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08-20-2013 11:29 PM
TheDesertOutlaw I went from this...




to this...






Now, the Jeep doesn't rub tires every chance it gets.



From a distance, the fender trim job isn't very noticeable.



08-20-2013 10:47 AM
gsellars I plan on upgrading shocks too. I have the coils and shocks to flex further now but the CAs aren't allowing it without binding the mounts.
08-20-2013 10:30 AM
Imped
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I think I'll gain some flex with the MCs goin from fixed lowers without JJ and stock uppers. I have seen jeeps with my lift flex way more than mine by adding the MCs and trimming flares or switching to MCs arched tube fenders....
OK, let's break things down.

What is "flex"? It's travel, articulation, whatever you want to call it. Your axle cannot go higher than the bump stops allow and it can't go lower than your shocks allow. In many cases, the LCA's against the back of the coil buckets/shock bracket will prevent any further downward travel.

When it comes to articulation, standard Clevite bushings and other non-flexible ends don't do very well. But if you put your Jeep in a situation in which the axle is being forced up on one end with the full weight of the Jeep acting on it, those bushings aren't gonna limit you. They'll be pushed past their operating limit, sure. But they aren't going to be able to interfere with the forces at hand.

Those arms will end your days of wearing out bushings or damaging mounts. But unless you switch to a longer spring and longer shocks, you won't be gaining any travel. This is a widely misunderstood concept across the entire modified Jeep scene.

If you want to gain travel, you need to determine full bump, run the longest coil you can, pick shocks that agree with the coil length, and set up the shock mounts to optimize the travel. And if you're sticking with stock CA mounts, there's no point in trying to push past 12" of travel. Not gonna work.
08-20-2013 10:08 AM
gsellars I think I'll gain some flex with the MCs goin from fixed lowers without JJ and stock uppers. I have seen jeeps with my lift flex way more than mine by adding the MCs and trimming flares or switching to MCs arched tube fenders....
08-20-2013 09:50 AM
Imped Nope, but I've seen pocket flares swapped in favor of less tacky, more functional ones.

Your shocks and bump stops define the "flex" (travel) of your Jeep. The control arms won't gain you anything, nor will new flares. You just won't have to deal with your suspension travel wearing out bushings (or being hard on the mounts) and the tires hitting the flares.
08-20-2013 09:46 AM
gsellars Want to add metalcloak CAs but they will cause my tires to rip off the pocket flares...not sure what to do. Anyone ever seen trimmed pocket flares?
08-16-2013 06:23 PM
gsellars I'm not sure...but with little flex on my ditch I only have 1/2" from hitting my rear flare.
08-16-2013 05:48 AM
Wesboy My tires stick out past the 6" pocket flares too (just).
My DC-2 rims have 3.65" BS - I didn't think there were rims that stuck out further than that.

When I'm flexing, I get some slight tire rub on the flares (mainly the rear) but very slightly on the front too - but it doesn't stop the tires stuffing themselves into the fenders.

EDIT: Just noticed - you have 4" lift. That could be the difference, I don't have as much lift as yours.
08-16-2013 03:42 AM
gsellars My wheels and tires stick out past the 6" flares so the front and rear hit while flexing
08-11-2013 12:07 AM
Wesboy Like CarolinaBound said, your pocket flares won't stop flex - but your fenders will.
If you are not bumpstopped correctly (like me in this pic) it's your fenders that stop wheel travel.
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08-10-2013 08:27 PM
CarolinaBound The flares won't be the big reason you're losing flex. Check your bumpstops and shocks to see if those 2-3" you think are avaible really are w/o interferences/ bottoming out shocks.

But from a risk/reward kinda standpoint when's the last time you got stuck because you needed 2" of articulation?
08-10-2013 07:01 PM
gsellars bump
07-25-2013 01:23 AM
gsellars
Trimmed Pocket Flares

I bought my jeep and it had 6" pocket flares on it. Its causing a 2-3" loss of Flex. Has anyone trimmed them or seen any trimmed?

Post pics or links plz


currently running 4" suspension lift with 33s

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