thing was a tank. I don't regret it one bit.

I'd suggest educating yourself about FJ's. Check out forums, learn what common problems to look for. As long as it was mechanically sound, I'd be perfectly happy driving one. I do know one thing you'll have to get used to, if you buy it. People will call it a Jeep. People called my Bronco a Jeep. Correct em or just grumble under your breath.
07-20-2013 02:06 PM
jefferyc22 I assume the drivability of the FJ is pretty bad compared to a TJ or even a YJ?
For those that don't know I'm talking about the OLD FJ like in the picture below not the nasty ugly new version.
07-20-2013 01:58 PM
Duke-TJ I think OLD FJs are cool, but Jeeps have an almost endless supply of replacement/modification parts, and probably alway will. I don't plan on ever getting rid of my TJ or my CJ, mostly because I know there'll always be parts to fix/upgrade them if I need them. Good luck with your decision. I say keep the Jeep!
07-20-2013 01:57 PM
s14sh3r If you want to invest, buy a collectable car and keep it put up out of the elements, never drive it and wait for it to appreciate in value. With very few exceptions, you never get back what you put into a vehicle.

If you want an old FJ, go for it. I think they're neat old rigs and wouldn't mind owning one. I've owned an early Bronco and loved that thing. My dad has an old Scout with halfcab sitting in a field. I wouldn't mind messing around with it someday.

The point is, vehicles are money pits. Period. It'll be a love/hate thing even if it's your favorite car in the world. Buy what makes you happy. When you get tired of it, sell it and move on. That's what a true auto enthusiast does. It's sort of like a disease

If you're having trouble coming to terms with your "disease" and trying to justify the amount of money you spend, I can't help you with that. The best advice I have is anything you do to a vehicle, you do it for you. You do it because you want to. Simple as that. Non-diseased people will never understand, so you don't even try to make them understand. Let them shake their heads at our silliness. Poor bastards
07-20-2013 01:43 PM
Steve2012 Seems like it has increased it's value also??
07-20-2013 01:30 PM
Michigunman
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Originally Posted by jefferyc22 View Post
My TJ has a tired engine,splitting door and a bad syncro going into 2nd. It just seems like these things are $ pits with no chance of getting your money back. I paid $4k for the TJ. I put a Zone 4.25 with $400 in rubber on it. I assume I can pretty easily get $7k out of it?
Besides being a better looking machine and ergonomic issues why keep the TJ when an OLD FJ just GAINS value?

Uhm either I'm confused or you are.
07-20-2013 01:25 PM
jefferyc22
Thinking about selling my TJ to buy an FJ

My TJ has a tired engine,splitting door and a bad syncro going into 2nd. It just seems like these things are $ pits with no chance of getting your money back. I paid $4k for the TJ. I put a Zone 4.25 with $400 in rubber on it. I assume I can pretty easily get $7k out of it?
Besides being a better looking machine and ergonomic issues why keep the TJ when an OLD FJ just GAINS value?


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